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HomeMy WebLinkAboutNovember 2, 1978 .> o u ~ ~ ANDOVER C) PARK/RECREATION Cm~ISSION MEETING - NOVBlBER 2, 1978 MINUTES The Meeting was called to order by ChairmanMand at 7:35 p.m., November 2,1978 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W. Commission Members Present: Commission Members Absent: Also Present: Anderson, LeFebvre, Meyer & Nichols Curtis & Rogers Roger Anderson and two others representing Rum River Hockey Association; Chuck Lund representing Evergreen Estates ORDINANCE C~AITTEE A special meeting of the Ordinance Committee was scheduled for lfunday night, November 6, 1978. MINUTE APPROVAL MOTION by Meyer, seconded by leFebvre, to approve the Minutes of the October 5, and October 21st meetings. Motion carried unanimously. RUM RIVER HOCKEY ASSOCIATION o Roger Anderson stated he received an estimate on the lumber needed to put another set of boards on the hockey rink at City Hall from Sylvesters. They need 37 2x2x16" boards - Sylvester's cost is $532.80. This estimate includes the lumber to replace the gate. Also needed are 125 pcs. 2x2xh18" angle iron - $145.00, 250 5/16" rounds (bolts) - $26.00, 250 lock washers - $10.00, 250 nuts - $3.00, or a total of $184.00. In addition, cutting the angle iron would cost $55.00 and another $135.00 for drilling the holes in the angle iron, plus a delivery charge of $15.00, or a total of $389.00. Cost of lumber and material $921.80. As yet he has been unable to get an estimate on cyclone fencing. Needed are 64 lineal ft. (16' in each corner, 48" high) and 8 21" cornerposts, 10' long. An estimated cost was $325.00. Noted was a delivery charge isn't necessary as the City now has a dump truck. Chairman Mand made the following suggestions: 1. Go out and try to get material donated - Franwall Machine is one possibility. 2. He has a drill press and could punch the 500 holes in the angle iron with help from volunteers. 3. Try to obtain scrap iron and find a person who has the equipment to cut it to size. l~. Anderson stated he would check around to see what is available at the lowest cost on the lumber and iron and try to get donations. Chairman Mand said he would obtain a price on the fencing. Bill LeFebvre thought there should be two gates into the hockey rink, one for the home team and one for the oppos- ing team. }!r. Anderson and the other members of the hockey association explained the association's lack of funds and recognized the City's limited budget for park improvement. However, they are starting out slow now asking for the basics. In the future they will come back requesting larger improvements such as a larger warming house and a shelter for the teams. The older cities, such as Pine City and Mora, have hockey rinks fully developed and at times attract 200 spectators. They would like to see this happen in Andover. o The discussion that followed revolved around the safety hazard of the present height of the boards in that the taller boys could fallout of the rink and be injured. The warming house is also a hazard. There is no ramp to get in or out. Small children could be injured climbing in or jumping out. This subject is to be referred to the Senior Public Works Person. A request was made to enlarge the free skating rink and possibly another hockey rink which need not be regulation size, for the children not on an organized team but who wish to play \ Page #2 - Minutes ',--.J ParkIRecreation Meeting November 2, 1978 \ "-~ hockey. Quoted was a price of $5800.00 for a complete hockey rink which includes , material, construction, lighting and labor done by volunteer help. The hockey ) association would like the boards added this season which start the middle of December. If they got the material, it would be done over a weekend. Chairman l~d stated it would depend upon the cost, what is left in the Park/Recreation budget - the total now is close to a capital improvement item, which would cause a delay. The hockey association will return at the next regularly scheduled meeting with a report on their findings. EVERGREEN ESTATES This preliminary plat concists of 23 lots, 73.5 acres, no park land is shown. lAr. Lund explained they are planning on blacktopping the roam and building $80-100,000.00 homes. The lots would sell for approximately $15,000.00. The assessed market value, he understands, is $14,700.00, however, this property is presently being taxed under Green Acres. If the City requested park land in lieu of cash, he and his partners would have to abandon the project as it would not be econimically feasible if they had to give up 3 lots. He then offered $5,000.00 in lieu of park land. The Commission generally agreed money in lieu of park land would be the wisest choice since City Hall and Barnes Rolling Oaks parks are in the vicinity plus the fact these lots are 2~ acres so there is plenty of room to play in. Mr. Lund stated they are not planning on developing this area until next Spring. Since there is no time element involved, Mr. Lund was asked to return. In the meantime the Commission will know whether or not the park fee will be based on Green Acres or Non-Green Acres. If it is based on Non-Green Acres, there is a possibility that 10% of this figure would be more than $5,000.00. TAX FORFEIT LAND , "~ The Commission looked over the tax forfeit property on a map. Once parcel is in Cedar Crest directly south of the area in litigation. The secretary advised the City Clerk checked with the County and the price quoted was $10.35. It was decided the rest of the parcels should be referred to the fire department for possible well/fire station sites. MOTION by Anderson, seconded by Meyer, to recommend the City Clerk authorize the purchase of Lot 8, Block 4, (66785-4600) Cedar Crest Estates for park purposes in the event the owner does not reclaim it by paying the back taxes. l10tion carried unanimously. TREES - BAILEY'S NURSERY Chairman Mand explained to the new members the reasonably priced bare root trees purchased from Bailey's Nursery last summer and where they were planted, etc. There was some discussion on fast growing, slow growing and life expectancy of the different varieties. Edna Meyer took the catalog home to review, The Commission will decide on what types of trees and the amount to purchase at a later time. BUDGET - EQUIH!ENT PURCHASE The quarterly report of expenditures, the 1977 budget and the proposed 1978 budget was discussed. The Commission intended to spend the remaining monies in their 1977 budget on equipment before the end of the year. However, they were not aware special assessments (street and storm sewer) along park property in the sewered area came out of their budget. The proposed 1979 budget was checked and there is a line item for assessments shown. \ '-~ SECURITY LIGHTS - NORTHWOODS TENNIS COURTS - added agenda item The secretary was asked to check with the local deputy regarding the location of security lights for the Northwoods tennis courts. , " Page #3 - ~$inutes ,---) ParkIRecreation Meeting November 2, 1978 / \ \....J CROOKED LAKE LAND ACQUISITION - $2,000.00 - added agenda item ': ) Since no grant money will be received for the fishing dock at the north end of Crooked Lake, the following motion was made: MOTION by Mand, seconded by Anderson, to either consider approving the $2,000.00 obtained out of 1977 surplus allocated for the Crooked Lake land acquisition be now allocated for improvement of the City Hall hockey rink, the $780,00 change order for the lighting of the City Hall tennis courts and the balance be used for the purchase of sand points, or that this amount be carried over into the 1979 Park/Recreation budget. Motion carried unanimously. OUTDOOR SANITATION FACILITY RENTAL MOTION by Anderson, seconded by Meyer, to request the City Clerk to issue a purchase order for the rental of one Aquazyme unit for the upcoming months of December, January and February at City Hall for an estimated cost of $54.00 per month. Motion carried unanimously, Discussion: It was felt the shell on the Aquazyme unit is translucent. There is no light in the unit, therefore, it should be placed under a security light. The Senior Public Works person will be advised of this. MOTION by Meyer, seconded by Nichols, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 10:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted: ~~ /? /' ~, /. ) '/-- at' r" ,/' -./r-;L-~~ / e Ellen Bakke, Secretary \ --~ o u r:}:/ / 300 Metro Square Building, 7th Street and Robert Street, Saint Paul, Minnesota 55101 Area 612,291-6359 November 6. 1978 TO: LAWCON/LCMR Applicants RE: FY 1979 LAWCON/LCMR Preliminary ,Grant:Applications At its meeting October 12, 1978, the Metropolitan Council considered your LAWCON/LCMR grant application (s). This consideration was based on a report of the Physical Development Committee, Referral Report No. 78-l09.The result of this review has been sent to the Office of / Local and Urban Affairs of the State. Planning Agency for funding decisions. ' Attached is a copy of the recommendations adopted by the Council and Tables 1, 2, 3 and 4 of the report listing the ranking of the applications. If you have any questions or need further information on this review, please contact John Rutford of our staff (291-6313) . Sincerely, METROPOLITA~ ~o~ ~~~r~~n JB:jg Attachment cc: Phyllis Hanson, Metropolitan Council Staff \ J An Agency Created to Coordinate the Planning and Development of the Twin Cities Metropolitan Area Comprising: Anoka County 0 Carver County 0 Dakota County 0 Hennepin County 0 Ramsey County 0 Scott County 0 W....hlngton County / \ / I For R21ease: 10 . l' 78. 4 p. m. ~ Bus. Item: B-Z \ ~) : .,:-;. . .." . '-.,'-;. .'.," -. <~.:~~- : . .I:'~. ~"':.!:.;, MET R 0 POL I TAN CO' U N C I L ''<i' Suite 300 Hetro Square Building, Saint Paul, Minnesota 5510L>~~'~~;i REPORT OF THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT COMMITTE& Referral Report No. 78-109 ~ TO: Metropolitan Council . SUBJECT: RECOMMENDED PRIORITY RANKING OF FY1979 LAHCON/LCMR ,,;";~~S'I>'_:""1'> PRELIMINARY GRANT APPLICATIONS . .."~~~!!~ifli'J At its meeting on October 5, 1978, the Physical Development Com:;.;~'r.';:-t:~j:;;~~~~ mittee considered the recommendations of the Metropolitan Park~~:~':,ss:nlf:~f.1.lv and Open Space Conunission concerning the FY1979 LAWCON/LCMR,..,~.::~,,'~2.A:~,i1tf:."" preliminary grant application rankings. ,_!'~-".~if~y~::#~qt.r~t..~ . -:-' ~~J/.[:.~~--:.f~:~i'~:; The Physical Development Committee discussed the rankings and.. l.m;~(:.;;:~, particular, the projects of the central cities. The Committee"';;-:~';'~<t,j.~ raised concern in connection ~ith the State Planning AgencY"$ po~',~lf~~;~' ition of lower priority for redevelopment projects. The- Committe~~;i';f concurred with the Metropolitan Parks and Open Space Commissiori/:>\!f~f~ reconunendations, and added recommendation number T. >:~:~~;~i~N~i;f$;:;{J,'::C,t., RECOMMENDATIONS: .~:~~;0ti~~i~}\~~~ ~~~ 1. That Tables I, 2. 3. and 4 be recommended to State Planning:<~":';i~;;:1JJ'&{ Agency to serve as the basis for allocating available: LAWCONf'~;;;::-";~~?f;"; 2. ~: :::::. will be allocat~d' by Policy Planning Are~i'~~r~~~l~ Fully Developed Areas. . . . . . - ,~4-97.;>;~;:~Jt~ti't;~$t-i Area of Planned Urbanization . , .34-7;e,,>~:,.',,"fX;"'.i,~ Freestanding Growth Centers. . .. -.il~J15~~~~~~~~~~ Rural Town Centers . . . .'. . . .' . 6'7;. (maxuntlItt.."i.,-..>;: ,": $100' OOO)'!(~l" . -". -.;, ~ - " ~ ",~:"{~:;;;..:~-;,?;~~~;..>;~i-f\ 3. In the event that any Policy Planning Area has non-allocatecI;::i,;;}:',,-,,",:{J':'~~~ funds after all quality projects (over 60% of av~ila~le recre~7,~t)~~K~ tion points) are funded, the excess shall be red:!.strl.buted t:~ -,~.;";;1~~~y.f$ the other areas based on the Policy Area Allocation Percentage~~~t~~S~~ Ratio. (No.2, above.) "':':t~~{J,~~\~tt!~l 4. That a limit of one grant per community t~ a maximum of $100',OO(}":'<~),~~~. of assistance apply in all areas but the Fully Developed Area.::t~"';'$;::)\~ 5. That in the Fully Developed Area a community may receive an un~:;~;P2~~ limited number of grants to a maximum of $200,000 of assistance;~;-.":-:";~~': for anyone grant. ;>~I"r'in;f '. ',:~~dl~ , ..);~-'~;-~~~#~j - .'"~-;:f~:~~~ . .---:__~~:,.-p"i' .~~=r'''f7''::!~~~ '\ \J -2- " 'V 6. That Minnetonka's inclusion into the Regional Regional Special Recreation application fo~ Gray's Bay be .. . Recreat~on Open Space Use water access considered for as a ,_/ System site. 7. That State Planning Agency, in reviewing criteria, redevelopment as a legitimate use of these funds. MB/PH/bd attachment / -_/ Marcia Bennett Chairperson .- ..- , - ..- ,'~ ~,~.:j-. .,,~~~,p~ ;~~~~~~l .;. p;,~~~""';},~:':2f:! ,r;t '.',-' ,'-~.:-~:'~~-,--..,'~:-;.i~) r;.... :~!.(i~~'{ ;:~~~~,'II . J/,~ ..... :r? II- '-, " .~ :._;<~~~~~ ". -~-\'~?~:~~~~'- ..,.::---I.....'''\~ ....~~.:7.~~' consider -' ~.'- '::.:..>":-:::.":.:At"'....i;Ua~....5.i~ / :-tec:c Hec~~rO:tion rtankino 3 1 2 10 1J 6 9 3 7 20 l:! 13 13 8 :.. ~3 .. 25 / 22 19 31 C 17 26 H 16 11 Lol 28 29 33 30 ", "- JZ , '---_/ \,J RECOf!:~~IOED ?!\!ORITY RANKING ,OR ....A:~COrr/LO'R rtr.;D!~IG TABLE 1 F~LLY DEVELOPED AREA ~et=o Rank:ng W/Housina State P1ng. Agency ?ankinq Flnal Rankine "14 "2.1. 23 24 .5 26 "27 29 30 .3 J J4 Projp-ct !'lame 1 ~ 3 4 RobOinsdale, park Site West Brooklyn Center, Cent. Parxl crid!ey, Springbrook Mature C~r. St. Louis park. \~estwood Hills ~ature Ci!nter ,ridley, Comm. parK Comolex St. pauL, Edgc~be Rec. C~~. St. paul, Dunning Municipal Ath. Mpls. park, Hec. Bd., Sningle Creek Bloomlngton. Valley View park St. LOU1S park, Creekside St. paul, ~. Dale Rec. Site St. Pau~, Hor~on Park Phase ~pls. ?ark ~ Rec. 3d., A~atage Neighbor~ood' C:ystal, Welcome park St. paul, Wilder park Rlc~field, Adams Hill park ~pls. park, Rec. 9d., Morris ?ar:< S. St. Paul Sc~ool 01St. 6, Community Ct~. Goleen Valley, Marl Hills Park St. paul, prosperity Heights ?ichflela, R1Ch Acres ?ark2 Mpls. park S Rec. 9d., arackett Park 'C=yst~l, aasset~ Creek Park Rosev~lle, Central ?arx ~endota, Ci~'l ?ark2 Ric~f~eld, Wood Lake Nat~re C~=. New Hope, Outdoor ..;rnphi-Theat:'! ~pls. ?ark 0 Rec. 3d.. ~niv. ~icni~~ld, Augsburq ?ark St. Ant~onY/Sc~ool Oist. .282, Ci!nt~3l park Ramsey County, Scenic Easements2 Mots. Park' Rec. Sd., ~~orl G~rdens2 ?e f. I 6041 60012 602S '6127 6026 6121 6U4 6137 6031 61~6 6119 6U3 6108 6076 6110 6109 6lJ4 6058 6049 6122 6111 6136 6077 6072 6059 611~ 6013 5135 6412 6106 6l0S 6017 60ij3 61:!S ':'otal Cost 5 74,100 ,~4J,343 250,000 <10,000 400,000 241,500 3J8,800 ~201,lOO 275,000 90.000 101,200 lij7,OOO 238,994 2i,800 ~9,OOO 23,000 222,252 4J,S2S 41.000 88,000 146,000 1!?4,71S 13,000 120,000 H.OOO 3, 000 100,000 195,927 101 ,000 36,200 93,600 HS,OOO 1.1.2,200 195,000 1. 3rooklyn C~nte:. ~=io~ ~o ~~cinq, wlll ~e~d e~ lnsure ~~at no cevelcprnent ~ill ~ake plaee on potential :-~4 ~i;h~~~-~ay. ~h~s snoulc ~oc be a ?c~blem. 3 5 5 01 J 2 5 6 7 8 ~ 10 II 12 13 " " " " 19 ~O " !c~na, Weber ?3rx St. Louis Park. ~ass Lake parx2 2. ~pplica~ions ~~a~ =ecei'l~d less than 60' 0: ~~e available r~c=ea~ion ?oir.~s. '7 10 16 1 6 4 1 Ii 13 16 1~ 19 8 12 13 12 8 19 b IS 11 9 27 ~ 21 L3 6 30 23 9 28 101 32 7 22 10 20 2~ 1S 30 ~S H II ~6 3J 29 27 201 H 10 17 21 L9 33 l5 l6 3. h 2~ J4 28 3! / ~P?l~cac~or.s ~ie~ in :inal r~nki~g. '---, ) \..-) TABLE 2 , RE~~~'!!:~:DEO P~IORITY RANK!::G FO R !,rl1'COU/LC:!R Fl~OI:lG ArtEA or PUNNE:> UPJlA:lIZ,\T!ONl " / ~e tre ~etro State -- -- Recreat1.on Rank~ng Plng. Agency rinal Total Rank1.:'\c '..,/Hcus.1.:lo ~.J.nk..l:la Rank.1r.a ?roject ~ame Re:.. C::Ist 1 J 5 1 ~.3p1e Grove, !,..aver Lake P3rk 6102 5159,800 12 10 1 2 Eden Prair.1e, :Ii tche11 Lake Park 6095 500,000 7 7 ~ 3 MinnetonKa, :-!e adoW' P a rJ( 60b4 393,400 11 5 7 4 Maplewood, Cope St. Park 6016 ~60,OOO 2 L 17 ~ Cottage Grove, I,oodridge Park 6073 20~.802 3 b 14 & :lounds View, Silver View 6096 98,374 ~4 l~ 3 7 ~o)(a County, Coon Creek2 6079 84,300 b 20 ~ 8 arooKlyn Park, Shingle Cree}c 6032' 620;250 H 17 9 9 Eagan, Comm. Athletic Complex 6085 120,000 6 14 13 10 Woodbury, Shawnee Park 6062 113,927 ~o h 3 11 !,wer Grove !ieignts, Valley Pk. 6067 h4,OOO 13 U 16 12 White Bear Lake, Lake'N'ood Hills 6093 ~9,OOO 2l 19 12 *13 91aine, LOCMess Pa,,"k 60h 120,000 10 2 2~ * Coon Rapies, :-1orris aye School 6019 85,332 19 25 10 ~5 Ceephaven, Burton ParK 6044 4~,OOO b 11 ~4 ~iew Brighton, HanSen ?3.rx 6040 50,000 2~ 31 6 *17 Little Canada, Spooner ?ark 60jO 60,000 23 ~5 21 PlymoulOh. Shiloh Nghd. Park 6060 40,000 18 23 15 19 Snoreview, County ~d. E , l;ivian 6054 120,000 3 8 32 20 Excelsior, Corrmons 606B 70,000 " 9 15 31 ~l Apple ~a11ey/School DislO H96, Eastview At~leeic Complex 6107 426,900 / 26 L2 2:.! FiShing Dock' 31 Andover, 603a 91,000 32 ~9 20 23 C:'anhassen, Randy Her:nan Field4 6091 90,000 2~ 32 L3 2. Vic'toria, 'lic'tor.:.a ?arlt 60~2 50,600 " , 2j l5 25 llac:naJ.s Heights, VadnaJ.s Heignts <- ?ark 60JO 3~,OOO ~7 30 1J 26 'Spring take Park, Suchan an Park 6,)69 80,000 DUP!.IC.~7!VE: .=\?P!..I::';T!~~IS: ~3ple Grove, Cedar Zsland ?lay~ield, Ref. ~6104 ~ew 3r~ght~n, Hidcen Oaks P~=k, ?e:.*6036 ~lew 3r~ghton, Totem ?ole park"', Ref. ~603S ~innetonka, Purgatory C:eek, Refer:al ~60803 :::agan, ~lor~hviet.{ Park, ~efe=ral ~6086 ~~gan, Rahn School, Refer,,"al ~~OBj l~innelOonka, Gray's Say, Ref. >6081. ts recomneneea for inclusion in the Reqtonal Recreatton SYSt~~ as a spec~al ~se water access S1~e. 2Coon C:eek ac~uisi:ion is located at t~e lnt2rsec~icn of ~M 10 anc H~nson Boule~ar:. ?r~or to ~:u:c..:.nq, ;;noi<a C:::unC'l wi1.l need :'0 check ...,i=~ :'!:'1/COT t:J l;1sure ~:'a1: the 39Pl,:,c3.:..:.cn will not involve ~ny lanes neeeee :or aeei~tonal rtqht-~f-way ac ~his ~nt2rsec~ion. J-:'~e '::3i.ls I por:.icn (i.ncl'..:ding a.ccess ~arki:lq and tr3ils tot3.1inq S40,000 along ~!i:l:letonka' s Purgatory C=e~k) ~as re:er=ed to ~~e t:a~ls grant ?rogr3m. 4APPltcations t~at receivee less t~an 60\ of th~ available rec,,"eation poinlOs. '-- / , , : I '-../ RECO~NDED PRIORITY Ti-.~ LE J '0 RANKING FOR LAWCON/LCMR FUNDING FREESTANDING GROWTH CENTERS Metro Me~ro State Recreat3.on Ran 3.ng Plng. Agency Final / Rankinl!; w/Housinl1; Rankinl!; Rankinl!; Project Name 1 ~ 2 1 Lakeville, Orchard Lake Park 6 H 1 2 Prior Lake, Ath. Complex 4 4 5 3 Anoka, Riverside Park 7 7 3 4 Forest Lake, Lakeside Park 8 6 4 5 Chaska, Comm. Playfield Ref. f1 6053 6088 6101 &057 6098 Total Cost 22,000 149,000 :ll,840 85,000 l77,567 DUPLICATIVE APPLICATIONS: .~oka, Sunny Acres, Referral #6139 Anoka, John Ward Park, Referral #6138 Lakevi11e, Orchard Lake Beach, Referral #6150 TABLE 4 RECOMMENDED PRIORITY RANKING FOR LAWCON/LCMR FUNDING RURAL TOHN CENTERS 1 , 2 State r'letro Plng. Agency Final Total Rankinl1; Rankinl1; Rankinl1; Project Name Ref. f~ Cost 1 2 1 Shakopee, O'Dowd Lake3 6140 $125,000 4 8 2 St. Francis, Central Park 6065 35,050 2 6 3 Vermillion. Acquisition of Park Land 6097 .6,000 7 3 4 Lake land , Swimming Beach 4 6089 6,500 \ 6 14 5 Hamburg, BiCentennial park4 5969 4,700 / 3 15 6 New Germany, Lindstrom park4 6027 19,800 X?!.IC;"TI7E APPLICATION: :a~eland, Lakeland Hills Neighborhood Park, Referral #6090. .7~e Council's Development Framework Chapter discourages development in the Rural Service Area. The Framework Chapter urges that urban growth outside the Metropolitan Urban Service Area and Free- standing Growth Centers take place in rural town centers. Therefore, in support of these policy concepts, applications from rural areas other than town centers were considered ineligible bv the Metropolitan Council in adopting the criteria for LAWCON/LCMR applications. The specific criter3.a seated "that in the rural area, only rural town centers will be allocated funds." Applications from rural areas other than rural town' centers were: Washington County, Point Douglas Recreation Area, Ref. #6099. !.ake Elmo, Pebble Park, Ref. #6115. Tablyn Park, Ref. #6116 DeMontreville Park, Ref. #6117 Sunfish Lake Park, Ref. #6118 Dayton, River Bend 'Park, Ref. #6055. 117 Ave. N. & County Road 121, Ref. #6056 Andover, Langseth Park, Ref. #6037 Ramsey, Titterud Park, Ref. #6029 Linwood, Linwood Community Park, Ref. #604~ Vermillion. DevelOp Community Playfield, Referral #6141 2Carver County, Baylor Regional Park. Ref, /16028, is ineligible due to being a Regional Park. '-~hakooee's O'Dowd Lake has been ranked and recommended for funding due to being a_significant natural resource that is in immediate danger of being lost to development. -" (A plat on this land has been approved.) 4Applications that received less than 607. of the available recreation points, j ./ \ ,-j ~H3 rnl City of Ramsey I" 1 Nowthen Boulevard N.W., Anoka, Minnesota 55303 . (612) 427-1410 / November 9, 1978 Ci ty of Andover 16471 South Diamond Lake Road Dayton, Minnesota 55327 TO WHCN IT MAY CDNCERN; / We are sending you a copy of some recent letters we sent to the Metropolitan Parks and Open Space Commission in regards to their decision which excluded us from their ranking of park projects re~ questing LAWCDN fimds. Since according to our infonnation your City was excluded also, we thought you might like a copy of our correspondence with them. Sincerely, CITY OF RAMSEY !) p.-,~ () ,,~-~ Dennis Donovan, Chainnan Park and Recreation Commission DD;sb Enclosure / , \ ,____J , \ \,J / October 17. 1978 Mr. Robert Nethercut Director of Parks Metropolitan Council 300 Hetro Square Building Seventh Street and Robert Street St. Paul, Minnesota 55101 RE: Park Grant Dear Mr~ Nethercut: The City Council of the City of Ramsey and its Park Corrmission have requested that I infonn your office and the l-ietro Cotmcil of their displeasure in the criteria established for granting LAWmN park grant money. The City Council and its Park Corrmission feel that your recent - policy for use of LAl\'illN ft.mds were discriminatory against c:ommjni ties / that are not considered town centers by your office. Further, they do not like the use of planning psuedonym when iti~ used to discriminate against them in getting public ftmds. The City of Ramsey is a new City with a very rapid population growth and consequently needs all the assistance it can get in park grants to meet the need of the recreational demands that are being placed on it. We. hope that in the future that all conmmities will be treated on the same level and that the grant go where there is a definite need for such grant. Sincerely, CIlY OF RAl-15EY Lloyd G. Schnelle City Administrator cc: Mayor Arnold L. Cox Demds Donovan, Chainnan Park and Recreation Comnission LGS:sb o. , ! ' . / ,- , J .. City of Ramsey 15'''3, Nowthen Boulevard N,W., Anoka, MInnesota 55303 . (612) 427.Ul0 . ..,. .... , ' . J November 9, 1978 ':: '~.-:.-: - ~\ .. .' Metropolitan Parks and Open Space Commission Metropolitan Council Suite 300 ' Metro Square Building St. Paul, Minnesota:' 55101 II ',' , , Dear Conmission Members: / The _Ramsey City Council and _the, City Park and Recreation Corrrnission is sending this letter to express our displeasure With your decision to consider our LAWrnN!LCMRgrant application for Titterild Park inelgib1e., The ,reason stated on page 19 of your -staff:mernO dated September' '12; 1978 is that you are supporting'the Council's Development Framework Chapter. The Development Framework does not encourage blatant discrimination, againSt rural areas not containing town' centers. We doubt that the " State Legislature would support your criteria which states that only nrral town centers will be allocated funds. Our tax money helps support the LAWmN!LCMR grant program therefore,' we' should be considered eligible without bias or forwarded a check eq1,1alto our tax contribl,ltion. tt is 'our opinion that people shoUld not be denied park development funds baSed, on where ,they live. 'Parks are-also needed in rural areas. ' We -request that you reconsider your policy of considering rural areas '. wi thout, town-:centers ,ineligible as soon -as possible. We are not adverse---;- to competing for grant JOOrnes, however, we do obj ect to being told from the start 'that we don \t count. ' Respectfully subnii tted, CIIT OF RAMSEY , . V~()~ Park and Recreation Coninission Ramsey City Council ' sb '.'. cc: State Representative Jo1m Clawson State Senator Gerald Anderson J .":", " : ~J o .::) C) 0 CITY 01 ANDOVER M E M 0 RAN DUM TO: Mayor and Council COPIES TO: City Clerk FROM: Park/Recreation Commission DA TE:: November 9. 1978 REFERENCE: $2,000.00 Crooked lake land acquisition - 1977 surplus The following motion was made at the Park/Recreation Commission meeting November 2, 1978 and is for your consideration: MOTION by MEnd, seconded by Anderson, to either consider approving the $2,000.00 obtained out of the 1977 surplus for the Crooked lake land acquisition be now allocated for improvement of the City Hall hockey rink, the $780.00 change order for the lighting of the City Hall tennis courts and the balance to be used for the purchase of sand points, or that this amount be carried over into the 1979 Park/Recreation budget. Motion carried unanimously. ,.f... '-"'111~ ,VA" / / 1r1;7! i:6" Wes Mand /t- Chairman P.S. The Council also \~oved the Comprehensive Park D~opment Plan on 11-21-78. CITY 01 ANDOVER () M E M 0 RAN DUM TO: Park/Recreation Commission COPIES TO: FROM: Rae DATE:: 12-1-7S REFERENCE: Misc. 1. Amendment to Ord. #10 - Larry Retzlaff will be present. He composed the enclosed Ord. #lOD. Last March he also composed a park ordinance, a copy of which is also enclosed in case you can't find yours. Possibly this also can be discussed. I suggest the following changes: 2.13 - shall be unlawful to ride or drive any vehicle in City Parks. Had a complaint last week about snowmobilers in Langseth Park at all hours of the night. Could also suggest to City Council to establish an ordinance prohibiting snowmobiles on any City street in a platted area. Add: c~ Section 3. Violation & Penalty Any person, firm or corporation violating any of the provisions in this ordinance shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine and/or imprisonment as established by law. Section 4. Effective Date. Also somewhere in an ordinance there is a statement no horses are allowed in parks, can't find it just now, but maybe this could be expanded upon to include dogs, etc. unless leashed. In Norway, there is a $200.00 fine if a dog is caught doing its business on a sidewalk, blvd. or street so they walk their dogs carrying paper to clean up the mess, this probably includes park areas. 2. Pine Hills Pre. Plat - They changed the park location from what you saw last June. Copies of revision won't be here until next Mond. 3. Evergreen Estates - Linda Johnsonwill give $7500.00 in lieu of land. This comes to $222.55 per acre. Using, 'the same compo - for Evergreen with 73.5 acres, you could ask for $16,357.42. It was mentioned in the office the Commission would be foolish to ask for anything less than $20,000. 4. During the last couple of Council meetings, they authorized the $2,000.00 allocated for the Crooked Lake land acquisition to be changed to the extra $780.00 for city hall tennis court lights and improvement of the hOCkey rink. There will probably be some money left over for equipment and/or tools, etc. o The fire chief advised Wes the fire department has volunteered to flood Skating rinks in the parks this year using a pumper. The first rinks are Northwoods, Shady Knoll and possibly Quickstrom. This subject has been turned over to the Senior Public Works Person, hopefully one could also be established in Langseth. However, as of Friday, 10:00 a.m., there has been no contact between the fire chief and Ray Sowada.