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ANOKA, MINNESOTA 55303
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PARK/RECREATION COMMISSION ~!EETING - 10-5-78
AGENDA
1. Minute approval - August 3, 16, September 7 and 21
2. Crooked Lake School Proposed Park
3. Park Maintenance
4. Committee to negotiate for land purchases
5. Committee for ordinance review
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PARK/RECREATION COMMISSION
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CITY CLERK
OCTOBER 3, 1978
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COUNCIL REFERRALS
Regular City Council Meeting - September 19, 1978.
MOTION by Windschitl, seconded by Orttel, to direct the first-year funding
of the park development of Crooked Lake School to the Park and Recreation
Commission for consideration in their 1979 Budget. Motion carried unanimously.
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PARK/RECREATION CCTh~ISSION MEETING
MINUTES
The Andover Park/Recreation Commission Meeting was called to order by Chairman Mand at
7:40 p.m., October 5, 1978 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W.
Commission Members Present: LeFebvre, Meyer and Nichols
Commission Members Absent: Anderson and Curtis
Also Present: Nancy Hagman and members of the Advisory Council
Roger Anderson, Rum River Hockey Assoc.
MINUTE APPROVAL
MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Mand to approve the Minutes of the August 3, August 16,
September 7 and September 21, 1978 meetings. Motion carried unanimously.
CROOKED LAKE SCHOOL PROPOSED PARK
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Chairman Mand stated he had made some notes on this subject and wanted these items brought
to the Commissions' attention.
1. Access to the proposed park is across an already dangerous main road. At present
there is 'inadequate lighting and no traffic control after school.
2. It may be possible to obtain fill for the hole at no cost when sanitary sewer and road
projects are done in the area in the near future.
3. The Commission has done very little to improve the parks in the northwest part of the
City. There is now a large population in this area and the need is there to start park
development. Also noted is part of this area is in District #15.
4. The Park-School guidelines, appendix A, items 6 through 10, cover a substantial part
of the plan presented and are by School District minimum standards to be provided.by
the School District.
5. How many students who will be using this park will be Andover residents. The north
end of Andover is in District #15 and many residents in the southern area are now,
or will be soon, bussed out of Andover.
6. The City will be spending (if the budget is approved as presented) in excess of $16,000
on the Community School program in the coming year, which is a substantial part of the
Park/Recreation Commission's budget for the year.
7. In talking to Dean Hamre from District #11, he, Wes, was told the Park-Schoolcguide-
lines can be renegotiated between the School District and the City of Andover.
8. All of the improvements in this proposed park development do not relate directly to
the park system, ie., the parking area shown on the plan would be of much greater benefit
to the school than it would be to the park; the filling of the hole is more of a school
district problem in that it was created by the School District for the use of the school
and should not become the responsibility of the City.
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1. Rework the time schedule of the project to allow fill to be generated in the surrounding
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area, and to allow more volunteer help from community organizations such as Lions,
JC's, Boy Scouts, parents, students, etc.
2. Renegotiate the Park-School agreement to reduce or eliminate the possibility of
pressure being brought on the Council or future Park/Recreation Commission in the
event grant funding is not available within the expected timetable for the project.
3. In the event a sprinkler system is installed, the Fire Department should be
consulted as to the possibility of constructing the well to allow fire trucks to use
the system for filling tank trucks.
Chairman MEnd went on to say he believed the parking lot on the proposed park site would
benefit the school more than the park users. Nancy Hagman stated the parking lot has
eliminated and also the sprinkler system. They found the system's maintenance cost would
be too high and it would be cheaper in the long run to bring in good topsoil.
Highlights.of the lengthy discussion that followed are as follows:
Chairman Mand questioned why should the hole be filled at City expense? It was created
for the benefit of the school. He likened this to the sanitary sewer residents. The City
did not pay to have the septic tanks pumped and filled, this was the home owner's
responsibility.
Edna Meyer would like to see the condition of the City parks before she could recommend
any expenditure on school property.
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/ On the subject of the footbridge across Coon Creek, it was felt a questionnarie could
be placed in the January sewer billing for Northwoods and Green Acres residents in
order to get their feelings as to whether they would now prefer that their children
walk to school across this footbridge or be bussed to schools out of the area.
Chairman Mand stated the Council only raised the mill levy 1/2 mill for 1979 and doesn't
believe the Commission will receive much, if any, money out of the Capital Improvement
project request.
MOTION by Meyer, seconded by LeFebvre, to wait on the Crooked Lake School proposed park
to see what pur budget is next year, what we have left, and after we have made the park
tour to find out what we can do with the parks we have and what we come up with after
that. Motion carried unanimously.
PARK MAINTENANCE
Ray Sowada has checked into different types of snowblowers and has recommended the
purchase of a 1978 Simplicity snowblower.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Nichols, to request .the City Clerk to authorize the purchase
of a 1978 Simplicity snow blower, 8 h.p., 28" with Briggs & Stratton engine and chains
at a cost of $542.85 as recommended by the Senior Public Works Person. Motion carried
unanimously.
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COMMITTEE TO NEGOTIATE FOR LAND PURCHASES - ORDINANCE REVIEW - PARK LAND REVIEW
There was some discussion on whether the Commission should volunteer the services of
those not present. Glen Rogers stated they do it all the time in the Army.
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The following people volunteered for each committee:
.. j LAND PURCHASE NEGOTIATIONS
Wes Mand
Tom Curtis
Glen Rogers - if he had time as he is campaigning for a Council seat.
ORDINANCE REVISION
Steve Nichols
Edna Meyer
Gary Anderson
PARK LAND REVIEW
Wes Mand
Bill LeFebvre
RUM RIVER HOCKEY ASSOC. (added agenda item)
Roger Anderson representing the Rum River Hockey Association requests that another row
boards be placed around the City Hall hockey rink to raise it about 10" in order to
make it safer. When asked what this would cost, Mr. Anderson stated he hadn't checked
into it. He was then asked to obtain price estimates including the boards and bolts
and return to the next regularly scheduled meeting. By that time, the Commission should
have an idea what is left in the 1978 budget and what they could expect for 1979.
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Mr. Anderson suggested that this year the hockey rink be cleared of all weeds and stubble
before flooding begins. The problem in the past has been thick ice i~ order to obtain a
smooth surface which reduces the height of the boards somewhat. Also suggested was in
the initial flooding, possibly the sprinkler could be used to start the first layer of
ice. In the past it has been initially flooded too fast and the water doesn't get a
chance to freeze and sinks right in the sand. YBnY manhours could be saved if the water
had a chance to freeze before more was placed on top. Chairman Mand thought possibly
the fire department could burn off the weeds in the rink for practice. lIT. Anderson
commented the East Bethel Fire Department floods the hockey rink in that area. He also
asked the Commission to think about either enlarging the existing warming house or perhaps
obtaining another one. There are times when the existing warming house is too small due
to the number of players. Another entrance to the hockey rink was also discussed.
PARK TOUR (added agenda item)
It was decided to schedule a special meeting for a park tour on Saturday, October 21, 1978
at 12:00 noon. The secretary was asked to check with the City Clerk to see if the City's
station wagon could be used as the Road Improvement Committee used it during their tour.
MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Rogers to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 10:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
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