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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 9, 1976 ~ ) / -'/ ) \ ) ~ CITY 01 ANDOVER '1 / \ l PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION Regular Meeting - November 9, 1976 AGENDA Approval of Minutes 1. Comm. #4-76-8 Barnes' Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition Continued Preliminary Plat Public Hearing 2. Comm. #11-76-1 City of Andover Variance Request 3. Comm. #8-76-4 Ordinance 36 Amendment Discussion 4. Comm. #9-76-8 Capital Improvements Program Discussion For publication on November 5, 1976 \, / ~, ~::tf 11-7'-'-/ (;" ~-41-11-7"'-S- Tern ~ 'uu;i:d, p~ n~'l:tT~,J)~ P~(~::J~) '- J , ) \ ~ ) \ ~ ) I \ ) arYofANDOVER \ , / REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING November 9, 1976 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Ken Orttel on November 9, 1976, at the Andover Community Center, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota 55303; Commissioners Present: Dave Jack, Ralph Kishel, Ted Lachinski Commissioners Absent: Don Jacobson, Art Jaworski, Larry Retzlaff Also Present: Rex Stockwell, Engineer from T.K.D.A., and others Minutes Motion by Commissioner Kishel, seconded by Chairman Orttel, to accept the Minutes of October 26, 1976. Vote on motion: yes - Chairman Orttel, Commissioner Kishel; present - Commissioner Lachinski, Commissioner Jack. Motion carried. / Barnes' Rolling Oaks 2nd Add'n Preliminary Plat (Comm. #4-76-8) The Commission received new plats 11-5-76 which show the temporary cul- de-sac on Palm Street and also the additional soil borings. Rex Stockwell reviewed the soil borings with the Commission. The water level is the prime concern. The peat can be removed without too much problem. The developer may be required to fill the lots prior to final plat approval and at the time of final plat approval, he would certify that the lots have been filled and are at the proper elevation. Mr. Wicklund again stated that the materials from constructing the roads can be used for filling the lots. Discussed whether the developer would have to remove the peat from the entire lot or just 39,000 square feet. Discussed park land dedication. Commissioner Kishel advised that the park board talked about purchasing the lots (Lot 3, Block 6 and Lot 3, Block 3) adjacent to the proposed park. The land would have to be purchased after final plat stage. Motion by Commissioner Lachinski, seconded by Commissioner Jack, to close the public hearing on Barnes' Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition Preliminary Plat. Motion carried unanimously. ) () C) r) \. , (J ~J Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 9, 1976 Page 2 Motion by Commissioner Lachinski, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends to the City Council to approve the Preliminary Plat of Barnes' Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition subject to: 1) the final approval of the Park Board on the park dedication. 2) the shading of all areas of peat removal and fill on the preliminary plat as requested by the Engineer. 3) indicating the minimum basement floor elevations as requested by the Engineer. The Preliminary Plat, in all other ways, meets the criteria of Ordinance 10 and meets the approval of the Engineer at this time. Motion carried unanimously. The Preliminary Plat will be on the Park/Recreation Commission Agenda of December 2nd and the City Council Agenda on December 7th. City of Andover Variance Request (Comm. #11-76-1) ,r .... I , /' Chairman Orttel explained the Variance Request to the Commission. The Variance is for construction in "The Oaks" plat. There are 9-15,000 square foot lots and the Ordinance (Section 7 of Ordinance 8 - R-4) calls for "private sewer and water systems only on every third lot or no more frequently than one system for each 39,000 square feet~' The City Building Department has issued 3 building permits on 3 adjacent lots. Chairman Orttel stated that since there are 9 lots in the plat and only 3 lots are currently having dwellings constructed - there is no ordinance violation - thus no reason for this Variance~ Also, that the individual involved, his attorney, or the City ^ttQrHey do not feel that a Variance is required. "corredecl Ih::l3'7/. The Commissioners discussed the Ordinances concerning this matter and all agreed that t~e BtiildiR~ offiGi&!-sfl~ny any ~rther in thio plat btit there is no violation now and to drop the matter this time. / building at Motion by Commissioner Jack, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, that the Commission table this item until it is further brought up by the Council. Motion carried unanimously. Ordinance #36 Amendment Discussion (Crnrrm. #8-76-4) Chairman Orttel read letter from Patricia K. Lindquist of October 6, 1976 and referred to a letter from her of November 5, 1976. No word or information has been received from the Attorney. The Commission discussed Ordinance setback line requirements. It was suggested that the seller make sure he has a certificate of buildability. Also suggested that Ordinance 36 be left as it is and the Planning and Zoning Crnrrmission start drafting a new "disclosure ordinance". Chainnan Orttel will get a copy of the Ordinance from Ham Lake and send it with a letter to Bill Hawkins. ''\ '--.J , '\ ,J .~ ~ 'J' (- ) () ,--~ f --... , 1 \J '\ j .~ - /- Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - November 9, 1976 Page 3 Capital Improvements Program Discussion (Comm. #9-76-8) Wes Hendrickson, planner from T.K.D.A., will be contacted so that a meeting can be scheduled for information - price quote, various stages of development, etc., - on a 5-year Capital Improvements Program._ It was suggested that the City Council be invited to this meeting. Tom Cherny Sketch Plan (Comm. #11-76-4) Mr. Cherney showed the Commission the land he owns in Red Oaks, approximately 2 acres at 140th and Raven Street. He said his assessment is over $10,000 and would like to split the land into 3 more lots. There is a 125' NSP easement through there but in checking with NSP he found that NSP no longer is interested in the land. Mr. Cherney needs a motion from the City asking NSP to give back the right to the easement, an official request, and also said that he will pay them $640. 3 Sanitary Sewer stubs have been put in already. Discussed assessment costs, policies, future improvements, etc. Mr. Cherney will check further with a surveyor and begin preparation of the preliminary plat. Norbert Tempel Sketch Plan (Comm. #11-76-5) Mr. Tempel presented a 4-acre plan with 3 lots in Section 33. Sanitary Sewer stubs will be needed on the lake lot and also Lot 1, Block 1. Engineer Stockwell estimated the cost for this at $2,000. The road is currently class 5. Since this is a portion of land that Mr. Tempel had previously reached the "preliminary plat" stage, the Commission saw no problem with the sketch plan. Ad;ournment Motion by Commissioner Kishel, seconded by Commissioner Lachinski, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 9:15 P.M. ~ .o:!.~ commissi~~f:~k