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Planning & Zoning Agenda - July 30, 1974 - 7:30 p.m. at the Grow Town Community
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{:?,):; 1: S. S. Morris - Memorial Park
77/- 2 2. Rosella Sonsteby - Rezoning
-~ 3. Mr. Reynolds - Sketch Plan
- ,/ 4. Mr. Bruce Folz - Orr-Schelen-Mayeron - Sketch Plan (Hyit Realty Co., section)
'5. Build!.,/!, SiLe Gr4t:~
- ,~ 6. Gerald Windschit 1 - Rezoning
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Minutes of the REGULAR SCHEDULED fillETING of the Grow Township
Planning and Z~ning Commission held July 30, 1974 at the Grow
Town Community Center.
Attending were: Chairman Miles, Commission members Bush, Jaw-
orski, Jack, Johnson, Rither and Vander Laanr and Attorney Hawkins.
Meeting was called to order at 7:35 by Chairman Miles.
Jaworski moved to accept the minutes of the
ing of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
motion carried unanimously.
June 25, 1974 meet-
Johnson seconded;
774-1 Proposed changes to Ordinance #8 were read and Chariman Miles in-
dicated these will be on the agenda for the next regularly
scheduled meeting and will be published in the newspaper.
574-1 Next item on the agenda was action on the proposed Building Site
Criteria based on Soil Limitations Map. A proposed motion was
read by Chairman Miles. A letter from Larry B. Carlson express-
ing concern on this action was read. He asked that before the
decision on this matter was reached that a clearly written state-
ment be issued which sets forth the cause or causes for this
action, what is to be accomplished and how the goals are to be
attained. Johnson moved that the motion proviously read be acted
on. Bush seconded the motion; carried unanimously.
674-2 Bruce Folz, engineer from Orr-Schelen-f1ayeron & Assoc., Inc.,
came forward on behalf of S. S. Morris, Hy itman and william
Itman, who propose to build a memorial park in Grew Township.
Folz presented a sketch plan indicating the piece of property
at approximately 20 acres with a creek running through it. He
said most of the property is extremely low and flat and that it
would be filled with five te six feet of fill material. The
tree lines would be left as buffers. Folz explained he was pre-
senting just a rough contour map as he hadn't had a chance to
get out to the site yet. A road was proposed in an east, seuth-
easterly direction through the property with two access points.
vander Laan indicated an example of a cemetary named the Layman's
Sailor's and Soldier's Memorial Cemetary which is now being cared
for by the Minneapolis Park Board. ~fforts to relocate the buried
failed and the graveyard was then taken over by the City of Minn-
eapolis. 0he said it takes a great deal of m.ne~ to start a
graveyard and that if it goes bankrupt it will have to be taken
over by the community or county in which it is locBced. She
said ~alifornia now has 267 cemetaries being maintained by cities
and that that state does net permit any cemetary of less than
75 acres because they feel the perpetual care fund will not be
large enough to last for 100 years in any cemetary which is smaller.
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She centinued that frem a censervation standpoint another cemetary
may net be the best thing right now. According to figures from the
National Recreation and Parks Assn., the Bureau of Census, cem-
etaries occupy as much as 2 million in this country. This would
exceed the estimated 1.5 million acres in municipal parks. This
site, she noted, is located in a proposed conservation area as
shown on p. 168 of the proposed Comprohensive Plan. Vander Laan
continued that with double-depth graves, above ground crypts and
cremation, present cemetary owners are making better use of land
already dedicated to cemetary. She stated that according to the
President of the Twin Cities Cemetary Association and two other
cemetary owner/managers, the Metropolitan area has sufficient
burial space for many years. Chairman Miles read a letter from
Attorney Hawkins describing what authority the Township has to
regulate this activity. He indiCated under Minnesota Statutes,
Chapter 306, are contained regulations for take over of abandoned
cemetaries and establishment of perpetual care funds. He recommend-
ed that the Planning and Zoning should require a preliminary plat
prior to the granting of a Special Use Permit. He also suggested
that the Planning and Zoning Commission require articles of incor-
poration and names and addresses of all those involved. Under
Minnesota Statute 412.221, Subd. 9, a village power which Grow
Township posesses, the Township is allowed to regulate, by ordinance,
cemetaries and burials of dead bodies and could impose reasonable
requirements on the establishment of this cemetary in regard to
water tables, land suitability, etc. Folz objected, saying that
the Commission should not require the developers to invest a lot
of money in planning if they are opposed to the concept. Vander
Laan answered that a very thorough plan of what will be constructed
in the Township is very necessary at this point, that without
knowing exactly what Morris intends to do, the Commission would
not know if it would be acceptable to the community, and that if
Grow Township is going to have a cemetary, it should be a good
cemetary. Folz said that before the developers spend money on the
concept, they are interested if the Commission believes in the
concept. Jaworski observed that residents were present for the
review of the application for the Special Use Permit, not the
sketch plan. Vander Laan said the situation arose from the fact
that the Commission was not previously given enough information
on the Special Use Permit and indicated it could be resolved by
Morris's answering some questions. To the series of questions she
asked, applicant answered he would incorporate, would not run and
maintain the cemetary himself, would charge between $200 and S350
per lot, would not have any double-depth graves, and would class-
ity his cemetary as profit making. Vander Laan indicated that
according to a former Director of the National Cemetary Association,
all cemetaries constructed after 1930 would have to be classified
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as non-profit, therefore non-assessable and, as all cemetaries
are, non taxable. Hawkins said there would be no need to install
sewer and water in the graveyard and therefore it would not be
assessed. Laws applicable to burial in high water table areas
were then discussed. Jack asked if Morris had an overall plan
and target date for the cemetary tQwhich he replied that he wanted
to develop at least 3 acres at first. Jaworski observed that the
road plan would bring problems, that both roads along the property
are narrow and would create hardships and problems for the prop-
erty owners out there already. Jaworski said that the water is
high in the area, 0 to 1 foot, ponding and flooding with very severe
limitations. Folz indicated there~is no standing water in the
area at this time, the only water present is in the creek flowing
through the property and that six feet of fill material would be
brought in. Rither asked from where the fill would be taken and
what impact it would have on this area and the area from which it
would come. Folz answered the proposed subdivision construction
would supply some fill. Rither asked from what area Morris expected
to draw the clientele for his operation and refered to the fact
that there are already two small cemetaries in Grow Township.
He refered to p. 34 of the proposed Comprehensive Plan indicating
thAt more than 58% of the population in 1970 were below 25 years
of age and that 77% were below 34 years of age. He stressed that
the average age structute of the area is very young. Morris indi-
cated that today people often don't wait until a death occurs to
buy a cemetary lot. Rither pointed out that the corner of 7th Ave.
and Valley Drive is zoned Neighborhood Business. Chairman Miles
read a letter from Larry B. Carlson asking what impact it would
have on his property located adjacent to the memorial park site.
It was then established that there would be a need for a well and
limited use for a septic system. Hawkins advised because most of
the land is unbuildable it would not be assessed for sewer and
water. Mr. Busher, brother of Helen Cogan, an adjoining property
owner, observed that the developers are purely talking about a
concept. Myron Roseland, andtherl'adjacent:propertYiowner"iildicated"
there should be a certain distance between the road and graveyard
to be restricted from cemetary use and that this would not leave
enough property to be developed into cemetary. Ed Coleman, Attorney
for James Stack, observed he had done some research and found
that it takes many years to make funds from this kind of operation
and that it takes a minimum of 75 acres to make a good one. He
observed no soils tests have been made and asked if Morris wasn't
expecting the Commission to accept a pig in a poke. Folz said-
he didn't see that this would be creating a public burden. Jaworski
asked if applicants'had any more' land in the area and it was stated
that they owned another 115 acres across the road. Stack said
there already is an abandoned cemetary on that property. Commission
observed there just hasn't been enough information presented on
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which to make a judgement. Rither read from Ordinance #8, Sec.
5.03 (B) listing information requirements. Vander Laan indicated
if applicant wished to pursue his project he should present the
Commission with very detailed plans prepared by people fully
experienced in cemetary development, and that they could consider
some futuristic concepts in the cemetary design such as fish ponds
or bike trails so that it would also have a use as open space area.
She expressed a desire to see financial statements from the appli-
cants and approximate cost of the fill and proper soil borings.
Itman asked if he could ask the Commission individually for
questions or points of information they desire. Cole~an stressed
that the adjacent property owners had appeared twice and the Ordin-
ance sets forth to the applicant what is required for a Special
Use Permit. Vander Laan moved that the Planning Com~ission
recommend to the Town Board of Supervisors that the Special Use
Permit Application for Morris be denied on the grounds that the
Commission has felt the land is too low and the cemetary is not
large enough to maintain itself with respect to a perpetual care
fund. Johnson added that the request does not contain all the
criteria necessary as listed under Sec. 5.03 (B) of Ordinance #8.
Rither seconded the motion; motion carried unanimously.
Rither then moved that the Commission should consider only agenda
items 774-2, 774-5 and 674-4 at this meeting and defer action on
items 774-3 and 774-4 to Wednesday, August 7th. Jack seconded the
motion; motion carried unanimously.
Rosella Sonsteby appeared to request rezoning for 9 acres to Neigh-
borhood Business for a grocery store and vegetable stand to belocat-
ed on her property on County Road #9. Commission observed soil was
classified in Group 2 of the Soil Limitations Map. Sonsteby
explained there is 495 feet of frontage on County Road #9 and that
access roads to the area would be constructed. Neighbors who were
present indicated that only two of them had been notified by mail
and it was determined that the Township staff was not at fault in
this as the list of adjoining property owners had been sup~lied by
the applicant as per requirements in Ord. #8, Sec. 5.02 (B). The
following comments were made by adjoining property owners: Robert
Haslip, 14279 Vintage NW indicated he was opposed to the rezoning,
that it will be just like another Kemp's Store. Beverly Hagen,
14234 Round Lake Blvd. said she was opposed as she never needed
a store before in the area. Ann Gallus said she was opposed as
her home is within 300 feet from the line. Hagen indicated she
had notified everyone who had not received letters from the Town-
ship. Gary Olson, 14269 Underclift indicated the road would
encompass Underclift and why do we need 2 or 3 accesses to the
back 40 acres? What kind of traffic will this bring to the area?
Commission asked if any of the residents have had problems in find-
ing a store to which all answered no. Commission noted the proposed
store would be located on County Road #9, a heavily traveled road.
Rither noted there is limited access to the site and tbat the primary
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consideration should be that three-fourths of a mile to the South
is located an area already zoned NB. Miles noted that we must
look at the evolution of our Comprehensive Plan and that in the
Plan there is already an area designated for NB and this is not
that area. Applicant stated she felt this is the perfect spot
for a neighborhood business. Olson stated that no one moved out
to the area to have a store built next to him, and that there is
a store within one mile. Henry Anderson indicated the area should
be left for residential use because there are many nice bomes in
the area. Mabel MacGill, 14140 Round Lake Blvd. stated she was
opposed to the rezoning. Sonsteby explained the store would be 40
by 60 feet with allowance to add on later and that she would not
operate the store herself. Gallus stated she would prefer to
wait until there is a need for a store in the area. Sonsteby
stated all the access streets would be put in immediately with the
exception of the southern one. Bush stressed that the people don't
feel a need for a store. Rither moved that the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend to the Town Board of Supervisors that the
rezoning request for Rosella Sonsteby be denied due to the fact that
the area located at the intersection of Round Lake Road and Bunker
Lake Blvd. of five to ten acres is presently zoned NB and it is
not felt that at this time additional area is needed for Neighbor-
hood Business purposes. Bush seconded the motion; motion carried
unanimously. Rither noted that if the Board of Supervisors turns
down the rezoning applicant cannot for one year reapply for a re-
zoning for the area.
674-5 Next item on the agenda was a rezoning request from Gerald Windschitl.
He explained that the Board of Supervisors had expressed that his
previous appearance before them for a variance had not been in order,
that a rezoning request was the way to obtain permission to sub-
divide his property. He stated thRt the property is located across
the street from an R-4 area, and that rezoning and platting his
property would enable him to sell. Miles explained that the Town
Board had duly noted the recommendation of the Planning and Zoning
Commission and reasons for the denial of the variance request; in
that it is an inopportune time to develop the land to the potential
which would be most beneficial to the Township and the property own-
er; that he would still conform to the proposed Comprehensive Plan.
Applicant presented a sketch plan of the property. Jaworski noted
the area left with the house would be over 39,000 sq.ft. Miles
noted a condition of the rezoning would be that Windschitl would
plat and bring to a complete recording 2 parcels of land, and bring
to a preliminary approved status the land as divided into R-4 char-
acter. Rither noted that the same reasons for recommending dis-
approval of the variance, "in this case a rezoning, would still apply.
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Miles noted this would not be spot zoning and that requiring the
applicant to plat into 2-+ acre pieces would be premature and not
beneficial to anyone. Miles continued that Windschitl has the
option of selling the property as it is now, divide it into 2-+
acre lots or to have it rezoned and plat into R-4 lots. Rither ask-
ed if we want to create any more R-4 areas and pointed out the land
is near the Sanitary Landfill. Jaworski moved that the Planning
and Zoning Commission recommend to the Town Board of Supervisors
that the rezoning request for Gerald Windshcitl be approved because:
(1) there has been no oppostion from adjoining property owners,
(2) it is contiguous to other R-4 zoning, (3) it is in an urban
area as designated by the proposed Comprehensive Plan. Miles added
that Windschitl has agreed to plat. Vander Laan seconded the motion.
Bush, Jack, Jaworski and Vander Laan voted aye; Rither voted nay
and Johnson abstained; motion carried.
Next item on the agenda was the Public Hearing on the Preliminary
Plat for Kiowa Terrace. It was determined that an engineering
report on the Breliminary Plat had not been received but 'that <.the
Park Board had formulated a recommendation to the Commission. It
was moved by Rither that action on the Preliminary Plat for Kiowa
Terrace be delayed until a special meeting of the Planning and
Zoning Commission on August 7th. Johnson seconded the motion; motion
carried unanimously.
Mr. Reynolds appeared before the Commission to ask if a man to
whom he is selling 20 acres of land by metes and bounds on a Con-
tract for Deed could separate it into four-five acre pieces, plat
only one five acre parcel and get a clear title and separate legal
description on that without platting the remaining five acre parcels.
The property is located on Tulip Street. Reynolds quoted two es-
timates he had received, one for $3,700 and the other for $8,700.
Johnson said he would recommend Reynolds to suggest to his buyer that
he should try to buy the entire 20 acres and retain it until he
can afford to pay for the entire amount of land rather than waste
the money for the platting. Vander Laan said she concurred, and
Reynolds said his question had been answered.
Johnson moved that the meeting be adjourned and Bush seconded the
motion; carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 12:00.