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Home My WebLink AboutSeptember 7, 1978 (J L) ,) City of clf-ndo(7e~ 1685 CROSSTOWN BLVD, N.W. ANOKA, MINNESOTA 55303 (612) 755-5100 PARK/RECREATION COMMITTEE MEETING - SEPTEMBER 7, 1978 MINUTES The Meeting was called to order by Chairman Mand at 7:30 p.rn. September 7, 1978 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W. Commission Members Present: Anderson, Curtis, LeFebvre, Meyer, Nichols & Rogers Commission Members Absent: None Also Present: W. Johnson, N. Hagman, G. Fishback and others,- Crooked Lake School; Ray Sowada, Sr. Public Works Person; Tom O'Malley, Pine Hills Pre. Plat Derril Burger, Rum River Forest Pre. Plat; Linda Johnson, Johnson's Field PARK MAINTENANCE '\ ) Ray Sowada told the Commission the flail on the big tractor is still broken. He has been told by Anderson-Koch the part needed to fix it has to be shipped in from Detroit. Chairman Mand stated he would like to see Ray make up a monthly mowing schedule and see that the mowable parks are mowed on at least a monthly basis or more if needed depending upon weather conditions. A schedule should also be made for rink flooding and plowing. Ray advised the three CETA people have been trimming the trees and brush clearing in some of the parks including the red schoolhouse. He said he boarded up the windows and filled the well with sand so no one could fall in. Edna Meyer commented there is poison ivy in Shady Knoll Park that should be removed. Ray was asked what type of equipment he feels is needed in order to better maintain the parks. At this point in time he thought a weed eater and a small hand lawn mower in order to get in places where the tractors cannot get through. Chairman Mand asked him to prepare a list in priority order and submit them to the Commission for consideration. Ray stated he hadn't had a chance to look into the snowblower recommended to be purchased the first part of the year but will check on it. He thought possibly this purchase could be a cost sharing item between the Park/Recreation Commission and other departments. CROOKED LAKE SCHOOL PROPOSED PARK SITE \ ) Mr. Fishback had revised the drawing of the proposed park site and stated the changes made are less expensive. The footbridge was deleted entirely as the estimated cost is $40,000.00. This drawing contains a nature trail, cedar playground structure, ball- fields, a jungle jim, slides and swings, rinks, a sliding hill, tennis court and a nature center/warming house. The hockey rink shown is 3/4's regulation size and the Commission felt it should be full size as it would get more use through tournament practices, etc. It should also be placed closer to the school's water supply. One problem was filling the hole but they felt by grading some areas and pushing the sand into the hole would help somewhat. It would cost approximately $15,000 to fill it if fill was purchased and hauled in. Future expansion of the school was brought up and Mr. Johnson stated there is no proposed future expansion of the school as they are now stablized. Glen Rogers asked if the proposed parking lot expansion would be for the (J Page #2 Park/Recreation Commission Minutes - September 7, 1978 \~ / use of the school or the playground. 1~. Johnson said it was for the playground. It was also suggested the wood nature center/warming house be instead concrete for longevity and ease of maintenance. Nancy Hagman then passed out cost estimates spread out over the next four years. For all years, the Commission felt the labor cost could be cut drastically if done by volunteer help. The sprinkler system and seeding should be the last thing done due to possible location changes. Under a Joint Powers Agreement, 10% would be paid by the Advisory Council, 30% by the School District and 60% by the Municipality. Nancy Hagman advised they would not be eligible for any grant money until 1980. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Curtis, that the Park/Recreation Commission approves the concept of the proposed playground/park site improvement at Crooked Lake School as presented by the Advisory Council and others. The Commission is not recommending any allocation of monies to be spent nor entering into a Joint Powers Agreement with the School District at this time. After reviewal of the plan by the City Council, if they feel funds would be available for the first year's development, they should then arrange to enter into a Joint Powers Agreement and then provide the funds for this project. Motion carried unanimously. The secretary was asked to arrange to have this subject placed on the next City Council agenda, September 19, 1978. Break 9:30 - 9:45 PINE HILLS PRELIMINARY PLAT " Mr. O'Malley advised this plat was not approved by the Planning and Zoning Commission as it had to be revised. The revision resulted in less park area. When the land south of this is developed, park land could still be dedicated to tie in with Pine Hills thereby making a larger park. , / MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Anderson, to accept the proposed park land shown on the Pine Hills Preliminary Plat totalling 4.4 acres and that the balance of 1.9 acres be cash in lieu of land. Vote on moition: Yes - Anderson, Curtis, LeFebvre, Meyer, Nichols and Rogers. No - Mand. Motion carried on 6-1 vote. RUM RIVER HILLS PRELIMINARY PLAT Mr. Derril Burger presented his plat. The proposed park land looked very low and swampy. The Commission decided to physically look at the property over the weekend before making any recommendations. Mr. Burger stated he would be willing to give money in lieu of land. Chairman Nand asked each of the Commission members to call the secretary on Monday morning to give their opinion "SO a recommendation could be made in time for the Planning and Zoning meeting that night. RUM RIVER HILLS PRELIMINARY PLAT CONTINUED - MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 1978 The Park/Recreation Commission recommends not to accept the proposed park land on this preliminary plat for the following reasons:-- \ ..J 1. In cheCking with nearby residents, they state a large percentage of the area floods every ~ar. 2. The only access to the park would be on 7th Ave. The residents who will be living in this area would find it very difficult to get to the park due to the terrain. I ,/ " Page #3 Park/Recreation \. ,.J!Ilission Minutes - September 7, 1978 . '\ V 3. The river frontage is inaccessible at present and would require a road. \ j 4. A large percentage of the parcel is approx. 6" over the water table. 5. Existing shoreland laws would control development of the parcel. JOHNSON' 3 FIEID Linda Johnson stated they did not want to give up lots 5, 6, and 7, Block 3, as these may be considered buildable lots once the new flood plain figures are received. Chairman Mand conunented that at this time the lots night not be buildable for houses without alot of fill but certainly were suitable for park land. Mrs. Johnson wanted it on record that they would be willing to pay two or three times the amount of dedication money involved in order to keep these lots as future building sites. MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Meyer, to reconunend that the City Council accept Lots, 5, 6 and 7, Block 3, as dedicated park land on the Johnson's Field Preliminary Plat. Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Anderson, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 11:20 p.m. tfully submitted: C~ ae Ellen Bakke Secretary \ / \ ) - � o ~) 8 DTY of ANDOVER 0 M E M 0 RAN 0 U M TO: Mayor and Council COPIES TO: City Clerk FROM: Park/Recreation Commission DATE:: September 15, 1978 REFERENCE: Crooked Lake School Improvement The following motion was made at the Park/Recreation Commission's September 7, 1978 meeting and is for your consideration: MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Curtis, that the Park/Recreation Commission approves the concept of the proposed playground/park site improvement at Crooked Lake School as presented by the Advisory Council and others. The Commission is not recommending any allocation of monies to be spent nor entering into a Joint Powers Agreement with the School District at this time. After reviewal of the plan by the City Council, if they feel funds would be available for the first year's development, they should then arrange to enter into a Joint Powers Agreement and then provide the funds for this project. Motion carried unanimously. dJ'AJ Wes Mand, Chairman Park/Recreation Commission rb Q"y 01 ANDOVER 0 ~ MEMORANDUM TO: Mayor and Council COPIES TO: Planning and Zoning Commission FROM: Park/Recreation Commission DATE:: September 11, 1978 REFERENCE: Pine Hills Preliminary Plat The Park/Recreation Commission at their September 7, 1978 meeting made the following motion which is for your consideration: MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Anderson, to accept the proposed park land shown on the Pine Hills Preliminary Plat totalling 4.4 acres and that the balance of 1.9 acres be cash in lieu of land. Vote on motion: Yes - 6; No-I. Motion carried on 6-1 vote. /--, ~ ~~t o Wes nd, Cha rmanf Park/Recreation Commission o n u CITY 01 ANDOVER r---, MEMORANDUM o COPIES TO: Mayor and Council Planning & Zoning Commission TO: FROM: Park/Recreation Commission DATE:: September 11, 1978 REFERENCE: Rum River Forest Preliminary Plat Various members of the Park/Recreation Commission went out this weekend and physically checked the proposed park land on the Rum River Forest preliminary plat. The Park/Recreation Commission recommends not to accept the proposed park land on this preliminary plat for the following reasons:--- 1. In checking with nearby residents, they state a large percentage of the area floods every year. 2. The only access to the park would be on 7th Ave. The residents who will be living c=) in this area would find it very difficult to get to the park due to the terrain. 3. The river frontage is inaccessible at present and would require a road. 4. A large percentage of the parcel is approx. 6" over the high water table. 5. Existing shoreland laws would control the development of the parcel. ({!k ~7.1L~ Wes Mand, Cha rman Park/Recreation Commission o r~ o 8 ~~ (j 0 C.-.TY 01 ANDOVER M E M 0 RAN DUM TO: Mayor and Council COPIES TO: Planning and Zoning Commission FROM: Park/Recreation Commission DA TE:: September 11, 1978 REFERENCE: Johnson's Field Preliminary Plat The Park/Recreation Commission at their September 7, 1978 meeting made the following motion which is for your consideration: MOTION by LeLebvre, seconded by Meyer, to recommend that the City Council accept Lots 5, 6 and 7 as dedicated park land on the Johnson's Field Preliminary Plat. Motion carried unanimously. dL~~~ Wes Mand, Chairman Park/Recreation Commission