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Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
Meeting Agenda
November 9,2010
Andover City Hall
Council Chambers
7:00 p.m.
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes - September 14,2010
3. PUBLIC HEARING: Consider amendment to liquor licensing requirements of
City Code 3-1 and City Code 12-12.
4. Other Business
5. Adjournment
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING - NOVEMBER 9, 2010
The Regular Bi-Monthly Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was
called to order by Chairperson Daninger on November 9, 2010, 7:00 p.m., at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, Miunesota.
Commissioners present: Chairperson Dean Daninger, Commissioners Michael
Casey, Dennis Cleveland (an-ived at 7:05 p.m.), Lynae
Gudmundson, Valerie Holthus, Tim Kirchoff and Devon
Walton.
Commissioners absent: None.
Also present: City Planner, Courtney Bednarz
Others
0 APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
September 14,2010
Motion by Casey, seconded by Holthus, to approve the September 14,2010 minutes as
presented. Motion carried on a 5-ayes, O-nays, I-absent (Cleveland), I-present (Kirchoff)
vote.
PUBLIC HEARING: CONSIDER AMENDMENT TO LIQUOR LICENSING
REQUIREMENTS OF CITY CODE 3-1 AND CITY CODE 12-12.
Mr. Bednarz reviewed the staff report with the Commission. He stated that he received
two e-mails from residents in opposition to allowing any liquor related business at the 7tl1
Avenue/Valley Drive site as well as at the Crosstown Blvd./Crosstown Drive site.
Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to open the public hearing. Motion can-ied on a
7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Ms. Jamie Kiefert, 13639 Rose Street NW, stated the Serendipity parking lot is a very
small area and thought this was a reason there was a problem with filling the vacancy and
0 her concern was that parking will occur on the neighborhood streets to go to the
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10 restaurant which is what they have done in the past. She thought the traffic will get
worse.
Motion by Casey, seconded by Walton, to close the public hearing. Motion can-ied on a
7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Commissioner Kirchoff asked what the difference was between a neighborhood shopping
district and a shopping center districts. Mr. Bednarz stated many of the same uses are
allowed in both districts. The difference is in the scale of the businesses. The
Neighborhood Business District is intended to serve the needs of the immediate
neighborhood. The Shopping Center District is intended to serve a larger area or the
entire city.
Commissioner Kirchoff understood the reason they had the two different districts and he
was not sure if he was in favor of changing this.
Commissioner Holthus asked what the history was ofthe current setback and was there a
reason why Andover has a more restrictive setback than other cities. Mr. Bednarz
thought the City took the most restrictive setback allowed when the code was made.
Commissioner Walton thought Conditional Use Permits are a good alternative because
0 they allow the City to review the businesses and if there are problems or not. This
provides an opportunity to bring something in to see if a business fits in a neighborhood.
He would like to allow CUP's in the neighborhood district. Chairperson Daninger stated
there is more control with a CUP.
Commissioner Walton stated no matter what business comes in the Serendipity site the
parking will be tight and by changing this it will open the site up to more businesses and
possibilities. Mr. Bednarz stated liquor licenses are reviewed annually and ifthere are
problems could be denied.
Commissioner Kirchoff stated he was not against liquor in a neighborhood but it
concerns him that by lowering the thousand feet would allow more businesses with liquor
near neighborhoods.
Chairperson Daninger asked if the Commission was opposed to changing the distance.
He wondered if anyone thought the distance should still be there. Commissioner Holthus
thought they could take away the distance and have it all conditional which would give
the Council more control and allow different types of businesses to come in to areas that
now they cannot. Commissioners Gudmundson and Kirchoff agreed. Commissioner
Kirchoff stated he was against having any distance in a zone where liquor is permitted
already.
0 Commissioner Gudmundson thought they should use some ofthe wording from the Ham
Lalce Ordinance to allow review on a case by case basis instead of based on distances.
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The consensus of the COlmnission is to have no distance and look at the City of Ham
Lalce wording and incorporate it into the City's Ordinance.
Chairperson Daninger stated he has seen this before where they have gone too far in one
direction, one way or another. He would prefer to have the distance of 400 feet for both
schools and churches. He thought this would allow the need of this site.
Chairperson Daninger wondered if the Commission would like to allow CUP's in the
Neighborhood Business district. The Consensus of the Commission was to allow it.
Staff reviewed with the Commission if there needed to be a definition added for schools.
The Commission did not think they needed to add a definition if they remove the
distance. Commissioner Holthus stated if they would create a definition then the school
in the shopping center district does not qualify as a school because the students that
attend in the space are not, elementary, middle, high school or a charter school.
Chairperson Daninger stated he was fine with the definition because it would be used as a
guiding factor.
Motion by Holthus, seconded by Kirchoff, to recommend to the City Council that there
0 be no distance for schools or churches in the shopping and general business districts and
the same for the neighborhood business district and allowing liquor with a CUP and using
Ham Lake verbiage to allow businesses in the district if it is right for the area. Motion
carried on a 6-ayes, I-nays (Daninger), O-absent vote.
Mr. Bednarz stated that this item would be before the Council at the December 7, 2010
City Council meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS.
Mr. Bednarz updated the Planning Commission on related items.
ADJOURNMENT.
Motion by Walton, seconded by Casey, to adjourn the meeting at 7:56 p.m. Motion
can-ied on a 7-ayes, O-nays, O-absent vote.
Respectfully Submitted,
Sue Osbeck, Recording Secretary
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