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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
December 12, 1978
AGENDA
Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. 1f2-78-5 Pond View Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing
2. Comm. 115-78-6 Pine Hills Addition Preliminary Plat Continued
3. Connn. 119-78-13 Lund's Evergreen Estates Preliminary Plat Continued
4. Comm. 1H2-78-1 Variance Request from Melva Johnson/Gar-Jac/Dale Schmidt
5. Comm. 1H2-78-2 Gilbert Menkve1d Special Use Permit Public Hearing
6. Comm. 1112-78-3 Discussion of possible development of Multi-family
zoned property on Bunker Lake Boulevard
0 7. Comm. 1H-78-3 Junkyard Ordinance Discussion
8. Comm. 119-78-6 Proposed Rum River Ordinance Discussion
9. Comm. 1H2-78-4 Parking Ordinance Amendment Discussion
10. Comm. 1H2-78-5 Park Ordinance Discussion
11. Comm. 1H2-78-6 Revision to Ordinance 10 Discussion
For publication on December 8, 1978
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
December 12, 1978
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order
at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman Larry Retzlaff on December 12, 1978 at the Andover
Community Center, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present:
d'Arcy Bosell, Don Jacobson, George Lobb and Jeannine
Pyron
Walter Dick and Ralph Kishe1
Dave Pil1atzke, Engineer from T.K.D.A., and others
Commissioners Absent:
Also Present:
Minutes
Motion by Bosell, seconded by Jacobson, to approve the
Meeting Minutes of November 28, 1978. Vote on motion:
Jacobson, Lobb; present - Pyron. Motion carried.
Planning and Zoning Commission
yes - Retzlaff, Bosell,
WobeRon Woods Preliminary Plat (Comm. #5-78-4)
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This plat has been returned by the City Council to the Planning and Zoning Commission
for the second time for revision and/or reconsideration. Dean Lutterman, owner,
and Ernie Rud, surveyor, were present. The plat has been redrawn. Dave Pillatzke
referred to his letter of 12-12-78. 174th Lane has been realigned and the configuration
of Block 2 has been changed. The 2 cul-de-sacs exceed the 500' maximum Ordinance
requirement and Block 3 exceeds the 1320' maximum block length requirement.
A letter was received from the Anoka County Highway Department requesting that
lots ''not'' front on County Road 9. The letter incorrectly stated Lot 1, Block 2.
It should be Lot 1, Block 3 instead. According to the topography of the land,
this is the most practical street layout,
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Pyron, that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends to the Andover City Council the acceptance of the Preliminary
Plat of Wobegon Woods for the following reasons: 1) It conforms with the Ordinances
of the City of Andover except as noted below. 2) The plat conforms with engineering
standards and has been reviewed by the City Engineer. 3) It also conforms with
the Comprehensive Plan of the City of Andover. 4) The Commission recommends
2 variances. A variance for the length of the cul-de-sacs on Eidelweiss Court
and Flora Court and a variance for the length of the block which exceeds 1320'
on Block 3 of l74th Lane. 5) The Commission also recommends that Lot 1 Block
3 and Lot 1 Block 1 access only to l74th Lane and not onto Round Lake Boulevard.
6) The Commission also recommends that the Council accept money in lieu of land,
as recommended by the Park and Recreation Commission.
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Amendment by Bosell, seconded by Pyron, that the following lots require a Variance
under Ordinance 8 Section 3.02 WW and AAA, as regards the definition for lot
front: Lot 1 Block 1 and Lot 1 Block 3. The rationale behind the Planning
Commission's recommendation is that due to the character of the land, this platting
was compatible with the Ordinances of the City.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - December 12, 1978
Page 2
Vote on amendment: carried unanimously. Vote on motion: carried unanimously.
This will be on the City Council Agenda on January 2, 1979.
Pine Hills Addition Preliminary Plat Continued (Comm. #5-78-6)
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Tom O'Malley explained that they don't want to go ahead with the engineering
plans until they have an idea where the roads are going to be and if the lot
sizes are acceptable to the City. The cul-de-sac, l60th Lane,is about 610'
from the centerline of Narcissus Street to the East end of the cul-de-sac.
If they shorten it, lots 2 and 3 would be less than 300' at the setback line.
Suggested a service road on Round Lake Boulevard but the Engineer and Commission
recommended that should be avoided, if possible. Another alternative suggested
was to run the lot diagonally. Mr. O'Malley will redraw in an attempt to make
the cul-de-sac length more acceptable. The plat is 1.8 acres short on park
land. Mr. O'Malley said that in meeting with the Park and Recreation Commission,
they said that if the developer is willing to pay enough money for the 1.8 acres,
then they think they will accept it. It is a good location for a park. Talked
about providing a narrow walkway between lots 1 and 2 of Block 1 to provide access
to the park. Mr. O'Malley said it was discussed at the Park and Recreation
Commission meeting and they felt it would be a maintenance problem. The developer
will need to go back to the Coon Creek Watershed Board. Discussed the future
subdivision of Block 3 since a portion of it borders on a M.S.A.H.-designated
roadway. It was felt the block is wide enough to allow a street to go through
to the south.
Mr. O'Malley asked that the discussion on the plat be continued until January
9th, the first Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting in 1979.
Variance Request from Melva Johnson/Gar-Jac/Dale Schmidt (Comm. #12-78-1)
Mr. and Mrs. Dale Schmidt, 15527 Prairie Road, were present to explain the variance
requested. There is a 25.6 acre parcel in Section 13 with frontage on Constance
Boulevard and Crosstown Boulevard. The people involved want to divide the property
into 3 parcels consisting of: Parcel A, 7 acres, 300' of frontage on Crosstown
and being purchased by Mr. and Mrs. Schmidt; Parcel B, 9.5 acres, 260' of frontage
on Crosstown and being purchased by Gar-Jac Construction; Parcel C, 9.1 acres,
300' of frontage on Constance Boulevard and also being purchased by Gar-Jac
Construction. Melva Johnson is the realtor involved with the sale of the land.
They are requesting the variance for the proposed Parcel B because of the 260'
frontage or width. They are also proposing a 33' driveway easement on Parcel
C to allow access to Parcel B from Constance Boulevard because of all the low
land along Crosstown on this lot. The Schmidt's were present because the realtor
and the contractor were unable to come.
The Commission suggested that those involved be present, that there be some
type of permission from the fee owner and the Building Inspector be contacted
to see whether there would be any problems in issuing building permits for the
land. This will be on the next Planning Commission agenda.
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Planning and Zoning Commission
Minutes - December 12, 1978
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Lund's Evergreen Estates Preliminary Plat Continued (Comm. #9-78-13)
Bruce Grivna, of Egan, Field & Nowak, was present to represent Mr. Lund. The
Coon Creek Watershed Board's approval of the plat has been received. The road
easement on Lot 3, Block 4 has not been vacated. The developer's attorney is
still working on it. The berm on the ponding area on Lot 2, Block 4 is extensive
enough. The streets going into the cul-de-sacs have to be changed to 66' of
right-of-way instead of 50'. The Park and Recreation Commission has not made
a decision on this plat. The following lots have lot width's less than 300':
Lots 1, 4 and 9 of Block 2; Lots 1 and 5 of Block 3; and Lot 2 of Block 4.
This will be on the next Planning and Zoning Commission Agenda.
Gilbert Menkveld Special Use Permit Public Hearing (Comm. #12-78-2)
Chairman Retzlaff opened the public hearing. Jack Menkveld was present to advise
the Commission of their request. He explained that they have a lot (Plat 65933
Parcel 450) that is zoned R-4 on Crosstown Boulevard, just North of 138th Avenue.
They would like to use it for construction of a duplex. The neighboring property
is mostly utilized for multi-family with some commercial also so they feel it
(a duplex) would be compatible. Discussed how they would put in the driveway
off from County Road 18. The service road being proposed for Jim Conroy's plat
could maybe be used at some point so the access wouldn't be directly onto Crosstown.
It was felt there would probably be a minimum of 4 cars being used by the residents
of the duplex.
Chairman Retzlaff called for public input - no one responded. Motion by Bosell,
seconded by Jacobson, to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussed the "Criteria for Granting Special Use Permits" under Section 5.03
of Ordinance 8. Mr. Menkveld said they would construct the driveway on the
north side of the property so that it could utilize the service road, if constructed.
Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Pyron, that the Planning and Zoning Commission,
City of Andover, recommends to the Andover City Council approval of a Special
Use Permit for Gilbert A. Menkve1d (on the property described as: plat 65933
parcel 450 per attached legal description) for the following reasons: 1) a
public hearing was held and there was no adverse comment; 2) the request is
for an area that already has a number of similar types of housing and the Commission
finds that the addition of a duplex in this area will not cause any diminution
on property values; 3) the Commission also finds that there will be no adverse
effect on the health, safety, morals or general welfare of the occupants of the
area; and 4) the issuance of the Special Use Permit would be in conformance with
the City's Comprehensive Development Plan.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - December 12, 1978
Page 4
Vote on motion: yes - pyron, Jacobson; no - Retzlaff; present - Bosell, Lobb.
Motion carried. Commissioner Lobb explained that he didn't vote 'no" because
of the Ordinance but he was concerned with the additional traffic a duplex would
cause. Commissioner Bosell, "I voted "present" because under the Ordinance an
R-4 (zoning) does allow by Special Use Permit this use of the land; however,
serious consideration needs to be taken as far as the hazards involved with
extra traffic." This will be on the City Council Agenda on January 2, 1979.
Discussion of possible development of Multi-family zoned property on Bunker
Lake Boulevard (Comm. #12-78-3)
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Jack Menkveld showed the Commission a sketch plan of about 31 acres that is
zoned M-l and M-2 in Section 34. The sanitary sewer is "to" the property but
not extended into it. There would be 292 possible dwelling units. The access
to the West is limited because of the City's holding pond and he felt that it
would be best to keep this area separate so he didn't show any extension to
the East. The North side of the property is residential. The Commission said
that he should look into a P.U.D. rather than what he is showing. Mr. Menkveld
mentioned that they were thinking of developing only a portion of the land at
one time. They do not plan on constructing the buildings on these lots. They
want to subdivide the land and bring the sewer to serve the land. It is zoned
for multi-family dwellings already but they want to subdivide or plat it into
lots. The Commission and Mr. Menkveld discussed the P.U.D. section of Ordinance
8. They mentioned the recent request by Good Value Homes to meet with the City
to discuss public sewer extension and possible public water and that perhaps
this should be done for this property also.
Pond View Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #2-78-5)
No one was present. Motion by Jacobson, seconded by Bosell, to continue the
Plat to the next regularly scheduled meeting.
Junkyard Ordinance (Comm. #1-78-3)
Commission Jacobson had drafted a junkyard ordinance and the Commission had
reviewed it prior to the meeting. A few changes were suggested.
Motion by Bosell, seconded by pyron, that the Planning and Zoning Commission
forward to the City Council and the City Attorney a draft (copy attached) proposing
the repeal of Ordinance 9 and issuing a new Ordinance dealing with the licensing
and regulating of junkyards and junk dealers.
Motion carried unanimously. This will be on the City Council Agenda on January
2, 1979.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - December 12, 1978
Page 5
Proposed Rum River Ordinance Discussion (Comm. #9-78-6)
Chairman Retzlaff presented new copies and suggested that everyone read it and
be prepared at the next meeting for corrections, etc.
Parking Ordinance Amendment Discussion (Comm. #12-78-4)
At their November 21, 1978 meeting, the City Council
to the Planning and Zoning Commission for rewriting.
research it and bring it back to the next meeting.
referred the Parking Ordinance
Chairman Retzlaff will
Park Ordinance Discussion (Comm. #12-78-5)
The Park and Recreation Commission is still working on the ordinance. This
will be continued until they have completed their work on it.
Revision to Ordinance 10 Discussion (Comm. #12-78-6)
The revision or amendment to Ordinance 10 deals with park dedication. The Park
and Recreation Commission, at their meeting on December 7th, made a number of
changes to the proposed ordinance. Chairman Retzlaff distributed copies to
J the Commission with the Park Commission's recommendations. This will be continued
to the next agenda to allow the Planning Commission time to review it.
The Commission requested copies of the recently adopted Comprehensive Park Plan.
Ad ;ournment
Motion by Bosell, seconded by Lobb, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
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Deloris J. H~son
Commission Clerk
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