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CITY of ANDOVER
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING - March 8, 1977
AGENDA
Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. #4-76-8 Barnes' Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition
Preliminary Plat
2. Comm. #3-77-1 United Power Association Variance and
Special Use Permit Request
3. Comm. #12-76-5 Lot Split Ordinance Discussion
4. Progress Report from Subcommittee for Ordinance Revision
Variance Request - Lot 25, Block 2 Meadowood Plat (Comm. #3-77-2)
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Comm. #3 -77-3
Metropolitan Council Significant Rules
Publish on March 4, 1977
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CITY 01 ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
March 8, 1977
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Don Jacobson on March
8, 1977 at the Andover Community Center, l685 Crosstown Boulevard NW,
Anoka, Minnesota 55303.
Commissioners Present: d'Arcy Bosell, Walter Bruns, James Elling,
John Johanson, Ralph Kishel
Commissioner Absent: Larry Retzlaff
Also Present: Rex Stockwell, Engineer from T.K.D.A.
Minutes
Motion by Commissioner Bruns, seconded by Commissioner Johanson, to
accept the Minutes of February 22, 1977 as submitted. Vote on motion:
yes - Commissioner Bruns, Commissioner Johanson, Commissioner Kishel,
Commissioner Elling, Chairman Jacobson; present - Commissioner Bosell.
Motion carried.
Barnes' Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition Preliminary Plat (Comm. #4-76-8)
Engineer Stockwell read and discussed with the Commissioners his letter
(copy attached) dated February 28, 1977. He also referred to a letter
from Northern Natural Gas Company (copy attached).
The ponding, shown on the plat, is the same size as before but reduced
from 3 ponds to 2 with a little larger capacity. They discussed the
Prairie Road right-of-way. The final plat's legal description will
exclude the legal description for Prairie Road right-of-way. Winslow
Holasek spoke to the Commission about the 50' easement for County
Ditch #20 along the railroad track. Fay Barnes said he was willing
to allow for 100' of easement instead of the 50' as shown.
Discussed the buildability of some of the lots that seem low. Referred
to previous reports on water table, filling of lots, etc.
Motion by Commissioner Kishel, seconded by Commissioner Johanson,
that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City
Council the approval of the Preliminary Plat of Barnes' Rolling Oaks
2nd Addition as revised on the plat submitted March 8, 1977 inasmuch
as it conforms to the Engineering standards which have been reviewed
by the City Engineer and it conforms to the existing City Ordinances
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - March 8, 1977
Page 2
of the City of Andover and the Preliminary Plat has been reviewed and
approved by the Northern Natural Gas Company, the County Engineer
of Anoka County, and the Coon Creek Watershed Board. Subject to two
revisions being made: 1) the drainage easement,'instead of being
50' bordering on Burlington Northern property, it should be 100' so
that in the event of the County Ditch #20 having to be realigned there
would be adequate area to place spoil materials; 2) the provision
that Prairie Road shall be deeded to the City of Andover in most
likelihood prior to the approval of the final plat. Motion carried
unanimously.
United Power Association Variance and Special Use Permit (Comm. #3-77-1)
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Chairman Jacobson advised those present that he is an employee of
United Power Association and, therefore, would not vote on this matter
but would like to Chair the meeting. As there were no objections,
Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing on the Special Use Permit
to construct a transmission substation. The following people were
present: J. Pat Cairns - right-of-way acquisition supervisor for
United Power, Gene Weyling - Electrical Engineer in charge of Substation
Design for United Power, Jim Egan - Environmental Specialist from
United Power, Paul Ruud - Anoka County Highway Engineer, Mr. and Mrs.
Calvin Jellison - the sellers of a portion of their property to United
Power, Ron Roth - adjacent property owner, and Walter Vosica - adjacent
property owner.
Mr. Cairns explained United Power Association's proposal. They are
planning to construct a transmission substation in Section 34, north
of Bunker Lake Boulevard, where they already have a double circuit
230/69 kV transmission line. Also on this property is a double circuit
345 kV transmission line owned by Northern States Power. UPA is proposing
constructing the substation between the 2 lines. This would take
bulk electrical energy from NSP and be tied into the UPA system which
includes the large generating plant in North Dakota. UPA would like
to grade and fill the site this fall and then construction would start
as early as possible in 1978. United Power has to get approval of the
loan from REA. Also, if the Minnesota Environmental Quality Council
decides to review, it takes quite a bit of time. This substation must
be ready for operation for the fall of 1978. He said that they have /' a
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obtal.ned the optl.on to the property l.n Sectl.on , ut were y......v-ce to Co rrec..:Te <to
purchase the land in Section 35, as escribed in the application and 3- 2. 7.-17
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entirely in Section 34. The site is 18 acres, including the 1~ acres
they already own, and it is zoned GB (General Business). They will
landscape the area and plant trees. The estimated cost of construction
and land will be$3,000,000 and estimated property tax would be $120,000.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - March 8, 1977
Page 3
Mr. Ruud explained the County Highway Department's proposed future
plans for upgrading roads in the area. He said they would build Hanson
Boulevard between the United Power and the Northern States Power lines
and perhaps other public utilities could be incorporated into this area.
The existing house within the site, occupied by Mr. and Mrs. Calvin
Jellison, is being purchased by UPA with an option for them to live
there for 5 years. UPA will be buying part of the junkyard property so the
Jellisons will move their business operations further West.
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Questions were asked and discussion ensued on the following sections
of Andover Ordinance 8: 8.18 - Radiation & Electrical Emmissions -
UPA said that there is no radio activity. This wouldn't cause any
interference with radio or TV reception. 8.19 (a) - Noise - Mr. Egan
explained that it would come out to approximately 52 decibels on the
A sca)e. 8.04 - Landscaping - the substation will be fenced and have
J[~a~~ y in the area. The rest of the property will be seeded and
4 to 5 foot trees planted to screen. 8.03 - Screening - Mr. Roth was
concerned about how this would affect residential development of his
property to the East. It was explained that the outer area would be
properly planted with evergreen trees. 8.01 - Exterior storage -
there won't be anything stored at the substation. Storage facilities
for UPA are at Elk River and Grand Rapids. 8.21 - fire hazard - no
fire problem.
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The Minnesota Environmental Quality Council has the authority to approve
all !F.si\iJ/~e~ similar to this and all transmission lines that are
230 ~~nd above. UPA has applied for an exemption to this
approval from that because this site is of local significance only.
It was suggested that it would be a good idea to make Andover approval
subject to the EQC's making this an exempt site.
They were asked if they were going to upgrade or convert the existing
lines, and replied that the 69 kV line will be realigned.
Motion by Commissioner Bruns, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, to close
the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
Commissioner Elling advised those present that he works for Northern
States Power Company and will abstain from voting on the issue.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - March 8, 1977
Page 4
Motion by Commissioner Kishel, seconded by Commissioner Johanson,
that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City
Council that the Special Use Permit requested by United Power Association
on the East 600' of the SE~ of the NE~ of Section 34, Township 32,
Range 24 be granted inasmuch as it conforms with Ordinance 8 - Sections
8.01,8.03,8.04,8.18, and 8.19 (a); and in addition, inasmuch as
its just a local significant impact, it will be subject to the requirements
of the Environmental Quality Council. In addition, the site has met
with the approval of the County Highway Engineer and would lend to the
Northerly extension of Hanson Boulevard for future construction.
Vote on Motion: yes
Commissioner Bosell,
Commissioner Elling.
Commissioner Johanson, Commissioner Bruns,
Commissioner Kishel; present - Chairman Jacobson,
Motion carried.
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Mr. Cairns explained that United Power is requesting a variance to construct
a microwave tower, which would be in the SW corner of the property,
and also the substation will have a structure that is over the height
limitation of Andover Ordinance. The tower's function is to give
communication control to the operation and switching of loads into the
entire UPA system. The guy wires will be within the site and the tower
would be about 150' North of the centerline of Bunker Lake Boulevard.
The tower is about 30" on each of its 3 sides at the base and 150'
high. Discussed:the tower falling (when a tower falls it usally falls
within 60% of it's radius); Ordinance 8 - Section 4.16; the tower
will be west of the existing house; it will be about 160' to the closest
conductor.
Motion by Commissioner Bruns, seconded by Commissioner Johanson,
that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the Andover City
Council approval of the Variance Request for United Power Association
microwave tower on the East 600' of the SE~ of the NE~ of Section 34,
Township 32, Range 24, in that the Variance Request complies with
4.16 and too, there has been no public opposition to such heighth
variance; that it conforms with 8.21 of Ordinance 8 (fire safety and
protection features).
Discussion on heighth of tower and substation and limitations or
restrictions. Motion withdrawn.
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Motion by Commissioner Bruns, seconded by Commissioner Johanson, that
the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the Andover
City Council approval of the Variance request for United Power Association
for variance for heighth limitation not to exceed 130' structure in
the substation and 160' microwave tower on land described as follows:
the East 600' of the SE~ of the NE~ of Section 34, Township 32, Range
24., The reasons being: 1) it conforms with Section 4.16 of the
zoning ordinance and 2) it conforms with 8.21 of the zoning ordinance
and 3) there has been no public opposition.
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Vote on Motion: yes - Commissioner Bosell, Commissioner Bruns, Commissioner
Johanson, Commissioner Kishel; present - Commissioner Elling, Chairman
Jacobson. Motion carried.
This will be on the City Council Agenda on April 5, 1977.
Variance Request on Lot 25, Block 2 Meadowood Plat (Comm. #3-77-2)
The footings for a new home were put in 7' short of the minimum requirement.
The City Council has asked that the Planning and Zoning Commission
expedite this so that the builders can go ahead with construction.
It was an honest mistake and 7' isn't going to make that much difference.
Motion by Commissioner Elling, seconded by Commissioner Bosell, that
the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend approval of the
variance for Lot 25, Block 2, Meadowood Addition for exemption of
Ordinance 8, Section 6.02. It is a variance to the setback which is
33' instead of the 40' that is required.
Discussion on whether to include in the recommendation that it was
an error on the part of the building official of the city.
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Amendment by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Elling,
that the variance is because the violation was not detected early enough
to stop construction.
Amendment and motion carried unanimously. This will be on the City
Council Agenda for March 15, 1977.
Metropolitan Council Significant Rules (Comm. #3-77-3)
The Commission discussed the Met Council public hearing on March 16,
1977 and suggestion was made that a statement or letter be sent stating
Andover's position and/or feelings. They discussed briefly the materials
sent recently from Met Council and trying to set up some better lines
of communication to negotiate with them. The Planning and Zoning
Commission will meet with the City Council at a special meeting on
March 10th to review and discuss the recently issued Metropolitan
Systems Statement.
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Motion by Commissioner Elling, seconded by Commissioner Bruns, that
Chairman Jacobson be authorized to write a letter stating the City of
Andover Planning and Zoning Commission's concern and positions regarding
the matters alleged to be of metropolitan significance in the Metropolitan
Council's statement dated 2-2-77 and furthermore, that the Mayor or
the City Council respond or designate whether they would like to have
an authorized representative at the meeting on Wednesday, March 16, 1977.
Amendment by Commissioner Bruns, seconded by Commissioner Elling, to
have the Mayor or City Council respond accordingly. Amendment and
motion carried unanimously.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - March 8, 1977
Page 6
Progress Report from Subcommittee for Ordinance Revision
Commissioner Elling reported on their meeting of March 5th. They
would like to incorporate all the definitions of the ordinances into
a new Ordinance #1 so that the same definitions could be used in all
the ordinances. They would like City Council opinions and Commission
opinions on Ordinances #6, 24, 25, and 26 at this time.
Adjournment
Motion by Commissioner Elling, seconded by Commissioner Johanson,
to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M.
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TKDA
TOLTZ, KING, DUVALL, ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED
ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS
140B PIONEER BUILDING
SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA
55101 224-7891
TELEX 29-7461
February 28, 1977
RICHARD M. BARKER
OWEN J. BEATTY
OARREL H. BERKOWITZ
ROBERT A. BOYER
JAMES C. BROTEN
ARNDT J. DUVALL
HUGO G. ERICKSON
WILLIAM J, FEYDER
ROYCE B. HANSEN
STEPHEN M. HARTLEY
Wr:STLY J. HENDRICKSON
CLIFFORD E. JOHNSON
DuWAYNE R. KASMA
J. THOMAS KIRK
DAVID W. K1RKWOLD
A. DEAN LUNDHOLM
ROBERT T. MALONEY
DENNIS R. MARTENSON
RICHARD O. MENKEN
LEONARD G. MILLER
WAYNE A OLSON
DUANE T. PREW
RUDOLPH P. RAITOR
ROBERT R. RYDER
W!LLlAM T. SHERIDAN
ABE J. SPERLING
ROnERT G. SPURR
WALTER W. THORPE
JAMES E. VQYEN
NATHAN F. WEBER
Planning and Zoning Commission
Andover, Minnesota
Re:
Barnes Rolling Oaks Second Addition
Preliminary Plat Review
Andover, Minnesota
Commission No. 6223-77
Commission Members:
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We have reviewed the preliminary plat for Barnes' Rol-
ling Oaks Second Addition dated February 22, 1977. The
revised plat includes those revisions required as a result
of discussions at the February 8, 1977 Commission meeting.
CLIFFORD W. HAMBLIN
EDWARD J. BOOTH
The items contained in a letter to the Commission from TKDA dated February 7,
1977 have been completed on the revised plat. Attached to this letter is a
copy of the letter received from Northern Natural Gas Company regarding exca-
vation and filling over gas company easements.
There has been some confusion over the easement requirements for County
Ditch No. 20 along the Burlington Northern right of way. The Coon Creek
Watershed Engineer explained that a 100' easement, 50' either side of the
ditch, is required over the entire length of the ditch within the plat. He
indicated only 50' of easement would be required on this plat along the Bruling-
ton Northern right of way where the ditch falls along the property line or within
the BNR right of way.
The preliminary plat with the recent revisions conforms to the requirements of
existing City ordinances.
We will discuss this letter with the Commission at the March 8, 1977 meeting.
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Yours very truly,
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cc: Andover City Council
Patricia K. Lindquist, Cle.,.k
Mr. William Hawkins, Atty.
TOLTZ, KING, DUVAL;L, ANDERSON
AND ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED
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8120 Penn Avenue South
Minneapolis. Minnesota 55431
Telephone (612) 884,2204
February ll, 1977
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Mr. Rex Stockwell
Village of Andover
l685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W.
Anoka, Minnesota 55303
Re: Barnes Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition to Village of Andover, ~ 25-32-24,
Anoka County, Minnesota
NNG File: 877-l-55
Dear Mr. Stockwell:
A reviewal of the proposed plat of Barnes Rolling Oaks 2nd Addition has been
made by this office involving pipelines over, under and across the platted
tract of land.
Please be advised that all streets, roads, Lots and Blocks conform to our
accepted standards. Also all grading, excavation, or fills are accepted
and approved as per verbal agreements with the owners.
Northern Natural Gas hereby does accept said plat as presented subject to
easements of record and terms contained within.
Very truly yours,
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Land and Property Specialist
cc: H.E. Graalfs
F.E. Bonnstetter
E.J. Hakanson, P.E.--Hakanson-Anderson Assoc.
540 Greenhaven Road
Anoka, Minnesota 55303
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