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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 27, 1978 o o o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION Regular Meeting - February 27, 1978 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes 1. Comm. #2-78-2 2. Comm. #2-78-3 3. Comm. #1-78-7 4. Comm. #2-78-4 5. Comm. #2-78-5 o AGENDA Gloria Aylmer Sketch Plan Ron Smith - Street Locations Fox Meadows Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Gerald Flor/United Power Association Lot Split James Conroy Sketch Plan For publication on February 24, 1978 o o o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o f\ U REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING February 27, 1978 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Larry Retzlaff on February 27, 1978 at the Andover Community Center, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota 55303. Commissioners Present: d'Arcy Bosell, James Elling, Ralph Kishel, Jeannine Pyron Commissioner Absent: Gary Schwendinger Also Present: Rex Stockwell, City Engineer from T.K.D.A., and others Minutes of February 27. 1978 Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Pyro~ to approve ,--, the Minutes of 2-14-78. Motion carried unanimously. , ) ''--../ Cunningham Addition Preliminary Plat (Comm. #7-77-4) Jim Hane, developer, gave the Commission revised copies of his plat. Rex Stockwell said that in his review, he noted that the 20' radius on the corners of Crocus Street have still not been shown. Also, the minimum first-floor elevations have still not been corrected. The lots to have corrections made are 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12. The Flood Plain Boundaries are not marked on the plat. After the plat is graded, the flood plain won't be a problem however. On the street sections, Engineer Stockwell stated that it shows a 4" crown and it should be 6". Also, the 3" topsoil and seeding on the boulevards should be noted. Mr. Stockwell said that Israelson & Associates, the Engineering firm for the Coon Creek Watershed Board, has indicated verbally the approval of this plat's water runoff drainage into the ditch. He will ask for a letter stating that approval. In summary, the items to be corrected and/or shown on the plat are: 1) Flood Plain Boundaries; 2) 20' radius on Crocus Street and l40th Circle; 3) street sections; and 4) minimum first-floor elevations. " -, '0 The Preliminary Plat will be on the March 14, 1978 Planning and Zoning Commission Agenda. : ) , \ 'J o u ) Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 27, 1978 Page 2 Gloria Aylmer Revised Sketch Plan (Comm. #2-78-2) Gloria Aylmer had redrawn her sketch plan but there were a few items that still needed altering. Those were: corner lots have to be 15' wider; the streets have to be wider than 50'; the lots that back on County Road 7 are l4l' deep, the Ordinance minimum is 150' for R-2 Zoning with an additional 10' required on a County Road. Discussed alternatives possible for dividing the property, such as 3 cul-de-sacs, fewer lots, etc. She will perhaps redraw her sketch and come back for the Commission's review. Fox Meadows Preliminary Plat Public Hearing (Comm. #1-78-7) Chairman Retzlaff opened the public hearing. The Commission and Lawrence Carlson, developer of the property, talked about recent City Council action granting variances on the Hawk Ridge plat, recent discussion regarding minimum lot frontages in R-l zoning - 300' versus 330', etc. Chairman Retzlaff will contact City Attorney. Ed Babcock for a legal \ opinion on the 3-29-77 letter written by Attorney William Hawkins. .J Some of the lots in Fox Meadows have widths of 300'. Mr. Carlson explained that he did not revise the plat immediately because he wanted an opinion from the Planning and Zoning Commission on the streets he has shown. Fox and Dakota Streets are longer than the maximum block length requirement of 1320'. There is a wooded ravine between the 2 proposed streets and also a gas pipeline goes through the plat. Because of the ravine, it is not practical to reduce the blocks below 1320'. Both Mr. Carlson and Rex Stockwell thought those characteristics would make this the best possible arrangement of streets. When redrawing, they will move Enchanted Drive to the South because the road cannot be constructed on the pipeline; it can cross it however. It was suggested that because the lots on the cul-de-sac of l57th Lane don't meet frontage requirements that one lot plus the cul-de-sac be eliminated. Mr. Stockwell reviewed his letter of 2-23-78 (copy attached) with the Commission and Mr. Carlson. Mr. Carlson stated they would do everything in Rex's letter except, since the Engineer and the Commission agreed they were acceptable, the block length on Fox and Dakota Streets. Discussed 300' versus 330' lot frontages. Mr. Carlson was advised that he could change the 300' lots to 330' in order to expidite the plat or wait to see what the current City Attorney's opinion might be. \ ) Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Elling, to continue the public hearing until March 14th. Motion carried unanimously. \ , ) \ ,.J u u , ) Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 27, 1978 Page 3 Ron Smith - Street Location (Comm. #2-78-3) Mr. Smith has been in the process of platting land in Section 18. The plat was known as Ogema Estates. He now is going to divide the land by metes and bounds and needs approval from the City on the road he will be putting in. Engineer Stockwell has asked Mr. Smith to appear before the Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council for approval on the location of the street. It was agreed that the street should be moved away from the curve at the intersection of l65th Avenue and 7th Avenue. It was suggested to have the road 300' East of the West property line on the North end. The width of the property on l59th Avenue is about 212' so he will perhaps need a variance on this one lot in order to get a building permit. " , ) The Commission discussed the fact that this would prohibit extension of the Stenquist Addition, the cemetery and possible park land will not be dedicated to the City since this is not being platted, and whether a motion of recommendation is needed to go to the City Council. The Commission approved the street location if the North entrance is moved to the West. This will be on the City Council Agenda on March 7th. Gerald Flor/United Power Association Lot Split (Comm. #2-78-4) Mr. and Mrs. Gerald Flor, Ken Wahl of United Power Association and Al Schrupp of Anoka Electric were present for the lot split request. The existing house will be left with about 2.54 acres and the United Power Association lot will be about 7~ acres. The current zoning is R-1. Motion by Commissioner Elling, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, that the Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the Gerald Flor lot split (Plat 65904, Parcel 6900 legal description attached) granting the lot split under Ordinance 40A Section 1 (c); there was no public opposition and it is not detrimental to the area. Motion carried unanimously. This will be on the City Council Agenda on March 7th along with the United Power Association Special Use Permit. \ / ~ ) '\ ) ~ ) ~ '.-/ . , '0 o u Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes - February 27, 1978 Page 4 James Conroy Sketch Plan (Pond View) (Comm. #2-78-5) Mr. Conroy plans to plat 3.6 acres in Section 33 with R-4 Zoning into 7 lots on Crosstown Boulevard. This is not all the contiguous land that he owns. The 30' service road needs to be 40' per ordinance. No sewer stubs were put in, the line is on the other side of Crosstown so stubs will have to be run under the road. Discussed Ordinance 10 Section 9.06 A (1) and according to rough estimate it appears only 6_lots will be allowed. Mr. Conroy will check with his surveyor to see how many lots can be put in this property. Discussed Ordinance 10 Section 9.01 a and b in relation to contiguous land being platted. Mr. Conroy will be back with a revised sketch plan on March 14th at the next Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting. Junkyard Ordinance (Comm. #l-78-3) The Commissioners reviewed a proposed junkyard ordinance and after making a few changes, asked that it be retyped and a copy of it be sent to City Attorney Ed Babcock for his review and comments by March 14th. Adiournment Motion by Commissioner Elling, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 11:15 P.M. (~).~~ ~ c;./o-... = Deloris J. H son Commission Clerk :J ~J <J u :- \ '0 o u ..... - - --TKDA TOlTZ, KING, DUVAll, ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED ENGINEERS ARCHITECTS PLANNERS 1408 PIONEER 8UILOING SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA 55101 TELEX 29-7461 612-224-7891 February 23, 1978 Planning and Zoning Commission Andover, Minnesota Re: Fox Meadows Preliminary Plat Review Commission No. 6223-78 Commission 1vlembers: We have reviewed the preliminary plat for proposed Fox Meadows located east of County Road No. 58 and north of County state Aid Highway No. 20. The proposed development consists of 35 single family residential lots of 2.5 acre size surrounded by R-l, R-2 and R-3 developments. The natural characteristics of this property includes open land, wooded areas, wet lands, and a moderately rolling terrain. The follooM ng are our comments on the preliminary plat designand information as it relates to applicable City Ordinances: A. The following information should be included: 1. Existing zoning classification of Alladin Acres (R-3) and the area east of the plat south of the 1/16 line (R-.2). 2. Width of the existing pipeline easement. 3. Type of surfacing of Enchanted Drive cul-de-sac. 4. Location of existing electric and telephone for Alladin Acres and unplatted area east of the plat and telephone location along County roadways. 5. Bench mark used for topographic survey. 6. Square footage of all lots if deemed pertinent. The approximate acreage of each lot has been shown. ARNOT J. OUVALl.p~ESIDENT ROBERT R. RYDER, V. P.-TREAS. WAYNE A. OLSON, \/. P'-SEC. WALTER W. THORPE,v. P. OuWAYNE R. KASMA, V. P, DUANE T. PREW. v. P. JAMES E. VOYEN. v. p. RICHARD M. BARKER OWEN ,J. BEATTY CARREL H. BERKOWITZ ROBERT A. BOYER ..JAMES C. BROTEN WILLIAM J. FEYDER ROYCE B. HANSEN STEPHEN M.HARTlEY WESTlY J. HENDRICKSON CLIF"FORO E. JOHNSON J. THOMAS KIRK DAVID W. KIRKWOlD A. DEAN LUNDHOLM ROBERT T. MALONEY DENNIS R. MARTENSON RICHARD O. MENKEN LEONARD G. MILLER RUDOLPH p. RAITOR WILLIAM T. SHERIDAN .JAMES A. SKARET ABE J. SPERLING ROBERT G. SPURR NATHAN F, WEBER " ~) :-.J () ,. , u (J .... . .. Andover Commission Members February 23, 1978 Page Two 7. Notation that all intersection radii are 20 feet. B. The following are general corrun.~nts on the preliminary plat design: 1. , 'i , The proposed half right-of-way for County Road No. 58 is 60 feet. It is our understanding that the developer has obtained written approval for this width from the Anoka County Highway Engineer. 2. Proposed 158th Lane N. W. has not been named correctly. To be consistent with the Community street plan, this street would be named 160th Lane N. W. 3. C-.J Lot 2, Block I is designed with double frontage. This arrangement is allowable by Ordinance lOin cas es where the back of. the lot is along arterial street. The depth of the lot is well in excess of the minimum and would provide room for screening by a future property owner. 4. Block lengths are in excess of 1320 feet. This property would be difficult to divide with blocks lengths of les s than 1320 feet because of existing natural features. 5. . 1 j I I I , , I 6. 7. ,-J Soil borings and percolation tests have not been provided. The loca- tions for these tests will be reviewed with the developer. Minimum basement floor elevations are based on this information and cannot be reviewed in detail until the soils information is available. Proposed street profiles have been prepared but not made available for review. Necessary utility easements are closely related to street and drainage design and cannot be thoroughly examined without street profiles. The Planning and Zoning Commission m'..lst review the required lot width for 2t acre lot size. Some confusion exists on the requirement of minimum width whether 300 feet or 330 feet Several lots within the subdivision would not mect either width requiremcnt as defined by City Ordinance; particularly corncr lots. This item has been addressed on previous plats where the lot front has been specifically noted by the Commission and City Council. Lot 8, Block 4 has a width of only 210 feet at the set back line and is not considered a corner lot. .' ) '-../ / , o :J o , '\ ; )' "'-'-- u C_) .... . .. It Andover Commission Members February 23, 1978 Page Three 8. In our opiniOn, the developer has made the best use of the natural features of the property with the proposed design layout of the street system. Individual lots could be redesigned as required by the Commission without redesign of the street system with the exception of l57th Lane N. W. This cul-de-sac could be eliminated along with one lot to obtain proper frontage for lots 9 and 7. 9. The City should consider the purchase of additional right-of-way for Enchanted Drive Cul-de-Sac. It is our recom'TIendation that right-of-way be purchased to allow for the continuation of the street system from the proposed development to the adjacent development east of the plat. We will review this letter with the Commission at the February 27, 1978 meeting. Very truly yours, TOLTZ, KING, DUVALL, ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES, INCORPORATED edt~drL Rex(W. Stockwell RWS:mr u i' ) I '\ '..J o .' '\ , '-../ Legal Description of Plat 65904, Parcel 6900: The South 218' of the SE~ of SW~, Section 4, Township 32, Range 24, as measured along the West line of said SE~ of SW~, and all that part of the South 198' of the SW~ of the SW~ of Section 4, Township 32, Range 24, as measured along the West line of said SW~ of SW~ lying Easterly of the following described tract: that part of the SW~ of Section 4, Township 32, Range 24 that is described as follows: Commencing at a point on the South line of said SW~ that is 83' East of the SW corner thereof; and proceeding thence North and parallel to the West line thereof for a distance of 198'; and proceeding thence East and parallel to the South line there of for a distance of 440'; and proceeding thence South and parallel to said West line to the South line of the said SW~; and proceeding thence West on said South line to the point of commencement (Subject to easement to Rural Cooperative Power Association over the South 50'). , '_.J ~)