HomeMy WebLinkAboutJuly 25, 1978
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Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. #4-78-6
2. Comm. #2-78-5
3. Comm. #6-78-9
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4. Comm. #5-78-6
5. Comm. #7-78-2
6. Comm. #7-78-3
7. Comm. #5-78-8
8. Comm. #6-77-6
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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
July 25, 1978
7:30 P.M.
AGENDA
Johnson's Field Preliminary Plat Continued
Public Hearing
Pond View Preliminary Plat
Continued Public Hearing
James Conroy Rezoning (Pond View)
Continued Public Hearing
Pine Hills Addition Preliminary Plat
Continued Public Hearing
Donald Janssen Variance Continued
Derril Burger Sketch Plan
Ordinance #37 Amendment (Amending Mandatory
Septic System Pumping Section)
Discussion of Ordinances 8 and 10 Revision
For publication on July 21, 1978
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
July 25, 1978
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called
to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Larry Retzlaff on July 25, 1978
at the Andover Community Center, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka,
Minnesota
Commissioners Present: d'Arcy Bosell, Walter Dick, Jeannine Pyron
Commissioner Absent: Ralph Kishel
Also Present: Chuck Wetzler, Engineer from T.K,D.A., and others
Minutes of July 11, 1978
Motion by Commissioner Dick, seconded by Commissioner Pyron, that the
Minutes be accepted as read and listed. Motion carried unanimously.
Johnson's Field Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #4-78-6)
Engineer Wetzler discussed with the Commission his letter of 7-21-78
reviewing the revised plat. The new plat shows adequate storm water
storage for anticipated runoff in NW corner of plat. Discussed park
dedication - Linda Johnson said she would still prefer to donate cash
in lieu of land. In discussing a possible septic system for Lots 6
and 7, Block 3, James Kurth (surveyor) said that they may develop these
lots last and, also, in a restudy of the flood plain, the elevations
may come down lower. They could fill the lots even though they are
in a flood plain area. HUD has been requested to do a further flood
plain study.
Chairman Retzlaff asked for public input - no one responded.
Discussed the temporary cul-de-sac shown in Lund's Round Lake Estates
on Guarani Street. It is shown being about 25' North of l47th Avenue.
They mentioned several recent plats where roads had to be connected
with a similar situation. Discussed the possible creating of double
frontage lots in Lund's Round Lake Estates in Block 3 and 4. After
looking at Lund's preliminary plat resubdivision plan, it shows lots
facing the l47th Avenue in Johnson's Field as a possible plan. Discussed
Ordinance 10, Section 9.06 F.
Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Pyron, to close
the public hearing section of the meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - July 25, 1978
Page 2
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Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Pyron, to
recommend to the City Council approval of the Johnson's Field Preliminary
Plat (located at: the S. 66' of the NW~ of the NE~ of Sec. 30, T.
32, R. 24, Anoka County, MN together with: the SW~ of the NE~ of
Sec. 30, T. 32, R. 24, Anoka County, MN except that part platted as
Dehn's Addition and except parcels number 1210, 1350, 1365, 1370,
1380, and 1400 as described and filed in the County Auditor's Office.)
for the following reasons: 1) it is compatible with the Comprehensive
Development Plan of the City. 2) it conforms with the design standards
established by Ordinance 10. 3) there was a public hearing held with
both in favor and against responses being received; especially dealing
with the handling of storm water. 4) there has been a recommendation
from the Park and Recreation Commission for the acceptance of park
land (Lots 6 and 7, Block 3) and money in lieu of land. However, the
developer wishes to donate money to the City and chooses to exercise
that right. 5) the plat has been reviewed by the City Engineer and
found to be satisfactory under the City's Engineering standards.
It should further be considered that the adjacent land (Lund's Round
Lake Estates) in the creation of this plat, becomes the holder of
double frontage lots. However, the future subdivision plans of that
development look for a road to be developed in the location of l47th
Avenue and, therefore, would not create difficulty within the City
(see Ordinance 10, Section 9.06F).
Amendment by Chairman Retzlaff, seconded by Commissioner Bosell, that
the Planning and Zoning Commission recommends that Guarani Street be
extended to connect with Guarani Street in Lund's Round Lake Estates
and said road be constructed. Amendment carried unanimously.
Amendment by Chairman Retzlaff, seconded by Commissioner Pyron, to amend
item #1 and #2 of the main motion to read: 1) the plat is compatible with
the intent of the Comprehensive Development Plan. 2) the plat meets
the provisions of Ordinances 8 and 10. Vote: yes - Chairman Retzlaff,
Commissioner Dick, Commissioner Pyron; present - Commissioner Bosell.
Amendment carried.
Vote on motion: carried unanimously. This will be on the City Council
Agenda on August 15, 1978.
Pond View Preliminary Plat Cont'd Public Hearing (Comm. #2-78-5)
James Conroy Rezoning (Pond View) Cont'd Public Hearing (Comm. #6-78-9)
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No one present - Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner
Dick, to continue the preliminary plat and rezoning. Motion carried
unanimously.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - July 25, 1978
Page 3
Donald Janssen Variance Continued (Comm. #7-78-2)
Chairman Retzlaff had talked to City Attorney Ed Babcock about possible
legal action that could be taken in the case and was advised that there was
no legal action to be taken on this small conveyance. He thought that
legal action would be inappropriate and would not be worth the City's
time or expense to pursue it.
Dennis Johnson was present to answer questions about the variance
requested. He lives on Lot 9. Mr. Janssen lived on Lot 7 but also
owned Lot 8 (Cedar Crest Estates) a designated unbuildable lot. Mr.
Janssen sold the house on Lot 7 and the new buyers can't get a clear
title. Mr. Johnson told of their misunderstanding about the location
of the lot lines. Discussed past recommendation on conveying land by
variance to fix building mistakes. Discussed Ordinance 10, Section
14.02 and, also, altering a plat (Cedar Crest Estates). The septic
system would be about 6' from the lot line with this variance.
Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Pyron, to
make a recommendation to the City Council for approval of the Donald
H. Janssen Variance request on Lot 8, Block 3, Cedar Crest Estates
to move the rear lot West point 13.15' East, not moving front North
point, under Ordinance 10, Section 14.02 for the following reasons:
1) at the time of the conveyance of this property in 1974 there was
an assumption made by all parties as to the property line and, in so
assuming, allowed the drainage field for Lot 9 to be located on Lot
8. The approval of this variance would place the entire drainage
system in the hands of the property owner of Lot 9 and, therefore,
would clear title to the property for further conveyance. 2) a hardship
would be created by not allowing this variance to be granted. 3)
it will not adversely affect the existing or potential use of the
adjacent land, since Lot 8 of this subdivision is an unbuildable
lot of record.
Motion carried unanimously. This will be on the City Council Agenda
on August 15, 1978.
Pine Hills Addition Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #5-78-6)
Tom O'Malley, surveyor from Caine & O'Malley, presented new drawings
of the proposed preliminary plat to the Commission and Engineer Wetzler.
All the lots are now 2~ acres or more. All of the lots facing l6lst
are 326' wide, otherwise they all have 345' or more.
Chairman Retzlaff called for public input - no one responded.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - July 25, 1978
Page 4
Those present thought this plat looked good but would like further
time to review it.
Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Pyron, to
continue the public hearing to August 8th. Motion carried unanimously.
Derril Burger Sketch Plan (Comm. #7-78-3)
Mr. Burger's plat shows about 123 acres, 36 lots, 12.3 acres of park
land and is located in Sections 18 and 19, West of 7th Avenue. The
R-2 zoning of this property would normally allow I-acre lots but,
because of the current moratorium ordinance, the lots are 2~-acres
or more. Since the property fronts on the Rum River, The Minnesota
Department of Natural Resources proposed '~ild, Scenic and Recreational
Rivers Act" will have to be considered. The City hasn't adopted or
approved it yet however. He was concerned about getting partially
through the platting process and having the DNR's proposed management
plan adopted requiring minimum lot size of 4 acres. The Commission
advised him that they must review the plat according to existing ordinances.
There is a problem with some of the lot frontages that don't meet
the minimum requirements. He was advised to do some work on the lot
widths and then proceed with the preliminary plat.
Harvey Kadlec Revised Sketch Plan (Comm. #5-78-3)
Mr. Kadlec showed the Commission his new drawing showing 13 lots with
R-l zoning in Section 9, between Round Lake Boulevard and White Oaks
Country Estates. Some of the lots are less than 2~ acres. There is
a problem with the lots on the cul-de-sac regarding frontage. In order
to save some trees he put a curve in the road which is the reason for
the slight problem with lot sizes and frontages.
Mr. Kadlec was advised that the plat looks good.
Ordinance #37 Amendment (Comm. #5-78-8)
Chairman Retzlaff had asked Attorney Babcock for an
proposed amendment and no reply has been received.
the next Planning and Zoning Commission agenda.
op~n~on on the
This will be on
Discussion of Ordinances 8 and 10 Revision (Comm. #6-77-6)
Chairman Retzlaff stated that the Ordinance revision and the Comprehensive
Plan update could be done by Midwest Planning for about $8,200. The
Commission had agreed that they didn't have the time to do the vast
amount of work necessary.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - July 25, 1978
Page 5
Motion by Chairman Retzlaff, seconded by Commissioner Dick, that the
Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council joining
in a contract with the firm of Midwest Planning for the purpose of updating
Andover's Comprehensive Development Plan, in accordance with the Metropolitan
Council's guidelines, for a sum of money not to exceed $9,000.
Motion carried unanimously.
Ad iournment
Motion by Commissioner Dick, seconded by Commissioner Pyron, to adjourn.
Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:20 P.M.
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Deloris J. H son
Commission Clerk