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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting - February 14, 1978
AGENDA
Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. 1F7-77-4 Cunningham Addition Preliminary Plat
2. Comm. 1f3-75-2 Ogema Estates Revised Sketch Plan
3. Comm. 1F2-78-l Trowbridge Sketch Plan
4. Comm. 1f2-78-2 Gloria Aylmer Sketch Plan
5. Comm. #6-77-6 Review of Ordinances
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
February 14, 1978
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called
to order at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Larry Retzlaff on February 14, 1978
at the Andover Community Center, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka,
Minnesota 55303.
Commissioners Present: d'Arcy Bosell, James Elling, Ralph Kishel,
Jeannine Pyron
Commissioner Absent: Gary Schwendinger
Also Present: Rex Stockwell, City Engineer from T.K.D.A., and others
Minutes of January 24, 1978
Correction: page 5 - 2nd paragraph - change "The Commissioners all
agreed " to "Most of the Commissioners agreed. "
Motion by Commissioner Bosell, seconded by Commissioner Elling, to
approve the Minutes as amended. Motion carried unanimously.
Cunningham Addition Preliminary Plat (Comm. #7-77-4)
The Commissioners had received a letter (copy attached) dated 2-9-78
from Rex Stockwell of T.K.D.A. They discussed Ordinance 10 Sections
9.03 (p), 8.02 (f), 8.03 (c) and 8.04 (f) in relation to the plat.
Also, that Lot 13 indicates 13,300 square feet of area but that isn't
accurate; Crocus Street is indicated on the plat as "under construction"
which is no longer true. Mr. Stockwell explained that the requirement
of 8.03 (c) is not met in this type of plat until after preliminary
approval because of the expense involved to the developer.
The Coon Creek Watershed Board has sent a letter indicating their approval
of the plat with the 50' easement along the ditch but the letter states
nothing about approval of storm sewer drainage into the ditch. Mr.
Stockwell said that when he presented the Northwoods Addition recently
to the Watershed Board for approval of storm sewer drainage, he also
included the possible additions of Cunningham and Creekside; therefore
Mr. Stockwell assumed the Watershed Board had agreed to the Cunningham
Addition runoff. He will contact the Engineering firm for the Coon
Creek Watershed Board to get clarification and/or an opinion in writing.
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Minutes - February 14, 1978
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The following items should be corrected: (1) type of surfacing and width
of nearby streets should be shown (Ordinance 10, Sec. 8.02 (f)). (2)
Crocus Street is shown on the plat as "Under Construction" with a
gravel surface. (3) The square footage on Lot 13 should be changed.
(4) Flood plain boundaries (Ordinance 10, Section 8.04 (f)). (5)
Minimum basement elevations should be corrected.
The Preliminary Plat of Cunningham Addition will be placed on the
Agenda for continued discussion on February 27, 1978.
Ogema Estates Revised Sketch Plan (Comm. #3-75-2)
Ron Smith, the developer of Ogema Estates, presented a revised sketch
plan to the Commission showing 129.2 acres with 37 lots.
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Some of the suggested corrections to be made are: length of blocks -
Section 9.05 (a) of Ordinance 10 requires 1320' maximum length; Lot
4, Block 6 and Lots 3 and 1 of Block 5 are undersized; radius on cul-
de-sacs; Section 9.03 (e) - street jogs shall be 150+'; corner lots
must be 15 feet wider than interior lots; Section 9.06 (f) double frontage
lots; no dimension shown on South line of Lot 7, Block 5; l59th Avenue
is indicated on the sketch as "Town Road".
The Commissioners and Mr. Smith discussed 300' versus 330' m~n~mum
lot frontages required and also some of the alternatives in planning
the roads in the plat.
Mr. Smith will attempt to redraw the sketch of the property to meet the
requirements of Ordinance 10 and come back with another drawing.
Gloria Aylmer Sketch Plan (Comm. #2-78-2)
Gloria Aylmer wishes to divide her 20-acre parcel of land, with R-2
zoning, in Section 30, between 7th Avenue and Lipan Street, into 15
lots. The Commission noted that the streets should be 66' instead
of the 50' as she has shown. Discussed Section 9.03 (g) - radius
on the cul-de-sacs; l45th Lane should be aligned with the l45th Lane
in Meadowood; corner lots must be 15' wider; double frontage lots.
She was advised of the park dedication requirement.
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Minutes - February 14, 1978
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Trowbridge Sketch Plan (Comm. #2-78-1)
Mr. Trowbridge called and said his sketch wasn't ready and he will
call later to be on the Planning and Zoning Commission Agenda.
Review of Ordinances (Comm. #6-77-6)
The Commission briefly discussed the junkyard ordinance they are proposing,
the December 20, 1977 City Council Minutes, whether any junkyard licenses
have been issued,_and who has applied for a license.
It was also noted that the 7th Day Adventist Church is operating a
school without a special use permit.
Adiournment
Motion by Commissioner Elling, seconded by Commissioner Kishel, to adjourn.
Motion carried unanimously.
" Meeting adjourned at 9:30 P.M.
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TOLTZ. KING, DUVALL, ANDERSON AND ASSOCIATES INCORPORATED
ENGINEERS
ARCHITECTS
PLANNERS
1408 PIONEER BUILDING
SAINT PAUL, MINNESOTA 55101
612-224-7S91
TELEX 29-7461
February 9, 1978
Planning and Zoning Commission
Andover, Minnesota
Re:
Proposed Cunningham Addition
Preliminary Plat Review
Commission No. 6223-78
Commission Members:
The developer for Cunningham Addition has submitted a revised preliminary
.plat in accordance with the January 10, 1978 meeting. The revised plat
has resulted in a new street arrangement and a decrease in the number of lots
to fuirteen. Other changes include:
1.
Average lot size is in excess of 15,000 square feet.
2. Twenty foot radii have been included at the street intersection
and cul-de-sac.
3. Right-of- Way width is 60 feet.
4. Lot depth of all lots is 130 feet minimum.
5. Utility and drainage easements have been provided along common
lot lines of lots 1, 2 and 3 and 4, 6 and 7; 10 and 11; 11, 12
and 13; 10 and 13; and along the back line of lots 9 and 10.
These easements were required for proper drainage control.
6. Street jog between 140th Lane N. W. and proposed 140th Circle
N. W. is in excess of 150 feet.
7. A separate surface drainage plan has been provided.
8. Coon Creek Watershed has responded by letter. (Copy attached. )
9. Corner lots are platted
width of 85 feet.
15 feet wider than the minimum required
ARNDT .J. DUVALL. PReSIDENT
ROBERT R. RYDER. V. P.-TREAS.
WAYNE A.OLSON, V. P.-SEC.
WALTER W. THORPE, v. P.
DuWAYNE R. KASMA. v. P.
DUANE T. PREW, v. p.
.JA~ES E. VOYEN, v. P,
RICHARD M. BARKER
OWEN .J. BEATTY
CARREL H. BERKOWITZ
ROBERT A. BOYER
.JAMES C. BROTEN
WILLIAM .J. FEYOER
ROYCE B. HANSEN
STEPHEN M. HARTLEY
WESTlY J. HENDRICKSON
CLIFFORD E. JOHNSON
J. THOMAS KIRK
DAVID W. KIRKWOLD
A. DEAN LUNDHOLM
ROBERT T. MALONEY
DENNIS R. MARTENSON
RICHARD D. MENKEN
LEONARD G, MILLER
RUDOLPH P. RAITOR
WILLIAM T. SHERIDAN
.JAMES A.SKARET
ABE J. SPERLING
ROBERT G. SPURR
NATHAN F. WEBER
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10. A future street profile has been provided and conform to City
standards.
11. The grading plan includes the addition of fill material to an
elevation above the 100 year flood level.
In addition to the above changes, the developer has provided five soil borings
at locations shown on the soils map. The soils report outlines problem areas and
suggests construction practices for homesites on several of the lots. Lots
8 and 9 and possibly 7 and 10 will require substantial peat removal while
lot 1 will require some removal of black clay loam below any future footings.
It is suggested that an additional boring be required on each of these lots just
prior to cons truction of a res idential building.
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The soil borings also indicate the ground water level at each location. City
ordinance requires that the minimuJTI basement floor elevation be at least
3 feet above the ground water level and the first floor elevation be at least
1. 5 feet above the street elevation. To conform to these requirements, the
following minimum elevations are suggested:
Minimum
Basement Floor Elevation
Minimum
First Floor Elevation
Lot
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5
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8
9
10
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865.0
865.0
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865.0
866.0
866.0
866.0
866.0
866.0
866.0
866.0
866.0
867.0
869.0
870.0
870.5
873.5
873. 5
872.0
871. 5
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With the exception of revisions to the minimum basement and first floor elevation,
the preliminary plat appears to conform to the minimum engineering and
design standards of the City.
This letter will be reviewed with the Commission at the February 14, 1978
meeting.
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Very truly yours,
TOLTZ, KING, DUVALL, ANDERSON
AND ASSOCIA TES, INCORPORA TED
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February 6. 1978
Br.Jim Hane
3543 Buchanan Street Northeast
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55418
'Re: Cunningham Addition (Our File CC 78-1)
Dear llr. Hane:
The Coon Creek 4atershed Board approved the plat "Cunningham Addition" at
their regular meeting held on January 23, 1978, as resubmitted showing a
50 ft. easement along the county ditch through the entire development.
Could you please send me another copy of the plat?
Sincerely,
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cc: Mr. Loren Hentges, Pres.
Mr. A1 Sannerud, Secretary
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2665 4th Avenue North Anoka. Minnesota 55303 612/427-5860
February 6, 1978
Mr. Jim Hane
2534 James Ave. No.
Minneapolis, MN 55411
Dear Mr. Hane:
Re: Proposed Cunningham Addition
File: E358.02
The logs of five testholes we have made at the proposed Cunningham
Addition are as follows:
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Testhole No. 1
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1.5' - 2.0'
2.0' - 5.0'
5.0' - 5.5'
5.5' - 7.0'
7.0' 7.3'
7.3' - 9.5'
Testhole No. 2
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2.0' - 7.5'
7.5' - 9.0'
Testhole No. 3
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2.0' - 2.5'
2.5' - 3.0'
3.0' - 4.5'
4.5' - 7.0'
7.0' - 9.0'
9.0' -14.0'
Ground Elevation 867.9 feet
Black organic loam
Grey-brown fine to medium sand, dry
Grey-brown fine to medium sand, dry
Black clay loam
Grey fine to coarse sand; wet
Grey clay, silt .
Grey fine to coarse sand, wet
Ground water at.6.0' or elevation 861.9 feet
Ground Elevation 869.9 feet
Brown loamy fine to medium sand
Grey silty clay
Grey fine to medium sand, wet
Ground water at 7.9' or elevation 862.0 feet
Ground Elevation 871.3 feet
Brown loamy fine to medium sand
Black clay loam
Grey-brown loan~ sand
Grey-brown loamy clay
Grey silty clay
Grey fine to medium sand, moist
Grey clay
Ground water at 8.4' or elevation 862.9 feet
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Dark brown sandy loam
Weakly mottled grey and grey-brown fine to medium sand
Grey brown sandy clay loam
Grey fine to ~edium sand, wet
Ground water-caved at 4.0 feet or
elevation 864.1 feet
Te'ithole No. 5
Ground Elevation 865.9 feet
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Black peat
Gray fine to coarse sand with gravel
Ground water 3.0 feet or elevation 862.9 feet
The locations of the testholes are shown on the enclosed map. Also
plotted on the map are the boundaries of soil types identified by the Soil
Conservation Service in their publication, Soil' Survey of Anoka County, Minnesota.
As the map shows, the site is dominated by "Soderville fine sand, 0 to 4%
slopes". with "Zirrunerman fine sand. 6 to 12% slopes" in the somewhat higher
southeast corner. These two soil types are similar except that the Soderville
has a higher water table. Along the west side the proposed subdivision has
. "Rifle muck, woody" which is an organic soil and "Alluvial land, mixed.
frequently flooded" which is a mixture of organic soils and sand.
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Ground water varied at the testholes from elevation 861.9 to 862.9
at testholes 1, 2 and 3 which were made in October, 1977 and from
elevation 862.9 to just below 864 at testholes 4 and 5 which were
made in January, 1978. At testhole number 4 we found indications that
ground water has, at sometime in the past, been as high as elevation 867.1
feet. This is indicated by the mottled soil coloration at 1 foot. The
drainage ditch along fhe west line of the proposed subdivision has now
lowered ground water to the elevations presently indicated by testholes.
In our opinion, basements for homes at this proposed subdivision should
be constructed no lower than elevation 864.
The soils data as reported herein indicates adequate foundation conditions
for homes at each of the proposed lots at this subdivision except lots 8 and
9 and possibly lot 1. At lots 8 and 9 it should be expected that ten or
more feet of unstable organic soil will pe encountered at the house
locations as based upon our testhole number 5. Construction at these lots
will require either replacement of the organic soil with compacted sand
or the use of piles.
'At lot 1, testhole number 1 indicates that 5 feet of fill has been
placed above the original topsoil, a black clay loam. Based upon testhole
number 1, normal depth footings at this lot would be expected to reach
adequate soil. The soil boundaries shown on the enclosed map however.
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indicate that soil conditions may be more unfavorable toward the west
side of lot 1. We recommend that additional testholes should be made
at lots 1, 8 and 9 prior to construction.
Although less than adequate conditions were revealed by our testholes
for lots 8 and 9 and possibly lot I, in our opinion the conditions
are. not so unfavorable so as to recommed against platting of these lots.
The,soil as observed will not affect the construction of utilities
'and curb and gutter at proposed 140th Circle N.W. Further it
has been our experience that the special foundation requirements, such
as will be required for lots 8 and 9 and possibly lot number I, are
economically feasible as a part of the lot and construction costs for
development of single family residential home:;.
Although the proposed subdivision was found to have predominantly sand
soils at the surface, clay soil materials were found at some locations within
normal foundation depth. Under these conditions surface run off waters
can become trapped adjacent to foundation walls creating a potential
soil moisture problem in the house basements. Good construction practice
such as positive ground slopes away from the houses and foundation water
proofing should remedy these potential moisture problems. In more severe
cases the use of footing drain tile should be considered.
Yours truly,
. HAKANSON, ANDERSON ASSOCIATES
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