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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJuly 15, 2010 C I T Y o F C NDOVE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8.92.3 . WWW,CI.ANDOVER.MN.US Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting July 15, 2010 7:00 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Resident Forum 3. Approval of Minutes (6/3/10) 4. Presentation of Donation/Hawkridge Park/North MetrbSoccer Association 5. Consider Application for Scheduled Use of Recreational FacilitiesfT.C. Dodgers 6. Consider 2010 Fall Football/Soccer Schedule 7. Consider 2010 Fall Football/Baseball/Softball Schedule 8. Update Regarding Dog Park(s) 0 9. Consider Security Light/Hills of Bunker Lake West Park 10. Update of Skate Park/08-08 11. Discuss 2011-2015 Park Capital-Improvement Plan, continued 12.Anoka County Sheriff's Department 2nd Quarterly report 13. Park Dedication Improvement Fund 2nd Quarterly Report/Finance Department 14. Outstanding Items 15. 16. Chair's Report 17. Adjournment 0 !! PARKAND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING-JULY 15,2010 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chair Butler on July 15, 2010, 7:00 p,m" at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota, Commissioners Present: Chair Ted Butler, Bill Hupp, Tony Kowalewski, Vice Chair Jim Lindahl, Mark Miskowiec, Shan Rarnnath and Shaun Van Vark. Commissioners Absent: None. Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Motion by Miskowiec, seconded by Hupp to add Item 13B (Consider Park Dedication Requirements, Woodland Crossing 2nd Addition) to the Agenda. Motion carried on a 7- ayws, O-nays, O-absent vote. RESIDENT FORUM There were no comments at this time. Motion by Ramnath, seconded by Hupp, to close the resident forum. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote, APPROVAL OF MINUTES There were no changes, Motion by Miskowiec, seconded by Rarnnath, to approve the June 3, 2010 Park Commission minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote, PRESENTATION OF DONATIONnIAWKRIDGE PARK/NORTH METRO SOCCER ASSOCIATION Mr, Haas noted this item is in regards to a contribution of$IOO,OOO that will be made by North Metro Soccer Association that will be used to help fund a portion ofthe construction of Phase 1 of Hawkridge Park. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - July 15, 2010 Page 2 Ms, Anderson made a presentation to the Park Commission and presented to the Commission a check for $100,000 for Hawkridge Park Improvements. Members of the North Metro Soccer Association were also present. Chair Butler extended the Commission's thanks for the donation, Motion by Hupp, seconded by Lindahl, to accept the $100,000 donation from North Metro Soccer Association for the reconstruction of Hawkridge Park. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. CONSIDER APPLICATION FOR SCHEDULED USE OF RECREATIONAL FACILITIES/T.e. DODGERS Mr, Haas explained that this item is in regard to considering an application for scheduled use of recreational facilities from the T,C. Dodgers (men's team), Motion by Hupp, seconded by Ramnath, to approve the application as requested by T.C, Dodgers subject to receipt of certificate of insurance and fees. Further Discussion There was none. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote, CONSIDER 2010 FALL FOOTBALL/SOCCER SCHEDULE Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to the 2010 fall soccer/football schedule. Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Van Vark, to approve the 2010 fall soccer/football schedule, Further Discussion There was none, Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote, CONSIDER 2010 FALL FOOTBALL/BASEBALL/SOFTBALL SCHEDULE Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to approving the 20 I 0 fall softballlbaseball/football schedule, Motion by Ramnath, seconded by Miskowiec, to approve the 2010 softballlbaseball/football schedule. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - July 15, 2010 Page 3 Further Discussion There was none. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. UPDATE REGARDING DOG PARK (S) Mr. Haas explained that this item is in regard to a request by a resident for the City to consider a location(s) for a dog park possibly at one ofthe existing parks or other City owned property, Mr, and Mrs, Frisby, 14555 Jay Street NW, updated the Park Commission on how things went at the Andover Fun Fest and the interest generated by the website, They made a presentation on possible locations for the dog park in Andover. Chair Butler thanked the Frisby's for the presentation and thought the options they laid out made a lot of sense. Commissioner Kowalewski stated the only concern he would have is the areas they will be in because the fields are utilized quite a bit during the spring and could be a distraction to the ball players and could become hazardous, He indicated he did like the idea of the dog parks. Commissioner Hupp stated he was very impressed with the presentation, He stated he liked the ideas of some of the parks suggested but the clearing of the park areas concerns him. He thought Eveland Field would be better because they have high grass and would not need to be cleared. He was also concemed about parking issues at the park that would be used. He stated he also liked the web site and it was very informative. Commissioner Lindahl recommended this be moved to the next meeting to allow the Commissioners to review the different parks, CONSIDER SECURITY L1GHT/HILLS OF BUNKER LAKE WEST PARK Mr, Haas explained that the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to consider installing a security light near the existing parking lot and playground equipment for the Hills of Bunker Lake West Park. Chair Butler stated they have taken some of these down in the past year and they need to decide what their standard is for where they are going to put in security lights. Commissioner Ranmath stated the park is quite heavily used and he does see vandalism there and could see the need for it and the reason why the neighbors would want one. It would be a good investment for the park. He thought a security light would deter vandalism and problems. He noted there is increased police patrol in that area. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - July 15, 2010 Page 4 Commissioner Lindahl stated they would need to be cautious on where they place the light because it could be a problem for some residents and not for others. Commissioner Hupp stated he had a hard time justifying the expenditure for one 100-watt bulb security light in the park. It was noted the expense was for the installation of the security light. Commissioner Hupp stated the cost to benefit ratio was not there. Chair Butler stated the $5,000 was not going to determine whether they were going to do another project of not. He wanted to know if installing a security light in the park would deter vandalism and problems and if it would then it would be wise to have one installed. Chair Butler asked if a letter cold be sent to the neighbors by the park for their input regarding this. Mr. Haas indicated they could do this. Commissioner Van Vark thought they could also have a deputy give their professional recommendation on what advantage a light would provide. He also wondered if there was a neighborhood association that could contribute to the cost of the security light. Commissioner Lindahl stated he would like to identify in the letter that vandalism has happened in the park and as parents to watch out for problems. They needed to make the residents more aware. Motion by Miskowiec, seconded by Kowaleski, to table this item for more information to be reviewed at the next Park Commission meeting. Further Discussion There was none, Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. UPDATE OF SKATE PARK/08-08 Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to discuss and consider a location for the skate park that was suggested by the City Council at the recent workshop meeting that was held on June 29th, Chair Butler reviewed the Council Workshop Meeting where this was discussed. He stated the Council did not want to go with the stand alone concrete slab skate park in Sunshine Park as suggested and wanted to utilize the proposed hockey rinks west of City Hall. It was suggested they use asphalt instead of concrete and use one rink in the summer for the skate park and the other one could be used as a roller hockey rink, The Council liked that because it was less expensive and offered the opportunity to use that facility year round. They still would run into the issue of moving the equipment each Spring and Fall. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - July 15, 2010 Page 5 Mr. Haas stated the Council wants the Park Commission to weigh the advantages and disadvantages of both sites and bring back for the Council to review again. He thought this could be discussed at a joint meeting with the Council. Commissioner Kowalewski stated they formed the Skate Park Committee 2.5 years ago to look at the possibility of a skate park. He stated a Task Force was formed and they went through over a year of designing and a budget of $250,000, They presented this to the Council and they turned it down, He stated afterwards they came up with an idea of contacting surrounding communities to put a skate park in Bunker and it was shot down immediately and never looked at. Due to the economy everything was put on hold, He stated the kids are individuals and are determined to keep fit by skateboarding. They have accommodated other individual sports in the City. He did not know why these kids are getting the profile they have gotten, Both his and Commissioner Hupp's son were skateboards and have gone off to college. He stated they needed to stop profiling individual kids who are skateboarding. Let them do their individual thing and give them the skate park. Commissioner Van Vark stated a major concern with being at public skate parks, asphalt surfaces tend to crack, rise and fall and are not good to use and pose danger to the users, He stated if there was a shared facility he would be in favor of concrete, He stated he did not see playground equipment being put in a hockey rink for the summer and moved out in the winter. He did not see other sports equipment at the parks being removed year after year either. The fence serves multiple purposes because when there is a problem it can be shut down until the problem is corrected. The other benefit to it is it keeps the non-skaters out of the park. He stated it is a cost benefit for the number of users and this park does not get used because it is not useable, He thought it is extremely short sided to have an asphalt surface ifthe best solution with the dollars available is some type of shared facility, Long term those dollars are going to be better spent on a concrete surface. Commissioner Hupp stated he was thorougWy disappointed with the Council's decisions regarding this park and felt the skate boarders have been overlooked for years, He stated it was very disappointing to him that this sport has been overlooked while other sports are continually expanding and getting the City's support, Commissioner Miskowiec did not think anyone was trying to "diss" the skateboarders and felt this was a big budget project. He stated this is a lot of money for the economic times. He stated he was not opposed to a skateboard park. He stated he was fuzzy on what the other Commissioner's have planned for the park and did not feel it was portrayed well to him or the City Council. He thought they should move in a direction to see if they can accomplish all the dual-purpose things. Commissioner Ramnath stated he understood that skateboarders are being shot down and thought this was a good plan but maybe they needed to review it and present it to the Council again, He agreed that concrete was the best way to go and that asphalt will break up with the hockey use also. He stated this is something he would like to see happen because there are a lot of skateboarders out there in the City. I Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - July 15, 2010 Page 6 Commissioner Lindahl stated it was great to see everyone passionate about this, He thought one of the things the Park Commissioners need to realize is they see the wants of the residents and the City Council is hearing that they do not want to spend the money. He thought the way they would get this is with a dual use facility and thought that was what they should shoot for. Commissioner Kowalewski stated they did start at $250,000 and have come down to $70,000 which included the fence and some new equipment. Chair Butler thought they needed to get a little more information from the equipment manufactures and understood where the Council was coming from and wanting to use their parks in a more dual purpose way. What concerned him was about the equipment piece and the asphalt versus the concrete piece and thought they needed to get more information. DISCUSS 2011-2015 PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, CONTINUED Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to continue discussing the 2011-2015 Parks Capital Improvement Plan (CIP). ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT 2ND QUARTERLY REPORT Mr. Haas reviewed the Anoka County Sheriffs Department 2nd Quarter report with the Park Commission. PARK DEDICATION IMPROVEMENT FUND 2ND QUARTERLY REPORT/FINANCE DEPARTMENT Mr, Haas reviewed the Park Improvement Fund 2nd Quarter Report with the Park Commission, CONSIDER PARK DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS, WOODLAND CROSSING 2ND ADDITION Mr. Haas explained this item is in regards to considering the park dedication requirements for the proposed preliminary plat for Woodland Estates 5th Addition, Motion by Lindahl, seconded by Ramnath, to approve the park dedication requirements for Woodland Crossing 2nd addition accepting cash in lieu ofland. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote. REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS Mr. Haas reviewed outstanding items, Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - July 15, 2010 Page 7 CHAIR'S REPORT Commissioner Miskowiec thanked North Metro Soccer Association for donating the $100,000 and also good luck to the soccer players in Districts. Commissioner Hupp stated Andover Huskies Youth Hockey Association has a raffle going for a new vehicle. Chair Butler stated the Andover YMCA is going to be celebrating its 5th Anniversary this summer. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Lindahl, seconded by Commissioner Ranmath, to adjourn the regular meeting at 8:35 p.m. Motion carried on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote, Respectfully Submitted, Susan Osbeck, Recording Secretary TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.