HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 16, 1971
A special meeting of the Grow Township Zoning and Planning
Commission was held November 16, 1971 at Crooked Lake school. Chair-
man Norm Stout called the meeting to order at $:11 PM with Commission
members Christenson, Holasek, Langseth, Nash and Rither present.
Grow Township engineering consultant David E. Hansing, P.E., of
TRI-STATE Engineering, Inc., and Norm Hoium, representing EV Builders
also present. Hansing presented a letter dated November 15, 1971
which reviewed the plat data for Beaudry's 3rd Addition. Hansing
discussed the road easement for 173rd Avenue NW noting that the
center line was not located on the section line. Hoium stated that
according to county records the center line of the road easement is
not located on the section line. Hansing discussed the marsh area
stating that planning for long range sewer extension would require
that an easement be granted along either the westerly or northerly
perimeter of the marsh; that it would not be advisable to extend
the sewer main across the marsh; that it would be advisable to
require an easement along the north line of the park and along the
east line of Block 2. Hoium stated that the easements presented no
problems. Hansing discussed drainage on Block 1, Lot 5 and trapped
water and drainage in basin in Block 3, Lots 1 and 2. Borings were
discussed. In response to questioning by Nash, Hoium stated that
only three borings as shown on the plat were taken. Hansing stated
that percolation tests should be required on Block '1, Lot 7 and on
Block 2, Lot 3; that developer has not indicated how pocket on
Block 2, Lot 1 will be handled. Hoium stated that a representative
of his office was at the site and had observed water draining north
across 173rd Avenue in the area of Block 2 Lot 1. Hansing noted
that he had observed the same. Hansing reviewed contents of letter.
Hansingsuggested that the Commission have a planner look at the
plat; that the butt lots in Block 2 are not consistent with the
rest of the subdivision and suggested that Lots 1 and 2 in Block 2
be turned to face the other direction. Hoium stated that client
does not feel he wants to make any changes; the county is satisfied;
fill from service road to Lot 1 Block 2; Lots 1 and 2 Block 3 can
be filled; 171st Avenue should be shaped up; easements for sewer can
be granted and that should be it. Christenson noted that nothing was
mentioned about the drainage problems. Nash noted that to fill
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Lot 1 Block 2 creates a problem with drainage on 173rd Avenue.
Hansing stated that there is going to be a problem if it is filled
or not; that the water must go to the marsh; that the Township has
a problem on 173rd now but not near as much as it will be. Hoium
stated that the problem can be solved; that the drainage can be
diverted to the marsh. Hansing noted serious silting and erosion
at the corner of 171st Lane and Town Road. In response to questioning
by Nash, Hoium stated that to his knowledge no stabilization of the
roads was planned; that he knew how much had been put into the roads
and that it wasn't very much. Christenson stated that at a previous
meeting it was stated that the roads were expensive; how can we ask
you to agree to these things if you are not the owner's agent? Hoium
stated that he could not agree to these things because he did not
own the property. Christenson stated that the owner should be present
to represent his case. Hansing stated that we have reviewed his
recommendations and that the Commission should now formulate the
suggested revisions to be made on the plat; that the Commission
should review the report and compile a list of changes which Hoium
can take back to the developer. Chairman Stout stated that the
Commission should at this' time take up the Soley variance application.
Rither read the minutes of the July 27 and September 2$, 1971
Commission meetings at which time the Soley variance was discussed.
Richard Wandersee appeared before the Commission. Wandersee stated
that his property abuts the Soley property; that if the Township
has an ordinance which requires a minimum size lot and if the
variance would create a substandard lot, a lot smaller than is
required, he would ask that the ordinance be followed and thereby
request that the variance not be granted. Stout stated that according
to the Township attorney, Tract B is not a lot of record, that it
is recorded as parcel number 6750, which is made up of both Tract A
and B. It was moved by Nash and seconded by Christenson that
whereas the variance does not have any application under the
Ordinance No. $, paragraph 5.04, the request for variance should
be denied. Motion carried. It was noted that although the special
meeting was called to consider the Soley variance, Soley did not
appear.
Chairman stated that we should again take up the Beaudry
3rd Addition plat discussion. Holasek stated that we should get
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rid of the two butt lots and go to the park from there. Christenson
suggested that Lots 1 and 2 in Block 2 be turned around; that the
75 feet left over should be added to the park - a rectangle 75 feet
wide and 370.57 feet deep. Commission completed review of
engineering recommendations. Hansing stated that the Commission
could recommend approval subject to the following restrictions,
improvements as contained in the suggested list of revisions,
[1] That the developer satisfy all requirements set forth in
Engineers letter dated November 15, 1971.
[2J That the developer change the lotting arrangement of Block 2
to provide four lots, 165 feet wide, facing onto Town Road.
[3] That the developer agrees to:
(a) Submit a drainage plan for the subdivision.
(b) Submit typical roadway sections for the proposed
streets.
(c) Construct all roadways and drainage facilities
in accordance with (a) and (b) above with the
understanding that no building permits shall be
issued unless and until these facilities are
approved and accepted by the Town Engineer.
(d) Set aside utility easements, at least 20 feet
wide, along the edge of the existing swamp with
the understanding that no permanent buildings
may be constructed on said easements.
(e) Perform sufficient site grading to eliminate
trapped water areas and to provide for a
rectangular play area of at least 75 feet wide
and 325 feet deep at the south end of Block 2.
said area to be filled to elevation 876 and
graded for positive drainage to the swamp. Said
area also to be seeded.
Hansing suggested-and'the Commission agreed that the
roads should be constructed of three inches of class five
stabilizer, road mixed with a lip curb on side and no ditch with
the boulevard graded one quarter inch per foot minimum towards
the street. After discussion, it was moved by Christenson and
seconded by Rither to table action on the preliminary plat for
Beaudry's 3rd Addition until November 18, 1971. Motion carried.
Meeting was adjourned at 11:00 PM.
Robert A. Rither, Clerk, Zoning and Planning Commission