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Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
Meeting Agenda
July 13,2010
Andover City Hall
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes - June 8, 2010
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Variance (10-01) to allow increased height for accessory
structure at 4120 165th Avenue NW.
4. PUBLIC HEARING: Variance (10-02) to allow reduced front yard setback for
garage addition at 16906 Crosstown Boulevard NW.
0 5. PUBLIC HEARING: Comprehensive Plan Amendment (10-01) to change the
land use designation from Agricultural (A) to Urban Residential Low Density
(URL) for Woodland Estates 5th Addition.
6. PUBLIC HEARING: Rezoning (10-01) to change the zoning designation from
Rural Residential (R-1) to Urban Residential (R-4) for Woodland Estates 5th
Addition.
7. PUBLIC HEARING: Preliminary Plat of Woodland Estates 5th Addition, a
single family urban residential development located immediately north of
Woodland Estates 3rd Addition.
8. Other Business
a. August 10th Meeting (Primary)
9. Adjournment
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - JULY 13, 2010
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Acting Chairperson Holthus on July 13,2010,7:00 p.m., at the
Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners present: Chairperson Dean Daninger, Commissioners Michael
Casey, Lynae Gudmundson, and Tim Kirchoff.
Commissioners absent: Commissioners Dennis Cleveland, Valerie Holthus, and
Devon Walton
Also present: City Planner, Cominey Bednarz
Others
0 APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
June 8,2010
Commissioner Gudmundson noted her name was spelled wrong in the minutes except at
the top.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to table the minutes until the next Plmming
Commission meeting. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus,
Walton) vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE (10-01) TO ALLOW INCREASED HEIGHT FOR
ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AT 4120 165TH A VENUE NW.
Mr. Bednarz noted the applicant is seeking a variance to the accessory structure height
limit because the limited height ofthe existing rambler style home would prevent
construction of an accessory structure tall enough to allow the applicant's RV to be
parked within it.
Mr. Bednarz reviewed the information with the Commission.
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0 Commissioner Kirchoff asked what the limit was on accessory structures and did this
affect it. Mr. Bednarz stated due to the size of the lot the size of the structure was not an
Issue.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the public hearing at 7:06 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Chairperson Daninger noted they received two letters from neighbors indicating they
were in favor of this variance.
Mr. Marvin Christianson, 4065 165tl1 Avenue, stated he did not have any objection to the
variance. He noted he wason the Planning Commission for Grow Township in the
sixties. He stated it was extremely important that they follow what is in the zoning
ordinance.
Chairperson Daninger asked how many trees will need to be tal(en out for this accessory
structure and for access to the building. Mr. Dave Heida, 4120 165tl1 Avenue NW, stated
they will be taking out two trees in front of the proposed building and also a number of
trees to the west but he was not sure how many that would be. He noted there will be no
trees taken out from the street view with the exception of the two in front of the building.
0 Commissioner Gudmundson asked how tall the neighbors' pole barn is. Mr. Heida stated
he was not sure.
Chairperson Daninger asked how tall the motor home was. Mr. Heida stated it was close
to twelve feet tall.
Chairman Daninger asked if the increase in height was needed for the edges of the garage
for the slope of the roof. Mr. Heida said that was correct.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:14 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the variance based on the finding that this property will not be out of character of the
other properties in the area and the findings listed in the resolution.
Chairperson Daninger stated he was going to vote to deny this because he understood the
intent of it but he was having a tough time defining the hardship for the variance.
Motion carried on a 3-ayes, I-nays (Daninger), 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton)
vote.
0 Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20,2010 City
Council meeting.
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PUBLIC HEARING: VARIANCE (10-02) TO ALLOW REDUCED FRONT YARD
SETBACK FOR GARA GE ADDITION AT 16906 CROSSTOWN BOULEVARD NW.
Mr. Bednarz noted the applicant is seeking a variance to allow a reduced front yard
setback for a garage addition.
Mr. Bednarz reviewed the information with the Commission.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if Mr. Bednarz knew if the road was going to be upgraded
any time soon. Mr. Bednarz stated there is 120 feet of right-of-way and there is forty feet
between the edge of the road and the property line. Improvements are not within the
County's five year plan. The existing 120 feet of right-of-way is what they will need to
improve the road in the future.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing at 7:20 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Mr. Ralph James, 16906 Crosstown Boulevard NW, stated they have been planning this
for a long time and have recently been able to move forward with this. They have always
planned on an attached curved garage and would add more value than a detached one.
0 He stated they are also asking for this for aesthetics and to add value.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:21 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Commissioner Gudmundson asked if they could add a detached garage. Mr. Bednarz
stated it would be difficult because of where the septic system is located. He showed the
map to the Commission.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if an analysis was done on the other homes along
Crosstown Boulevard that are non-conforming. Mr. Bednarz showed a photo from the
packet showing where the other homes are located along Crosstown Boulevard.
Commissioner Casey thought the hardship was when the County improved the road
previously they made the homes non-conforming. Commissioner Gudmundson stated the
improvements would keep it in conformity with the other homes.
Commissioner Casey asked if there have been any other variances given for other
properties on Crosstown Boulevard. Mr. Bednarz stated he could not find any.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the variance with the hardship being the additional R -0- W for Crosstown Boulevard.
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0 Chairperson Daninger stated it is a good fit but what is guiding him was the City
ordinance.
Motion carried on a 3-ayes, I-nays (Daninger), 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton)
vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20,2010 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT (10-01) TO
CHANGE THE LAND USE DESIGNATION FROM AGRICULTURAL (A) TO
URBAN RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY (URL) FOR WOODLAND ESTATES 5TH
ADDITION.
Mr. Bednarz noted Woodland Development is requesting a land use designation change
to allow the Woodland Estates 5th Addition to move forward.
Mr. Bednarz reviewed the information with the Commission.
Chairperson Daninger indicated the Commission will be discussing Items 5-7 together
with separate motions.
0 Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the public hearing at 7:37 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Mr. Steve Rock, 15173 Verdin St., stated his concern was this plat will create a cut
through for traffic from the neighborhood from Veterans Memorial Blvd. He stated
there is also another concern with vacant lots in his neighborhood, there are three lots to
his south and he has not seen any real effort to sell them and he would like to see more of
an effort to sell those before there is an expansion.
Mr. Cory Herzog, 15185 Verdin, stated his concern was what the timing was of this and
how long will it take for the road to come in along with sewer and gutter to get in and
then how long will be after that to built the homes.
Mr. Byron Westlund, applicant, stated this is a continuation of Verdin Street and the
reason why it was not platted with the third or sixth addition was because this five acre
piece was in Agricultural Preserve and just came out in March. That is the reason why
they are moving forward with it now. It is also a continuation of Verdin Street to COlmect
with Veterans Memorial Blvd.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked if in the past there was a condition on how dirt was moved
around. Mr. Westlund stated they work with tlle City on the hours of operation and they
0 are willing to work with staff on setting conditions.
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0 Chairperson Daninger asked how the variance will affect the tree removal and can they
save more trees ifthey allow the variance to front yard setback. Mr. Westlund stated the
site is mostly void of trees, with the only trees located on the southeast part of the site.
Chairman Daninger stated that one of the reasons for approving the setback variance for
the previous plat was that they were able to save trees with a retaining wall. He added
that he would have difficulty supporting the variance if that was not the case here as well.
Mr. Westlund stated that it would be difficult but he would be willing to work with staff
to save trees in tllat area of the site.
Chairperson Daninger stated at one ofthe Planning Commission meetings he asked Mr.
Westlund if he was finished moving dirt and was told they were and then a bunch of dirt
kept moving in there. Mr. Westlund stated ifhe answered that then he answered it
incorrectly.
Chairperson Daninger stated the problem he has with this is when dirt is moved and not
seeded down it blows all over to the east. He hoped that once the dirt was moved it get
seeded and completed right away so it does not blow arollild. Mr. Westlund stated this is
one of the reasons they are platting this is to complete the grading. As far as timing for
homes to be built there are several steps remaining. He anticipated grading this fall and
utilities in the spring of next year.
0 Mr. Westlund reviewed the process of development he was planning to take along with
agreements for the outlot.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:53 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the proposed Comprehensive Plan Amendment. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-
absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20,2010 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: REZONING (10-01) TO CHANGE THE ZONING
DESIGNATION FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL (R-l) TO URBAN RESIDENTIAL
(R-4) FOR WOODLAND ESTATES 5TH ADDITION.
Mr. Bednarz stated the Planning Commission is asked to review the proposed rezoning to
allow the Woodland Estates 5th Addition to move forward.
This item was discussed with Item 5 above.
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0 Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the public hearing at 7:37 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
See Item 5.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:53 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Gudmundson, to recommend to the City Council
approval ofthe rezoning request. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent
(Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20,2010 City
Council meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING: PRELIMINARY PLAT OF WOODLAND ESTATES 5TH
ADDITION, A SINGLE FAMILY URBAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
LOCATED IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF WOODLAND ESTATES 3RlJ ADDITION.
Mr. Bednarz explained the Plauning Commission is asked to review the proposed
preliminary plat of Woodland Estates 5th Addition.
0 This item was discussed with Item 5 above.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Kirchoff, to open the public hearing at 7:37 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
This public hearing was held with Item 5 above.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to close the public hearing at 7:53 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the preliminary plat including the variance and the finding of the variance is it would be
in character of the neighborhood and maintain continuity including tree preservation and
the grass and sidewalk area and access road. Motion carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-
absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the July 20,2010 City
Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items.
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0 a. August 10th Meeting (Primary)
Mr. Bednarz noted the primary elections will be held on August 10th so the Commission
could schedule their meeting for another night or to stmi at 8:01 p.m. on August 10th.
The Commission thought starting at 8:0 I p.m. on August 10th would not be a problem.
ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Kirchoff, seconded by Casey, to adjourn the meeting at 8:02 p.m. Motion
carried on a 4-ayes, O-nays, 3-absent (Cleveland, Holthus, Walton) vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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