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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - SEPTEMBER 27,2005
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Daninger on September 27,2005, 7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present:
Chairperson Daninger, Commissioners Tim Kirchoff, Rex
Greenwald, Jonathan Jasper (arrived at 7:05 p.m.), Michael
Casey and Valerie Holthus.
Commissioners absent:
Commissioner Dean Vatne.
Also present:
City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Others
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
August 23, 2005
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to approve the minutes as presented. Motion
carried on as-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Jasper, Vatne) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: LOT SPLIT (05-10) TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL RURAL
RESIDENTIAL LOT FROM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 17714 BLUEBIRD
STREET NW.
Mr. Bednarz the property is a corner lot that contains an existing house and accessory
structure and is located at the intersection of Bluebird Street NW and Ward Lake Drive.
Mr. Bednarz discussed the information with the Commission.
Commissioner Jasper arrived at 7:05 p.m.
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Commissioner Kirchoff wondered if at the time of the 1984 Planning Commission
meeting did the property owner to the south own all of the property that is now Ward
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Lake Drive. Mr. Bednarz stated since that time the City purchased street easements on
both Ward Lake Drive and Bluebird Street.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if this planned to access from Ward Lake Drive. Mr_
Bednarz stated that was correct.
Commissioner Kirchoff stated it referenced in 1984 that lot splits did not allow for
variances. He wondered if that continued to this day. Mr. Bednarz stated the Code has
since been revised and includes a variance provision.
Chairperson Daninger recognized a letter in opposition to the request that staff received
from Mr. & Mrs. Paul and Kathleen Miller, 1519 Ward Lake Drive, Andover.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Holthus, to open the public hearing at 7:08 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, l-absent (Vatne) vote.
Mr. & Mrs. Paul & Kathleen Miller, 1519 Ward Lake Drive, stated they are not in favor
of the split.
Mrs. Miller wondered why the code changed in regards to size oflots and the variance.
Chairperson Daninger believed the reason it changed was because times had changed.
He noted the Ordinance also changed to allow a 90% provision.
Mrs. Miller wondered if the neighborhood should be grandfathered in to not allow lot
splits because they are long standing neighborhood. She noted she was also concemed
about the septic, drainfield and wells and how if would affect them. Chairperson
Daninger noted changes to the property cannot affect adjacent lots.
Mr. Miller was also concerned about the effects this would have on the ground water.
Mrs. Nancy Engly, 17744 Bluebird Street NW, stated her concern was that at the time
they built their property and built their home, they chose to build there because of the
quietness and distance from neighbors. She stated she was concemed about the ground
water, noise pollution and precedence this would set.
Mrs. Stacy Lund, 17811 Bluebird Street, wondered what the plan is for City water and
sewer and if it is ever coming to their neighborhood and what the traffic pattern will be if
they extend Hanson. Chairperson Daninger stated they are only looking at the lot split
and she should contact City staff with questions.
Mr. Bednarz stated the City's Comprehensive Plan does not foresee this area as being
served with City sewer and water. The existing trunk sewer they have does not reach this
far north to serve this area He noted the Comprehensive Plan will be updated in 2008.
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Mrs. Lund stated another concem is the traffic the lot splits will create. She stated she
was not for or against this but was trying to figure out how this will impact her
neighborhood. Chairperson Daninger stated traffic is always a concem to them and will
be looked at closely if developed.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:15 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Vatne) vote.
Commissioner Jasper stated he was confused because the minutes from 1984 seemed to
indicate the property directly north of Ward Lake Drive for fifteen feet was owned by the
property owner to the south. He wondered iftitle for that property was ever combined
with the property that is sought to be split.
Mr. Bednarz showed a map of the proposed lot split and explained where the easement
was and where the property line was located. He stated the property to be split is not a
part of anyone else's property.
Commissioner Jasper wondered if there was some more easement between the property
line and road that is owned by the property owner to the south. Mr. BednarZ stated there
was. He stated they made sure they did not use the easement from other properties to
calculate the size of the property to be split.
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Commissioner Greenwald wondered if parcel B was tested to see if there could be a
viable septic and drainfield put in there. Mr. Bednarz stated the property was evaluated
for wetlands and there is room to position the home and put in a drainfield in a number of
positions on the property.
Commissioner Kirchoff wondered if the applicant was planning on building a home on
the split property or were they planning on leaving it vacant and sell it as is. Mr. Bednarz
stated he could not answer that.
Commissioner Greenwald wondered if the split would have a negative impact on the
quality oflife and property values of the surrounding area. Chairperson Daninger did not
believe it would. Commissioner Holthus did not think they could predict that.
Commissioner Holthus wondered if the lot next to this was already split and when was it
split. Mr. Bednarz thought it was split in the late 80s.
Commissioner Jasper stated he did not like the rule that they can be ninety percent
instead of meeting all of the requirements but in light of the fact that is the rule, it appears
this lot split meets all of the requirements now in the ordinance. Chairperson Daninger
stated that was correct.
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Chairperson Daninger he did not feel one more house was a traffic concem at this time
and if that ordinance was not the way it was written, he would say no because there is no
hardship for a variance to happen but based on what is written today, he has to accept it.
~Motion by Holthus, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of
Resolution No. _, lot split for planning case 05-10. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, 0-
nays, l-absent (V atne) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the October 4, 2005 City
Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items and storm clean up
Issues.
Chairperson Daninger thought the City did a great job and had a quick response to the
clean up of the storm.
ADJOURNMENT.
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/ Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to adjourn the meeting at 7:30 p.m. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, l-absent (Vatne) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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