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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100
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Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting
June 3, 2010
7:00 P.M.
1. Call to Order
2. Resident Forum
3. Approval of Minutes (5/20/10)
4. Consider Application for Scheduled Use of Recreational FacilitieslWorld of
Pentecost
5. Update Regarding Dog Park(s)
6. Discuss 2011-2015 Park Capital Improvement Plan, continued
7. Discuss Terrace Park Free Skating Rink
8. Outstanding Items
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10. Chair's Report
11. Adjournment
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1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100
FAX (763) 755-8923. WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN,US
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 3,2010
MINUTES
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was
called to order by Chair Butler on June 3, 2010, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Chair Ted Butler, Bill Hupp, Tony Kowalewski,
Vice Chair
Jim Lindahl, Mark Miskowiec, Shan Ranmath and Shaun
Van Vark.
Commissioners Absent: None.
Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas.
0 RESIDENT FORUM
There were no comments at this time,
Motion by Ranmath, seconded by Miskowiec, to close the resident forum. Motion
carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
There were no changes,
Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Kowalewski, to approve the May 20, 2010 Park
Commission minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 6-ayes, O-nays, I-present
(Ranmath), O-absent vote.
CONSlDERAPPLICATION FOR SCHEDULED USE OF RECREATIONAL
FACILITIESIWORLD OF PENTECOST
Mr, Haas explained that this item is in regard to considering an application for scheduled
use of recreational facilities from the World of Pentecost.
Motion by Ramnath, seconded by Miskowiec, to approve the application as requested by
0 World of Pentecost. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
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UPDATED REGARDING DOG PARK(S)
Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to a request for the City to consider a
location(s) for a dog park possibly at one of the existing parks or other city owned
property.
Mr. Haas reviewed the staff report with the Commission,
DISCUSS 2011-2015 PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, CONTINUED
Mr. Haas explained that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue
discussing the 2011-2015 Parks Capital Improvement Plan (CIP).
Mr, Haas reviewed the staff report with the Commission.
Chair Butler indicated a couple priorities for him are getting something started on the
skate park because he felt they needed to start to move toward a permanent skate park.
He would like to see if it was possible to get work going on the skate park this year so the
equipment could be put out next spring. He stated another priority was looking at
irrigation at some of the fields.
0 Chair Butler stated if they did the skate park with the concrete slab and fencing for
around $57,000 and they looked at setting aside $20,000 to $25,000 a year toward
irrigation that would still allow them in the out years to look at making some
improvements at another park in the range of about $80,000 to $100,000 by 2015.
Commissioner Hupp stated he contacted a local contractor regarding the skate park and
they were figuring an 80x120 slab and it turned out to be about $16,800 in material only
and in talking with the local contractor and he thought the City would get bids in of
around $35,000 to level the slab, formed and laid out without fencing. He thought this
was a good estimate. He thought they should at least get the slab up and a fence up so it
would be locked.
Commissioner Hupp also agreed with Chair Butler on getting ilTigation done over the
next couple of years.
Commissioner Miskowiec asked if liquid asphalt would be an option and what the costs
for that would be. He thought they should check into that. He also wondered ifthey
would get a better deal if they waited towards the end of summer, beginning of fall to
have the concrete poured. Mr. Haas did not think it mattered because contractors are
looking for work.
0 Commissioner Kowalewski thought it was important to try to balance both soccer and
softball/baseball in regards to irrigation. In regards to the skate park most ofthe skate
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parks seen are concrete and with the other type of material being used now they may have
a summer/winter effect and they do not know how it will hold up. He hoped they could
get this item moving forward for the kids.
Commissioner Van Vark stated he agreed with the priorities of the Skate Park and
irrigation. He thought some type of slab, preferably concrete, and the fencing should be
installed as soon as possible. He thought a good sturdy fence would be a key to success.
Commissioner Lindahl thought they were moving in the right direction with irrigation
and needed to look at that as an ongoing effort.
Chair Butler stated in looking at some of the other projects that have been on their list in
the past and taken off because oflack of funding he noticed that the paving of the north
parking lot at Prairie Knoll Park was taken off and he hoped that some of the funds
coming from Clearwire can help deal with the improvements there. He thought that out
in 2014 they might want to look at Timber Trails Park because there is a potential to put
in a ball field fence, playground equipment and shelter for $80,000, if they did that and
earmarked about $20,000 a year for irrigation that would still leave them at the end ofthe
five year period with a balance of about $30,000,
The Commission discussed some projects that were on the CIP for future years.
0 Mr. Haas thought the top priority for the irrigation from North Metro Soccer Association
is Oak Bluff Park. Chair Butler thought the $20,000 would allow the Park and
Recreation Commission to build up a fund and if an association comes to them requesting
a field to be irrigated maybe funds could be matched with them to get it done,
The Commission discussed parks that needed irrigation.
Chair Butler wondered if the Commission would want to put all the money into ilTigation
or do some other projects with it also.
Commissioner Miskowiec asked if they had any projects on hold that would take priority,
He thought the projects that have been on hold should be done first. He stated he would
like to hear from the associations to find out what their priorities are for irrigation.
Chair Butler stated they did get input from the associations when they put the in-igation
list together and they did not get much input except from North Metro Soccer Association
and they wanted to irrigate Oak Bluff Park.
Chair Butler suggested setting aside $20,000 a year for irrigation and asking the
associations for their input on the fields that needed to be done.
0 Chair Butler stated he had in is proposal for the money $80,000 for improvements at
Timber Trails Park for the ball field and playground. Commissioner Ramnath stated he
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would rather see the money used for irrigation. Commissioner Lindahl agreed and stated
without the irrigation up there they did not need to put more money into that park because
it will be a practice facility at best.
Commissioner Kowalewski thought that with lacrosse just starting out and splitting from
a youth program from Blaine and Andover, he thought it was important that it is going to
take time for the youth lacrosse to actually start building up to where the youth football is
at after ten years as well as soccer as they do not have the resources yet.
Commissioner Van Vark wanted to make sure that for the skate park if they were to get a
slab laid and a fence put up for replacing existing equipment, knowing it is on its last leg,
where would potential funding come from to fill the space with replacement equipment.
Chair Butler thought that was a good question and a policy discussion about in terms of
what ofthat is maintenance versus what of that are capital improvements,
Mr. Haas stated the City Council is aware that the equipment will need to be replaced
soon. He stated ifthe Park Commission wants to move forward he would suggest they
put $57,000 towards the fence and concrete and if they want to look at $10,000 to
$15,000 for a piece of new equipment they would need to budget around $70,000 and if
the concrete is less than projected they could get another piece with the savings. They
could move forward with the project in 2011. Chair Butler agreed.
0 Commissioner Van Vark suggested that a handful of new equipment should be enough
because there is limited space at the site. He thought they could replace pieces in the
future, He stated they have also talked about an 80xl20 park and if they built a slab large
enough for other sports they could use it in the future if the skate park did not work out.
The Commission thought that was a good idea.
Chair Butler was supportive of putting aside $70,000 for the skate park. He also thought
they should finish offthe phase II part of Hawkridge Park because that is the trail and
needs approximately $24,000 which would leave them $180,000 to $200,000 for
irrigation projects over the next five years.
Motion by Hupp, seconded by Ramnath, to dedicate $70,000 to the skate park, $100,000
to 2013 for irrigation projects, $100,000 in 2015 for irrigation projects, $24,000 in 2011
for Hawkridge trail projects. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
DISCUSS TERRACE PARK FREE SKATING RINK
Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to Terrace Park skating rink.
Mr, Haas reviewed the information with the Commission.
0 The Commission agreed with Mr. Haas to have an informal neighborhood meeting to see
ifthis rink should be eliminated or kept.
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REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS
Mr. Haas reviewed outstanding items.
CHAIR'S REPORT
Commissioner Kowalewski updated the Commission on Andover sports. He also
congratulated the Class of2010.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Ramnath, seconded by Lindahl, to adjoum the meeting at 8:00 p.m. Motion
caU'ied on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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