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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 11, 1976 , '1 / \ ' \ ) ~) CITY of ANDOVER \ ) \ } PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING - MAY 11, 1976 AGENDA Approval of Minutes 1. Comrn. ffl- 7 6-3 2. Comm. #9-75-2 3. Comm. #4-76-2 4. Comm. #5-76-1 5. Comrn . #5-76-2 6. Comm. #4-76-9 Barnes Rolling Oaks Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing Country Estates Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Forest Meadows Preliminary Plat Public Hearing City Wide Properties Variance E. V. Builders Variance Noon Construction Variance Publish on May 7, 1976 \ , ) \ , ) ,) () CITY 01 ANDOVER / " ) REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING j May 11, 1976 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Chairman Ken Orttel on May 11, 1976, at the Andover Community Center, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota 55303. Commissioners Present: Dave Jack, Don Jacobson, Ralph Kishel, Ted Lachinski, and Larry Retzlaff Commissioner Absent: Art Jaworski Also Present: Rex Stockwell, Engineer from T.K.D.A., and others Minutes Motion by Commissioner Lachinski, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, to approve the Minutes of April 27, 1976. Motion carried unanimously. ./ Noon Construction Variance (Comm. #4-76-9) Vernon Noon explained to the Commission that the 10 acre lot was purchased last fall and he has a buyer who wants a house built on it, but the land has less than the required frontage. The County Engineer has given his approval for a common driveway onto Round Lake Boulevard with the adjoining property owner to the North. Refer letter from Building Official, James Thurston, dated April 26, 1976 (copy attached). Motion by Commissioner Lachinski, seconded by Commissioner-Kishel, to recommend that the Variance be granted as it is consistant with the development on adjacent property; subject to a setback on the front property line of 50', also, subject to a combined driveway with the property to the North. Motion carried unanimously. Barnes Rolling Oaks Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #1-76-3) William G. Hawkins, City Attorney, has stated to Chairman Orttel that the City can "accept" money in lieu of land for park dedication but can not "ask" for money. The Coon Creek Watershed Board has not replied to the request for their recommendation. Brad Wicklund stated that on the question about the ditch and water table, the only changes were to bring the ditch back into the condition it was before Mr. Barnes bought the property. It will not affect wells or the water table. The ditch has been filled in by normal farming operations. , ./ o C) C) () ~ " j Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - May 11, 1976 Page 2 Mr. Wicklund stated they would like to eliminate Goldenrod Street and proposed guaranteeing the construction of l47th from Prairie Road to Smith's Rolling Oaks instead. Mr. Stockwell advised the Commission that the reason for eliminating Goldenrod is the cost of construction because of the unstable soil conditions. l47th Avenue would be 1686' from Prairie Road to Evergreen, which is 366 feet over the maximum allowed by Ordinance 10. Jerry Carlson, 14744 Evergreen Street NW, stated, "I have no objection to the road, but I do not want to pay an assessment for it." The Commission discussed increased setback on Andover Boulevard, basement and street level elevations, future subdivision, and a common driveway for Lot 5 and Lot 4, Block 2, onto Andover Boulevard. \ ',-_I This item will be on the City Council Agenda May 18, 1976, because of the requirement in Ordinance 10, Section 7.02 (k). Motion by Commissioner Jack, seconded by Commissioner Jacobson, that we continue the Public Hearing to allow Mr. Wicklund time to comply with the changes and the redrawing. Discussion on items needed before the plat can be approved by the Commission: building setback line be moved back, broken line showing resubdivision, 66' _(previously Goldenrod Street) be split between Lots on each side, Coon Creek Watershed Board should clarify their request for signatures from adjoining property owners "down stream", and Ordinance 10 Section 9.03. Motion carried unanimously. Country Estates Preliminary Plat Public Hearing (Comm. #9-75-2) Mr. Hoium presented a revised plat to the Commission. A recess was called for 15 minutes in order to review the new plat. Mr. Hoium has added one more lot - to make 7 lots on the North side of the street and 6 lots on the South, leaving a 50' right-of-way on Crooked Lake Boulevard. Mr. Stockwell presented a letter from T.K.D.A. (copy attached) dated 5-10-76 and reviewed it with the Commission. Most of the items were taken care of by the revised plat, but #3, lot depth, and #13, bituminous streets and storm sewer required, were the major topics of discussion. Lester McLaughlin, 2868 - 135th Lane NW, stated, "The property is such that we have to develop it. I don't really feel that we could pay the cost of storm sewer and streets." Wayne Cordes, 2828 - l35th Lane NW, expressed concern over where the road would be going, thought the revised Plat #3 looked the best, but wouldn't like 2 lots in back of his property - feels the lots should be of equal size to align with the lots on l35th Lane. . \ " ) Jim Lentner, 2823 - l35th Avenue, asked about the problems involved with renaming the street. C) u ~) \ \ ) \ / Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - May 11, 1976 Page 3 Motion by Commissioner Jacobson, seconded by Commissioner Jack, to continue the hearing in order to allow the developer time to comply with the City of Andover Ordinance #8-6.02, requiring the minimum lot depth of 130', to rectify the substandard lot size to meet the requirements of 13,000 square feet, to rectify Lot 6, Block 2, the lot frontage which does not comply with the Ordinance, and to take note of the T.K.D.A. letter dated May 10, 1976 when preparing the plat for our consideration. Motion carried unanimously. Forest Meadows Preliminary Plat Public Hearing (Comm. #4-76-2) Lawrence Carlson presented a revised Preliminary Plat of Forest Meadows. Mr. Stockwell reviewed with the Commission the letter (copy attached) from T.K.D.A. dated May 11, 1976. They discussed: the many apparent discrepancies on the plat regarding footage printed and the lot sizes; Ordinance 10-Section 9.06 (c); future subdivision; possible Variance request for Lot 6, Block 2; Oak Grove has not sent comments or recommendations on their review of the Plat. , ) ~_/ Motion by Commissioner Lachinski, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, to approve the Preliminary Plat for Forest Meadows. Amendment by Commissioner Lachinski, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, to add: the Preliminary Plat conforms to Community Engineering and Design Standards, there are no objections from adjoining property owners, and no formal objections to the Plat from the City Engineer at this time. Amendment and motion carried unanimously. City Wide Properties Variance (Corom. #5-76-1) Changed to Agenda item #7 because no one was present to represent City Wide Properties. E. V. Builders Variance (Comm. #5-76-2) Mr. and Mrs. Beaudry came forward and explained their reasons for requesting this Variance. They built the house almost on the property line; and, it has been sold on contract twice since then. Now they would like to sell but the mortgage company will not accept as it is. The Commission discussed Ordinance 8 - Sections 5.04 and 6.02 (setbacks) should it be 50' instead of 30'. Motion by Commissioner Jack, seconded by Commissioner Jacobson, to refer this to the Attorney for his opinion and put it back on the next Agenda. Motion carried unanimously. : ~ ~ ) ~J (,) . ) ~, "- / Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - May 11, 1976 ., Page 4 \. City Council Variance (Comm. #5-76-3) Chairman Orttel explained the reason for this request from the City Council and Pat Lindquist and reviewed the information the Commission has received (copies of letter and memo attached). Some of the comments in the discussion were: don't think we should give a blanket Variance without even looking at it, we should have more information than this, in favor of granting a Variance for this one lot but not any more than that, Mr. & Mrs. Steve Nokk should be applying for the Variance for one lot - not the City, the City Council will be acting on this Variance at a Special Meeting May 13, 1976 regardless of the Planning Commission action, the action of the Planning Commission is strictly a formality. -, -' ..... -' Motion by Commissioner Jacobson that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council denial of a Blanket Variance for nonconforming lots on N~ of the SW~ of Section 9, Township 32, Range 24 because of a lack of information supplied to the Planning Commission on the matter; but that the Planning and Zoning Commission does recommend a Variance for Parcel 4940 (The East 366.7' of the West 2250.2' of the South 297' of the North 957' of the SW~ of Section 9, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, MN). Such Variance would be approved based on economic hardships, and no negative input from any residents in the area. No second, motion dies. Mary VanderLaan, Councilperson, and Marv Christenson, Park and Recreation Commission member, (just leaving from a Bicentennial Meeting) were asked for further information. Motion by Commissioner Jack, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends approval of the Variance, as per the request from the City Council, for the following reasons: 1) the City has allowed building permits to be issued. 2) the roads are in and have been maintained and dedicated. 3) they are 2~ acre lots. 4) reference letter from Pat Lindquist of April 30, 1976. 5) reference May 4, 1976 unanimous motion by City Council. Vote on motion: yes - Commissioner Jack, Commissioner Jacobson, Commissioner Kishel, Commissioner Retzlaff, Chairman Orttel; no - Commissioner Lachinski. Motion carried. City Wide Properties Variance (Comm. #5-76-1) This will be on the Agenda for the next meeting. Ad;ournment Motion by Commissioner Jack, seconded by Commissioner Lachinski, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 11:45 P.M. " '\ I A~~~~. Deloris J. anson Commission Clerk I '\ , ) \ " ) '-./ (,ry 01 ANDOVER '\ I i M E M 0 RAN DUM To: Planning and Zoning Commission Copies To: Noon Realty From: Building Official Da Ie: April 26. 1976 Reference: Variance - Noon Realty Subject Property - Plat 65909, Parcel 2410 - 165' x 2640' approximately 10 acres, subject to Power easement of 50' as shown on attached exhibit. Property to the North - Plat 65904, Parcel 6350 - 200' x 945+ approximately 4.3 acres, subject to Power easement of 50'. Property to the South - Plat 65909, Parcel 2550. - 165' x 2640' approximately 10 acres. '- ) Properties on both sides of subject property have been improved (single family dwellings). I recommend that the Variance be granted as it is consistant with the development on adjacent properties; subject to a setback from the front property line of 50 feet, not 25 as shown on attached plot plan. The 50 feet being consistant with setback along a major arterial street. ~\L~ ~ ~~ mes E. Thurston uilding Official JET:djh . / \ / --- , ../ ( I I\t.\s -^- (,Sqo<\ - b~SO 'RN .9 I r --.- ~rJ / t...- . . , \ ) t~ --- ,/ fir'" E~"r..L'''''' .,., /S\)o:rECo\ ,?R~~R..''(,/ / / /<DsctO'\- ~"\\~. / " /' / ' /' ,L'JifI"....',' . ,./ ___~_ 30Y:::' -.- :~(! .: --............ ___J'-.'~ ........ 3-_____________ : -~~'......~...... . ---- 4........... --.. o!t,' --_ ............... -- ,...........~- -- 30~/0 ---- o ~ CO JU (.,5q~~ - ~S'50 I -, I . ~l"; .. W ~ <t ~ \ J1J){ , - ,u.. J p.- ------ ----- ~ \.--.. .'_-.,..'t' } ..... a z ::> o n:: ( ,{/-('(' ) 171'-13 ;.. // / / ~..r" . j ) A'cPA , I I / I / , (H:F"J \ ( -'-IN) Jo09 ,------:---- --~--- : 17 2--NB- -'!Lf- : - -AVf. . I' ----3~O&1--- --- ....... ,; "" ~-- ( UN) " . ) / ) '\ ) TKDA TOLTZ, KING, DUVALL, ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS 1408 PIONEER BUILDING SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA 55101 224-7891 May 10, 1976 RICHARD M. BARKER OWEN J. BEATTY CARREl. H. BERKOWITZ ROaERT A. BOYER JA\,tS C. BROTE~ ARNOT J. DUVA1..!.. !-IUGO G. ERICKSOr-. W;:"LIAM J. FEYCE:F ROYCE a. HANSE~ STEPHEN M. HARTl..E'r CLrFFORO E, ":OH~SC~ OuWAYNE R. KASVlA ~. THOMAS KIRK :)AV1D W. KI RKW::>_:': A. D'EAN Ll,.;N::HOL1\.' ROBERT T, MALO~Ev R~CHARD D. MENKES :"~CNARC G. MI~LEFi WAYNE A. O!..50N DUA~E T, P::1:EW Ri.:DO\..FH p, RAfTOF. ROBERT R. RYDER WILLlAM T. SHERfOA~ ABE J. SPER1..-1NG WALTER W. THORPE JAMES E. VCYEN NATHAN F, WEBER Planning and Zoning Commission Andover, Minnesota 55303 RE: Country Estates Preliminary Plat Review Andover, Minnesota Co=ission No. 6223-76 Commission Members: GEORGEJ. SCHROEPFE~ CL1FFORD W. HAMBLIN We have reviewed the Preliminary Plat of proposed Country Estates in the City of Andover. The following are our comments regarding the proposed development: / 1. The proposed development is zoned R-4 and requires a minimum lot area of 13,000 square feet with sanitary sewer. All of the proposed lots are of sufficient area to meet this requirement. 2. The required lot frontage is 85 feet minimum. The frontage of all proposed lots exceed this requirement. 3. The minimum lot depth for R-4 is 130 feet. The north tier of the lots have a proposed lot depth of 115 to 116 feet and the south tier of the lots have a pro- posed lot depth of 95 to 96 feet. All of the lots, therefore, do not meet the minimum lot depth for R-4 zoning. We would recommend that the proposed street (135th Avenue NW) be realigned along the centerline of the development. In so doing, the lot depths for each tier of lots will be approximately 106 feet. A rearrangement of lot widths would be required to maintain a minimum lot area of 13,000 square feet. 4. All setback line should be indicated and the width of each should be noted. 5. The width and type of surfacing of all adjacent streets should be indicated. \ I ) . I I '. ) .. \ I Andover City Council May 10, 1976 Page Two 6. The 36" RCP sanitary sewer on Crooked Lake Boulevard should be shown beyond the north limits of the plat. This construction was not completed at the time of the original survey, however, it has been constructed to this date. 7. An 8" PVC sanitary sewer sub should be shown from the existing manhole near the intersection with the proposed street and Crooked Lake Boulevard to the present west right-of-way line of Crooked Lake Boulevard. The invert elevation at the end of the stub is 855.81 at 0.40% grade. 8. An 8" PVC sanitary sewer should be shown extending north from the 8" PVC shown on the plat on Gladiola Street. The additional length is 65 feet and runs along the centerline of the right-of-way. The end manhole has an invert elevation of 856.99. / 9. Names of all property owners adjacent to and within 100' of the plat should be shown on each parcel or lot. 10. The developer has named the proposed street as 135th Avenue NW which cor- responds to the Community Plan. Existing 135th Avenue NW must, therefore, be renamed to 134th Lane NW. 11. The proposed right-of-way for Crooked Lake Boulevard within the plat should be indicated as 50 feet. 12. A 10' utility and drainage easement is required along all street right-of-way line as well as those already shown. 13. Bituminous streets, storm sewer and sanitary sewer will be required for this subdivision. All of the improvements should be constructed by the City for proper coordination and inspection of each project. The developer should petition the City for the improvements. .I -, ) \ ) , -{ ,/ Andover City Council May 10, 1976 Page Three \- j / We will discuss this letter with the Commission at the May 11, 1976 meeting. RWS:vlo cc: Patricia K. Lindquist - Clerk N. C. Hoium - Surveyor .. Yours very truly, TOLTZ, KING, DUVALL, ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED -/!~ W S'-LkL Rex W. Stockwell br ]),t2,k::. /- '\ J \ '. ) ') , -' i / , , J May 11, 1976 Planning and Zoning Commission Andover, Minnesota Re: Forest Meadows Preliminary Plat Review Andover, Minnesota Commission No. 6223-76 Commission Members: We have reviewed the revised Preliminary Plat of Forest Meadows in the City of Andover. The following are our comments on the proposed plat: 1. The proposed plat conforms to the Anoka County Highway Department requirements for frontage on County Highways. Mr. Paul Ruud has indicated that the entrance of the streets and the distance between streets and the railroad are consistant with the Anoka County requirements. No direct access from individual lots will be necessary or allowed in the plat. 2. Miscellaneous ditch work drainage of lots on Xeon Street. the street construction phase. or shaping may be required for complete This work will be accomplished during / 3. The proposed street grades and typical street section are consistant with the Community Standards and drainage structures have been adequately placed. 4. We have reviewed the soils information conducted by.Ronald M. Harless. All of the proposed lots appear to be buildable. Careful soils investigation of Lots 1, 2, and 4, Block 3, should be required at the time a building permit is issued. The additional investigation will provide the information for proper drainage system design and location. We would recommend no building permit be issued on these lots until the results.of the investigation have been carefully reviewed by the Building.Official. The revised preliminary plat conforms to the Community Engineering and Design standards. We will review this letter with the Commission at the May 11, 1976 meeting. Very truly yours, , T.K.D.A. ~Lfl( Rex Stockwell \ ) RV1S:jmb cc: Patricia K. Lindquist, Clerk James Thurston, Building Official ) \. ) ) .. >rYV)y\~1 c; -)& - 3 C:DilV o{} CJD:J90 \lEQ j REQUEST FOR REZONING SPECIAL USE PERMIT (Circle o:.e) VARIANCE 1. l'<ame of Applicant CITY COUNCIL 2. Address: Residence Bus ine s s Ph on e : Residence Business 4. Date of Application MAY 4, 1976 5. I hereby petition the City of Andover ior the item circled above relating to the foilowing described prelTIlSes: N i/2 of the SW 1/4 of Section 9, Township 32, Range 24 / 6. Fully describe reason ior request: All the lots in this area were conveyed by metes and bounds in violation of Ordinance No.8, requiring that all parcels of land of less than 5 acres must be platted. Building permits have been issued on these lots, thus indicating that the City had accepted them. The Council has suggested a "blanket variance", to eliminate title problems for the residents in the future. (See attached correspondence) 5 7. List names and addresses of all property owners within 3"0 feet of the above described property (necessary only on rezoning and special use applications). Please attach complete list. 8. Attach drawing of the above parcel, showing dimensions, roads, ditches a~ld watercourses, location of pre~ent and proposed buildings, and other pertinent information. ,) Enclose appropriate application iee: A. Rezoning...................................... $100.00 B. Special Use Permit............................. 100.00 G Variance............... (Single family residence) 25.00 (All other requests) . .. .. 50. 00 (waived) 9. (Signature of Applicant) \ , / , , ) L....W orr-Ices WEAVER,TALLE & HERRICK 31e,. (""!>" ""'....'104 5o'RI:[:1' l ANOKA.MINN(SOTA 55303 C........RL[.!. R. w[....v(R H(r:lt-'l....... L.TALLC VlJolGIL c. '-U:.FHHC.t', ROB!:.RT MUNNS WILLI"'''''' K. GOODRICH TI-IOfo'l"'S A. Gr.ooc Jr.,.rRCV P. HIC....EN .. Z 1- :.... 3 bi2'7g UNIV[Fl51'TT ....V[NUe N.C. rRIDLEY. MINNESOTA 55432 571-;3e:.O f"'R5T S,....,.r. BAN.... BUILDING COON RAPIDS. MINN. 55433 7~5-1330 April 3D, 1976 Andover Ci ty Council c/o Pat Lindquist Andover City Hall 1685 N. W. Crosstown Boulevard Andover, Minnesota !Rar Honorable Mayor and Manbers of the City Council: Tms office represents Mr. am V.rs. Steven C. Nokk, Jr. who have contracted to buy a lot presently CMDed by Mr. and Mrs. Van L. Johnson and loea ted at 2857 - l67th Lane N. W., Anoka, and lE,'g-ally des=ibed as follav.'S: / The East 366.7 feet of the \\'est 2250.2 feet of the South 297 feet of the North 957 feet of the Southwest Quarter of Section 9, To.-mship 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota, =ntaining approximately 2-3/4 acres. In examining the Abstract it appears that this lot, which is less than five acres in size, was not separately conveyed prior to the enacbnent of your subdivision ordinance in 1971 limiting conveyances to five acres or more. Tnerefore, title is not marketable. HCM'ever, I understand fran Pat Lindquist that the Council has in the past infomlly approved this metes and J:x:nmds subdivision and that the City will grant building pennits for lots in this subdivision. If this is the case, and if the city would =nfirm this in a letter to me, my clients may be willing to pr=eed with the purp::Jse of property. In that event, they \vill also be fomlly requesting a variance at sane future time so that this prcblem is pennanently resolved. Thank ~u for~Your ~atteJ?iOn to this Yours truly, l/ i ; i / ) 1/lflNt Ij lIll~ Thcmas A. Gedde matter. / TAGjjb \ , ) \ '- "/ , , (i'fY of 1-J./MP5>O VEtil , .hI E hi 0 RAN D U hi To: MAYOR AND COUNCIL Copies To: RllTLDTNG OFFICTAL, ATTORNEY From: CITY CLERK o a \ e : A PR T L ') 0 ] 976 Reference: NON-CONFORMING LOTS ON 167th Lane/168th Lane A matter has come up that should have your immediate attention, and requested as an addition to the agenda for May 4 underltem Sf. In the process of preparing a Title Opinion for a client, Mr. Paul Getty, noted that he could not give a clear title inasmuch as all the lots abutting 16Th Lane N. W. and 168th Lane N. W. in Section 9, are non-conforming per our Ordinance No. 8 requiring the platting of any parcel divisions of less than 5 acres. ... I have researched both the Town Board and Planning and Zoning Commission .. Minutes since 1970, and can find no record of any plat action on these lots. I did find a record of a variance request for lots of less than 2 1/2 acres, due to a surveyor's error; said request made by James Kurth, Surveyor, and was derued (he was advised to straighten the roads to make the lots a minimum 2 1/2 acres.) The actual division of the lots took place in late 1971 or early 1972. There is no record of this area ever being accepted on "metes and bounds" division or any platting presentations. Mayor Schneider was Chairman of the Town Board at that time, so perhaps he could furnish more detail on this matter. At this time it would be necessary for the City Council to grant a "blanket variance" on these lots-if this is not done, we are going to have this problem every time a title opinion is prepared. Building permits were issued on these lots in late 1971 and early 1972, showing this as "Cliffdale Addition"; therefore, I would. assume that this would fall under,the same laws as those goverrung maintenance of roads over a period of time. Mr. Getty's client is to close on the property on May 15, which 1S tn...rc2.son for the urgency of action at this time. \ C2 Patricia K. Lindquist , /' . : ) PLOT 'PLAN ') / , \ \...../ LEG:tA..L l:?E.sc~\ '\?"T\ 0"-1 'Lo-r BLOc.K. 1ff6. 1JV1.- oplH~ IJf1. ofT\-1/? 1J1/1.opnt~ U1/'1.. of,-rtE. NwV4 of ~~ON '), '()W"-l'loH'f '7.'2., C I,y O~, r:z.A~e.. 1.4 - A/.Jol4,4-c ~U~~, Mllv1VE:'OTA~ Cl a '--/ I '-....-/' - CITY 5E\"E.~ d \vt:...TE:~ TO BE . I ~ E.P"-I C \,A..t.J K' e 1;:7IZ A.I t..l t:="1 EL...D "-0 B~ U$ED, , USEO ( 0oo~ fZ.e-AL--r'y t ~op.J~Tr~. - '--./ ( \..J ./ , I Zb~rr. \ <) -- ..... " I f I -I I " \ \ \ Uv. ,c5.r:> I p-=>wc::..rt- A....~c:::., G:_A~ E.. 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