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CITY OF
NDOVE
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING -NOVEMBER 17, 2005
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chairman Jim Lindahl on November 17, 2005, 7:06 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present:
Dan Masloski, Dave Blackstad, Chairman Jim Lindahl,
Ernest Bedor, Wendy Albee, and Devon Walton (arrived at
7:25 p.m.)
Commissioners Absent:
Meg Dudgeon
Also Present:
Parks Coordinator, Todd Haas
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There were no comments at this time.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Masloski, seconded by Commissioner Bedor, to approve the
September 1, 2005 Park Commission minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 5-ayes,
O-nays, 2-absent (Dudgeon and Walton) vote.
APPROVAL OF REVISED AGENDA
Parks Coordinator Haas stated that he would like to add the 2006 fee schedule to the
meeting agenda.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Masloski, to add
discussion of the 2006 fee schedule to the agenda. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-
absent (Dudgeon and Walton) vote.
CONSIDER 2006 TOURNAMENT APPLICATION FORM/NORTH METRO
SOCCER ASSOCIATION
Paul Bratland, Tournament Director for the North Metro Soccer Association indicated
J that the tournament would be held June 17-19,2006. Mr. Bratland stated that they were
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applying so earlier because they need to have their paperwork completed and submitted
to the Minnesota Youth Soccer Association by December 2,2005.
Commissioner Blackstad expressed his concern about baseball or softball tournaments
that may be planned for this same weekend.
Mr. Bratland stated that they have tried to contact the baseball club and have gotten no
response, however they have checked the calendar for the past 10 years for this weekend
and have seen no conflicts.
Chair Lindahl stated that the deadline for this type of use is usually in January or
February and he does not want to see any groups miss out because this group has applied
so early. He stated that he does not want to set a precedent by allowing early scheduling
so organizations will be coming in July to schedule events for the following summer.
Commissioner Bedor reminded the Commission that Mr. Bratland had checked the
schedule for the last 10 years on this same weekend and there were no conflicts.
Commissioner Blackstad stated that he also does not want to set a precedent by giving
this total approval now because our deadline is in January. He suggested that we could
give tentative approval to this application once it is confirmed with the other groups that
they do not have plans for tournaments that same weekend.
Motion by Commissioner Bedor, seconded by Commissioner Albee, to approve the 2006
tournament application by North Metro Soccer Association.
Commissioner Masloski stated that he was concerned about potential parking issues if
there is another tournament schedule for this same weekend.
Chair Lindahl stated that he agreed with Commissioner Blackstad's idea to grant tentative
approval until it is confirmed that there will be no major conflicts.
Motion failed on O-ayes, 5-nays, 2-absent (Dudgeon and Walton) vote.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad. seconded by Commissioner Masloski, to
recommend tentative approval of the tournament application for the upcoming 2006
soccer season for the North Metro Soccer Association, subject to confirmation from the
softball, baseball and lacrosse associations that this will not cause a problem with other
planned tournaments. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Dudgeon and
Walton) vote.
Commissioner Walton arrived at 7:25 p.m.
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CONSIDER 2005-2006 HOCKEY RINK SCHEDULE
Mr. Haas explained that this schedule is very close to last years schedule.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Masloski, to
recommend approval of the 2005-2006 hockey rink schedule, as presented. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
CONSIDER PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS / STACKS WOODS
PRELIMINARY PLAT
Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to consideration of recommending the park
dedication requirements for the proposed Stacks Woods development.
Mr. Haas noted the closest park to Stacks Woods development is Timber River Park. but
the only way to access this park is from CSAH 7 and 170th Avenue NW as there is no
access from the neighborhood west of Stacks Woods. He noted that with these rural type
developments that are 2.5 acres in size, the property owners generally have their own
playground equipment.
Motion by Commissioner Walton, seconded by Commissioner Blackstad, to recommend
accepting cash in lieu of park land for Stacks Woods.
Further Discussion
Commissioner Masloski stated that with the distance of the two parks, he feels the City
should look at the potential in this area for the future.
Chair Lindahl stated that he agreed and felt a trail for biking and hiking should be
considered to allow access to Timber River Park.
Mr. Haas stated that the City's Comprehensive Plan gives the street through this plat a
collector status and will eventually hook up to I 59th and then back to 7th Avenue. He
suggested that the City could look at a trail along this segment.
Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Masloski, to
recommend to the CiZ Council that a trail along Ventre Street be considered to provide
general access to 159 , Fox Meadows and Timber River. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-
nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
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CONSIDER PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS /SHAW'S GLEN
PRELIMINARY PLAT
Mr. Haas explained the Park Commission has already reviewed the sketch plan and did
recommend cash in lieu ofland., as there will most likely be a park in the adjacent plat of
Woodland Crossing.
Commissioner Blackstad asked if the existing home would be staying.
Mr. Haas stated that it will stay for now but would eventually be split into 4 or 5 lots at
which time we will collect additional park dedication funds.
Commissioner Walton stated that he would like assurance that these additional park
dedication funds will not be missed when they develop in the future.
Mr. Haas confirmed that the City will collect park dedications funds when additional
platting is done on Lot 1.
Motion by Commissioner Masloski, seconded by Commissioner Blackstad., to
recommend accepting cash in lieu of park land for Shaw's Glen. Motion carried on a 6-
ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
RECESS
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad., seconded by Commissioner Walton. to recess the
meeting at 7:40 p.m. while the broadcast cameras are adjusted. Motion carried on a 6-
ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
Chair Lindahl reconvened the Park and Recreation Commission meeting at 7:47 p.m.
CONSIDER PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS /CARDINAL RIDGE
PRELIMINARY PLAT
Motion by Commissioner Masloski, seconded by Commissioner Blackstad, to
recommend cash in lieu of park land for Cardinal Ridge. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-
nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
CONSIDER PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS / WOODLAND CROSSING
PRELIMINARY PLAT
Mr. Haas explained that this item is slightly different that what was presented on June 16,
2005 as part of the review of the sketch plan. He stated that there have been slight
changes made to the location of the shelter and the basketball courts.
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The Commission discussed possible trail connections to this park.
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Byron Westland appeared before the Commission and stated that stated that with the
altered site plan they are trying to minimize the grading and save some of the trees on the
site.
Chair Lindahl stated that he feels the newest site plan is workable, especially if it
preserves the natural setting.
Commissioner Walton stated that he feels the new plan makes better use of the land.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Walton, to recommend
approval for the revised park for Woodland Crossing. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-
nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
There was a Consensus to recommend to the City Council that a trail access to Hanson
Boulevard from the area be established.
UPDATE OF ANDOVER STATION NORTH PARK IMPROVEMENT/FINANCE /
05-15
Mr. Haas explained that the funding information was included in the packets and
encouraged the Commission to contact Jim Dickinson if they had any questions. He
stated that the project should start in the spring of 2006 and should be ready to go by
spring of 2007.
Commissioner Walton suggested checking into possible funding from the Minnesota
Twins Community Fund for this project.
Mr. Haas stated that he will check into this possibility.
UPDATE OF DEDICATION/TOM ANDERSON
Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to having a dedication by planting a tree for
Tom Anderson who recently passed away. He noted that Tom Anderson served on the
Park Commission for a number of years.
Commissioner Blackstad asked what type of placard or acknowledgment will be there.
Mr. Haas stated that he will check to see what has been done in the past.
No action required.
ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT QUARTERLY REPORT
Mr. Haas asked the Commission to review the quarterly report information from the
Sheriff's Department.
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Commissioner Walton asked ifthere was a way to show whether numbers are up or down
compared to previous years.
Mr. Haas stated that he will check with Laura Landis to see if there is a way to compare
previous years information with the newest report.
No action required.
PARK DEDICATION IMPROVEMENT FUND QUARTERLY REPORT/FINANCE
DEPARTMENT
Commissioner Walton stated that he feels some of the numbers do not seem right in the
report. He stated that perhaps the information just needed some explanation.
Mr. Haas stated that he will contact the Finance Department and see ifhe can get some
explanatory information for the Commission.
Commissioner Walton asked that this be put on the next agenda.
No action required.
UPDATE OF STROOTMAN PARK TREE PLANTING PROJECT /05-36
Chair Lindahl stated that this project was written up in the Anoka County Union.
No action required.
UPDATE OF KELSEY ROUND LAKE PARK ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION /05-
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Mr. Haas stated that there was not a lot to report other than the buckthorn project is
moving forward. He stated that there are also discussions with the Fire Department on
the possibility of burning the areas so that prairie grass can be established in the area.
No action required.
REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS
Mr. Haas stated that the Frisbee Golf Course is completed and that holes 5 and 6 were
relocated slightly at the request of area homeowners.
Mr. Haas stated that the playground equipment has been installed at Country Oaks West
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Commissioner Masloski stated that the Skateboard Task Force has been meeting with
Scott Brenner representing the youth group. He stated that Mr. Brenner has been talking
to a representative from the City of Edina who coordinates their skateboard park with the
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local YMCA. Mr. Brenner would like the Commission to invite them to make a
presentation about how their skateboard park works.
Mr. Haas stated that the Advertisement Task Force is trying to set up a meeting sometime
within the next two weeks.
CONSIDER 2006 FEES FOR PARKS
Mr. Haas stated that he recommends that the park dedication fees be increased by 4.3%.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Walton, to approve
increasing the park dedication fees for 2006 by 4.3%. Motion carried on 6-ayes, O-nays,
O-absent (Dudgeon) votes.
Commissioner Blackstad asked if the park usage fees could be rounded up so there are
not such odd fees as $193.13. He stated that, for example, he would like to see the fees
go up from $257.50 for tournament fee for the park plus to $275.00, $200 for field usage
fee per field, $275 tournament fee for the park plus for youth tournaments, and $100 field
usage fee per field, not affiliated with Andover Youth.
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad, seconded by Commissioner Bedor, to recommend
the park usage fees be increased and rounded up from $257.50 to $275.00; $193.13 to
$200; $96.56 to $100.00. Motion carried on 5-ayes, I-nay, 1- absent (Dudgeon) votes.
Commissioner Walton stated that he would like the fee increase to be rounded up in $5
increments.
CHAIR'S REPORT
Commissioner Masloski stated that he had attended a Minnesota Recreational Parks
Association meeting in Rochester. He stated that Rochester has a very successful dogs
park. He stated that it is the cleanest park in their City. He suggested that Andover look
into some land that may not be appropriate for a traditional park and consider creating a
dog park that would be unique to our community. He stated that Rochester has a lot of
cooperation with the University and the school district and stated that he would love to
see our City cooperate this well with our local school district.
Commissioner Blackstad stated that our school district has been uncooperative in the
past.
The Commission discussed past community issues with the school district.
Commissioner Walton stated that the Timberwolves are bringing a one day basketball
camp to the Community Center in December.
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Commissioner Bedor stated that he is involved in a basketball association where they
will not be using the Community Center courts because their fees are so much higher
than those of Oak View Middle School. He stated that he feels the Community Center
should give local athletic associations a break on the fees.
Commissioner Walton explained that the school rates are too low and they cannot cover
their expenses for lighting and heating the buildings. He stated that athletic directors
should discuss the fees with the Community Center Director to see if there is room to
adjust the rates.
Commissioner Masloski asked if there will be any winter festival, open house or other
special events held at the Community Center.
Commissioner Walton stated that an open house was held in September. He stated that
there are craft sales scheduled but that they are looking for other events such as sporting
or boat shows to be held at the Community Center.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Blackstad. seconded by Commissioner Masloski, to adjourn
the meeting at 8:47 p.m. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Dudgeon) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Kayla Atkins Rokosz, Recording Secretary
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