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HomeMy WebLinkAboutOctober 7, 2010 C I T Y o F 0 NDOVE 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923 . WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US Regular Park & Recreation Commission Meeting October 7, 2010 7:00 P.M. 1. Call to Order 2. Resident Forum 3. Approval of Minutes (9/16/10) 4. Discuss Skate Park/08-08 5. Consider Amendments to City Code Title 8 Chapter 4 6. Discuss Field Maintenance and Use of Fields by the Associations 7. Update of the 2011-2015 Park CIP/Finance Department 8. Outstanding Items 9. 0 10. Chair's Report 11. Adjournment 0 , 0 1685 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD N.W. . ANDOVER, MINNESOTA 55304. (763) 755-5100 FAX (763) 755-8923' WWW.CI.ANDOVER.MN.US PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - OCTOBER 7,2010 MINUTES The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Park and Recreation Commission was called to order by Chair Butler on October 7,2010,7:00 p.m., at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Chair Ted Butler, Bill Hupp, Vice ChairJim Lindahl, Mark Miskowiec, and Shaun Van Vark. Commissioners Absent: Tony Kowalewski, Shan Rarnnath. Also Present: Assistant Public Works Director, Todd Haas. RESIDENT FORUM There were no comments at this time. 0 Motion by Hupp, seconded by Lindahl, to close the resident forum. Motion can-ied on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Kowalewski, Rarnnath) vote. APPROVAL OF MINUTES There were no changes. Motion by Van Vark, seconded by Miskowiec, to approve the September 16, 2010 Park Commission minutes as presented. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, I-present (Lindahl), 2-absent (Kowalewski, Ranmath) vote. DISCUSS SKATE PARK/08-08 Mr. Haas explained this item is in regard to the skate park. The Park Commission is requested to open discussion with the property owners adjacent to the skate park that have been invited to the meeting to allow input regarding the proposed location of the skate park on the west end of Sunshine Park just north of the small shelter. Commissioner Hupp updated the Commission on the Skate Park Task Force's recent meeting. 0 Mr. Jason Stouder, American Ramp Company, was at the meeting and made a presentation to the Commission. , Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - October 7, 2010 0 Page 2 Chair Butler asked if any residents wanted to make comments. No one wished to address the Commission. Commissioner Van Vark stated the skaters recommended the rails be square instead of round, there would not be a price change for this. Mr. Stouder agreed and stated it is easier to grind on a square rail. Chair Butler asked if the equipment is able to handle rollerblades, bikes and skateboards. Mr. Stouder stated they were. He stated it would be up to the City on what they would allow in the skate park. The Commission discussed with staff the bid process and the timeline for getting the concrete placed along with the process for purchasing the equipment and repairs. CONSIDER AMENDMENT TO CITY CODE TITLE 8 CHAPTER 4 Mr. Haas explained the Park and Recreation Commission is requested to consider if amendments should be made to the current City Code Title 8, Chapter 4 (Park and Recreation Areas Regulations, Violations and Penalties). 0 Mr. Haas reviewed the information with the Commission. Commissioner Hupp did not think that BMX bikes should share the skate park with the skateboarders because of safety issues and possible damage to equipment. He thought it should be up to the skate park task force to decide ifthey want to have split times for the BMX bikes and skaters. Commissioner Miskowiec thought that would be hard to enforce. Commissioner Hupp stated it could be in a policy and posted on a sign. Commissioner Van Vark stated most skate parks do not allow BMX bikes but because this is being paid for by public funds he thought it needed to be looked at and maybe a policy for this. Chair Butler asked ifthe Commission wanted to allow BMX bikes at all or set hours. Commissioner Hupp thought they should start out with not allowing them and see what the users are out there. He stated in the past he has not seen many BMX bikes at the skate park but he has seen rollerbladers. Commissioner Miskowiec did not think a BMX bike needed to have an improved surface and they could ride anywhere. Commissioner Lindahl stated he did not think BMX bikes should be allowed. Commissioner Van Vark stated they should also consider scooters. Commissioner Lindahl did not think an ordinance was necessary for this but a sign 0 should be posted. , Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - October 7, 2010 0 Page 3 Commissioner Lindahl thought under Section K, regarding leashed dogs in parks, they should modify the wording to "unless in a designated dog park area" to accommodate the proposed dog park. Chair Butler stated another question he had was the wording "racing" in play areas and thought the wording should be "no person shall engage in activities that interfere with the general use of designated play areas", and dropping the language about disallowing the racmg. Commissioner Miskowiec asked if they would have different hours for the skate park and the dog park and other parks. Chair Butler suggested they have skate park hours of dawn to dusk. Commission Lindahl thought they could just post the hours and did not need to change the ordinance. Commissioner Miskowiec asked what hours they would have for the dog park hours. The Commission felt normal park hours would apply. Chair Butler hesitated to just post the hours at the skate park because they do have the other park hours listed in the ordinance. Commission Lindahl thought the skate park is in Sunshine Park and they are not changing the park hours, just the use of the equipment. Chair Butler thought they could add into Section H, "use of skate park equipment is 0 prohibited outside ofthe time between dawn and dusk". Commissioner Van Vark thought there should be a designated no smoking area within the skate park. Chair Butler thought this could be a touchy issue and some parks have a "Tobacco Free Policy" but is not an ordinance. He stated Sunshine Park is a Tobacco Free park. He proposed leaving this alone. Commissioner Miskowiec wondered if there is a potential for advertising at the skate park for additional funds. Mr. Haas reviewed the City policy with the Commission and indicated this would not be allowed because it would be exposed to the residential across the street. Chair Butler stated in Section L, delete "racing" and insert "activities". Section K, add appropriate language discussed. Section H, add a sentence "use of skate park equipment is prohibited outside of dawn to dusk". Mr. Haas thought the set of rules currently at the skate park could be placed at the new skate park. He noted he could bring the rules back to the Commission for discussion and review. Chair Butler thought they should add a rule "No bikes allowed within the skate park facility". Motion by Miskowiec, seconded by Lindahl, to table until the next Park Commission 0 meeting. Motion can-ied on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Kowalewski, Rarnnath) vote. Regular Andover Park & Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes - October 7, 2010 0 Page 4 DISCUSS FIELD MAINTENANCE AND USE OF FIELDS BY THE ASSOCIATIONS Mr. Haas stated this item is in regards to discussing the future field maintenance of the cities facilities and the use of fields by the associations. Mr. Haas reviewed the information with the Commission. UPDATE OF THE 2011-2015 PARK CIPIFINANCE DEPARTMENT Mr. Haas noted this is an update for the Park and Recreation Commission in regards to the 2011-2015 Park CIP. Mr. Haas reviewed the 2011-2015 Park CIP with the Commission. UPDATE OF SKATING RINK MAINTENANCE Mr. Haas updated the Commission in regards to the skating rink maintenance. REVIEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS 0 Mr. Haas reviewed outstanding items. CHAIR'S REPORT No Commission report. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Hupp, seconded by Commissioner Lindahl, to adjourn, the regular meeting at 8:00 p.m. Motion can-ied on a 5-ayes, O-nays, 2-absent (Kowalewski, Ranmath) vote. 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