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PARK COMMISSION MEETING - SEPTEMBER 6, 1979
MINUTES
The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Park Commission was called to order by Chairman
Mand at 7:30 p.m., September 6, 1979, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W.
Commission Members Present:
Commission Member Absent:
Also Present:
Anderson, LeFebvre, Longbella, Meyer & Nichols
Rogers
Roger Anderson and other$ Rum River Hockey Assoc.
Larry Bross, Soderville Athletic Assoc.
Nancy Hagman, SUllIITIer/Community School
ORD. #47 - PARK COMMISSION
The City Council adopted this ordinance on August 23, 1979. Under 2.12 A., Chairman Mand
felt it should have read, "When camping in designated areas."
MINUTE APPROVAL
MOTION by Meyer, seconded by Anderson, to approve the April 5, 1979 minutes as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
May 3, 1979 - correct spelling of McAvoy. Page 2 regarding Hawk Ridge Park Lease, last
sentence should read.... "felt he should have first chance. MOTION by Nichols, seconded
by Longbella, to approve the May 3, 1979 minutes with corrections. Motion carried unanimously.
May 17, 1979 - under Grant Applications, third line, change to boat launch project.
by Longbella, seconed by ~Xand, to approve the May 17, 1979 minutes with corrections.
carried unanimously.
MOTION
Motion
MOTION by Meyer,seconded by Anderson, to approve the June 7 and June 14, 1979 minutes as
wri tten. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Longbella, to approve the June 27, June 28 and August 2, 1979
minutes as written. Motion carried unanimously.
EQUIPMENT PURCHASES
Roger Anderson stated he obtained two quotes for lumber for the hockey rink. Knox Lumber
quoted a total of $3139.96 for a new rink; $403.58 to add one board to the existing rink.
Scherer Bros. quoted $2199.10 for a new rink; $439.82 to add one board. The angle iron and
bolts would be about $290.00. They would put in two gates, one for each team, on the east
side of the rink. Bill LeFebvre asked how long the posts were. He was told they were 7 ft.
long, about 3 ft. below ground. Discussed was whether or not to add the boards to the bottom.
It was agreed this would not be a good idea mainly due to the amount of dirt that would have
to be removed with no equipment.
MOTION by Meyer to authorize the Rum River Hockey Association to purchase for the City of
Andover boards and angle iron to add an extra set of boards to the existing hockey rink at
City Hall at a cost not to exceed $800.00.
~iScussion: Lyle Molskness asked the Commission to
how old is it? How long do you expect the posts to
are cedar treated posts and will last a long time.
consider the shape of the hockey rink -
last? Roger Anderson informed him they
Edna Meyer commented in time a new rink
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will be needed. Chairman Mand asked what did the Association want in priority order. No.1,
a new rink; No.2, a new warming house; No.3, another set of boards added to the existing
r~rink was the answer. Mrs. Richmond stated she had a current figure for a new rink complete
~With lights. This figure, which is $5600.00, includes the lumber, gate for a plow, two gates
for players, players boxes, fences, paint, etc. In response to a question regarding l~ghts
she stated they were mercury vapor, eight poles. This figure does not include labor. The
members of the Hockey Association assured the Commission they had plenty of volunteer help.
A new warming house was then discussed. Mrs. Richmond stated a contractor gave her an
estimate of $17.00 per square foot complete for a block building. One-half of the cost is
material, the other half is heating/lighting. Mr. Molslmess then complained about the
condition of the present warming house, ie., too small, heating system is bad, unsafe, now
the windows have been broken, the Building Inspector has condemned it, etc. The Coromission
agreed the present warming house is totally inadequate. Mrs. Richmond then advised there
are State requirements for warming houses now, one being a minimum of 15 sq. ft. per person.
With two teams there could be 60 players plus parents, etc. They went on to explain the
facili ties at Anoka (which has a concession stand), Ramsey and Ham Lake. Chairman Mand
advised a warming house is a capital improvement item and this committee is meeting shortly.
A new warming house will be considered in next year's budget. The location of the proposed
warming house was then discussed. Between the existing rink and the new rink (north) would
be the most practical location. A road could be made starting at the north end of the
parking lot to gain access to the warming house and new rink. The Association felt a 30' x 40'
concrete building would be adequate. It could be designed for multiple use and contain
plumbing. The Association would also like to see a concession stand installed. Motion
withdrawn.
MOTION by Anderson, seconded by LeFebvre, to recommend the City Council authorize the Rum
River Hockey Association to construct a complete hockey rink with lights at City Hall at
City expense for a cost not to exceed $5600.00. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion: Lyle Molslmess commented the ice was excellent last year, and that the year
before it was horrible.
SODERVILLE ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION
Chairman Mand asked Larry Bross if his Association needed anything. He said nothing but
fields, preferably in the southern area. They have 200-250 players but most of them are
from the northern area. They would like to draw players from the south end of town.
Chairman Mand explained that there is no City park in this area large enough at present
but advised him of the proposed park in Woodland Terrace. He further advised Pine Hills
has been graded for a field and the Coromission is planning on purchasing a backstop for
this park. In response to a question, Mr. Bross thought a top panel on the backstop was
necessary. He felt a backstop for Pine Hills was a good idea but again stressed the
southern area. He then commented that City Staff did a super job in maintaining the City
Hall field this summer.
SOCCER ASSOCIATION
The Coromission was advised the Soccer Association has made five goals. Bill LeFebvre said
they did but they are not regulation size. Whether or not purchasing combination soccer/foot-
ball goals was discussed. Even though there has been no request yet for football, there
will be if only soccer goals are purchased. Soccer can be played on a football field. He
asked that another field be created, possibly on the other side of the tennis courts. The
,- ~resent field is not long enough to play on. Since the present parking lot is too small when
'---fnore than one acti vi ty is going on, Chairman Mand thought an area behind the new public
services building would be a good location.
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SUMMER/CCNMUNITY SCHOOL
/ 'The Commission had received copies of the fall brochure and the welcome booklet. Nancy
\'jHagman asked if there were any questions. There were none. Next year baseball will
be a four day program instead of two. The program will not be held in Northwoods as it
did not draw any people this sununer. Her Recreation on Wheels program was a success. Next
year Dayton, Ramsey and Champlin will be running the same program. There was good attendance
in seven of the parks. Poor attendance was at City Hall and Cedar Crest. Next year the
program will not be held in these two parks but she still wanted nine sites. Suggested was
Pine Hills, Fox Meadows and Meadowood. She then mentioned the maintenance was very good
in all the parks plus the "parkkeepers" were very helpful. Next year they are going to
separate the activities at Crooked Lake School into different age groups. At times they
had sixty kids with only two leaders and it was difficult to schedule activities that were
of interest to everybody.
CROOKED LAKE SCHOOL PROJECT
Nancy advised there will be no grant money available for this project so they are considering
alternatives. One plan is to eliminate, for now, the hockey/skating rinks and the warming
house and get some good backstops up. The school is willing to spend $200-$250 for a backstop
right now. What they would like is a better backstop for approx. $750.00. She stated after
school hours the fields would be open to Andover's athletic associations; they would have
first priority in scheduling and that she would most likely be the person doing the scheduling.
No definite figures were given to the Coromission but Nancy felt the total cost would be
$24,000.00 - $10,000 paid by the School District - $10,000 paid by the City - and $4,000 by
the Advisory Council. She was advised that 1/3 of the total budget is for the Sununer/Cammunity
School programs. Any money alloted for the school project would actually come out of the
land dedication fees. These fees are to be used only for the improvement of City parks;
Crooked Lake School is not a City Park. Nancy then stated she was proposing this for the
City, the improvement would not directly benefit the school. They have already spent $1,000
in filling the hole. Chairman Mand said filling the hole was not the City's responsibility
as it was created for the school's use - homeowners, at their own expense, had to fill their
tanks when the sanitary sewer lines came through. He noted a good share of the project is
playground equipment and felt this should have a low priority since there is existing useable
equipment. He also feels the School District should take alot more responsibility as they
have a much larger tax base and much greater funding reserves. Nancy countered she felt the
School District was doing more than their share. It cost $500 for insurance for the National
Guard to have the hole filled and she didn't know who was paying for the seed. Chairman
Nand thought $500 to have that hole filled was a bargain. Nancy was sure the School District
would not pay more than the City, but that was their decision. Edna Meyer felt if any City
money at all was spent on this project, it should be over and above what the Council would
normally budget the Park Commission. Chairman MEnd stated he felt the project should be split
over a three year period instead of doing it in one year. During the discussion Nancy stated
the City's share would be a maximum of $10,000, $6250.00 would be a more realistic figure.
She agreed to present the Council with a three year program, (approx. $2,000 per year) and
ask that this money be in addition to what is normally budgeted for the Park Commission. They
will concentrate on the ballfields and athletic fields before the equipment. The Commission
felt there should be no City participation in the purchase of any playground equipment. On
the SUbject of maintenance, Nancy stated the School District would mow the fields but not
line them. She then showed some displeasure over the frequency of mowing at the school this
summer.
MAINTENANCE
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'~Chairman Mand asked the secretary to send letters of commendation to the maintenance
personnel, including the CETA boys, for the nice job they did in the parks this summer.
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1980 GRANT APPLICATION
"Chairman Mand advised the Commission the way he reads the rules, the State will hold the
'--"funds for one yee:r after final acquisition of the land. They, the DNR, are also negotiating
to purchase three parcels, to include Hellum's. They want to wait on the public hearing
until they are further along in the negotiations with the landowners. Professor McAvoy
stated he has two students who are willing to work on the site plan for the boat landing.
The JayCees might take this on as a project. They would do the work and develop the site.
EQUIPMENT PURCHASE PRIORITIES
The Coromission had received copies of the equipment purchase priority list and further
prioritized it depending on how long the money would last and also changed the boards
for the hockey rink to a new hockey rink. They were advised current price catalogs would
not be available until the end of this month. The list is attached.
MOTION by Meyer, seconded by Anderson, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 12:01 a.m.
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1. Sandpoints
8 points and 200 ft. of pipe
3 for Northwoods
$ 800.00
2.
New
Hockey Rink at City Hall
5600.00
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Soccer & Football combination
2 Goals
1 for Fox Meadows (B.)
1 for City Hall (A.)
Goals
2,600.00
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Baseball Back Stops
(crushed lime for infields)
3 Backstops
1 for Pine Hills
2 for Woodland Terrace
2,200.00
(A. )
(B. )
5. Swing Sets
4 swing sets
1 for Quickstrom
1 for Fox Meadows
1 for City Hall
1 for Cedar Crest
2,400.00
(c. )
(D. )
(A. )
(B. )
Basketball back board, hoop & net
1 for Green Acres
400.00
Domed climer
2 climers
1 for Shady Knoll
1 for Fox Meadows
410.00
(A. )
(B. )
Jungle Jim
1 for Quickstrom
500.00
Grill
1 for Boat Landing
55.00
Picnic Tables
2 for Boat Landing
400.00
Benches
3 benches
1 for boat Landing
1 for Northwoods Tennis Courts
1 for City Hall Tennis Courts
400.00
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Trees
500.00
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MEMO
DATE: September 27, 1979
TO: Andover City Council
FROM: Jim Stewart and Nancy Hagman
RE: Andover Summer Program
The intent of this memo is to share with you, at the next council meeting October 2 at
Andover City Hall, several thoughts and concerns with regard to the Andover Summer
Program.
It was brought to our attention that the summer programs monies have been removed
from the preliminary budget for 1980. We feel the city council did not have all the data
and we would like to share with you additional information that should be considered
before the summer program is eliminated totally.
Essentially we see the problem as two-fold:
1. Staffing: Under the budget that you did approve provides a 12 month salary for
Nancy with no funds to operate the summer program.
2. Enrollment: For the past four years the residents of Andover have had a summer
program which has reached a large number of Andover residents. This year there
was a significant increase in enrollments due to the morning program on wheels
concept that was developed by Nancy.
Our hope is to discuss the ramifications of your decision and to explore alternatives that
would seem appropriate to include:
1. Refunding of the summer program.
2. A skeletal program funded with minimal dollars.
3. A reduced basic allocation subsidized with a basic fee that would be charged to
all participants.
If you have any questions or would like additional information, don't hesitate to give me or
Nancy a call. Looking forward to discussing this with you the 2nd.
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September 5, 1979
O. Warne Linton
21052 Lake George Blvd. N.W.
Anoka, Minn. 55303
Dear Mr. Linton:
Will you please sign the enclosed lease agreement and return it
along with3Qur check for $125.00.
Thank you.
Very truly yours,
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THIS AGREEMENT, made and entered into this
5th
day of .Inn'"
, 1979,
by and between the CITY OF ANDOVER, a Municipal Corporation, hereinafter called the
CITY and O. WARNE LINTON, hereinafter referred to as LESSEE.
That in consideration of the sum of One Hundred Twenty-Five Dollars ($125.00)
and the covenants and agreements hereinafter mentioned and performed by the respective
parties hereto, the CITY lease and let to the LESSEE that real property known as Hawk
Ridge Park located in Section 4, Township 32, Range 24 in the said CITY.
1.
TERM
This Lease will COIImlence on June 5
, 1979 and shall continue thereafter
until December 3,11979, provided that the CITY may terminate the Lease by giving
30 days notice to the City. Notice by either party shall be given in writing and
delivered to the other personally or by registered mail.
II.
USE PERMITTED
The Lessee shall use the above described property only for the purpose of
harvesting hay. Such purpose shall include but not be limited to cutting, raking,
baling and removing hay from said property. The Lessee shall have full obligation and
right to schedule all activities relating to the harvesting of hay.
III.
LIABILITY INSURANCE
That the Lessee shall at all times during the term thereof, at his own
expense, maintain and keep in force for the mutual benefit of the City and the Lessee,
general public liability insurance against claims or personal injury, death or property
damage occurring in, on or about SUbject property. The Lessee shall also indemnify
and save harmless the City from any loss, expense, cost or damage for or on account of
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activities related to the use of subject property as set forth in this Agreement by
the Lessee.
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IV.
ENTIRE AGREEMENT
It is understood and agreed that the entire agreement of the parties is
contained herein and that this Lease supersedes all oral agreements and negotiations
between the parties relating to the subject matter hereof as well as previous agreements
presently in effect between the parties relating to the subject matter hereof.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the parties have signed this Lease on the above-mentioned
date.
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SUMMER RECREATION PROGRAM
ENROLLMENT FIGURES
1979
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'---./ A. MORNING PLAYGROUND - RECREATION ON WHEELS!
Locations
1. Shady Knoll
2. Chapman's
3. Northwoods West
4. Red Oaks West
5. City Hall
6. Crooked Lake
7. Quickstrom
8. Cedar Crest
9. Langseth
Total No. of Children
That Came at Some Time
Durin~ the Summer
11
25
29
31
5
36
28
4
38
204
Daily Avera~e
6
11
12
19
2
14
11
2
13
90*
*Last year's enrollment figures indicate an average attendance of 16 at Crooked
Lake School and 12 at City Hall and Aztec -- daily average for morning
playground in 1978 was then 28.
B. AFTERNOON PLAYGROUND
1. Crooked Lake
2. Aztec
3. City Hall
150
42
16
208
38
18
6
62
4. Thursday special events average = 74
Total participation in Special Thursday activities = 433
C. BASEBALL
4 Cub Teams - 45
4 Tuffies Teams - 41
2 Pee Wees Teams- 20
1 Ponies Team - 13
119
D. LITTLE SCHOOL - 52
E. ARCHERY - 12
F. TENNIS - 16
G. TEENS - 35
H. BASEBALL AND KALEIDESCOPE ENROLLMENTS AT THE SUMMER SCHOOL SITES -75
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TO:
Mayor and City Council
Planning and Zoning Commission
COPIES TO:
FROM:
Park Coromission
DATE::
September 21, 1979
REFERENCE:
Birchwood Pond Preliminary Plat
The following motion was made at the September 20th Park Commission meeting and is
for your consideration:
MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Rogers, to recommend the City Council accept $2000.00
in lieu of park land on the Birchwood Pond Preliminary Plat. Motion carried unanimously.
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1. Sandpoints
8 points and 200 ft. of pipe
3 for Northwoods
$ 800.00
2.
New
Hockey Rink at City Hall
5600.00
3.
Soccer & Football combination
2 Goals
1 for Fox Meadows (B.)
1 for City Hall (A.)
Goals
2,600.00
4.
Baseball Back Stops
(crushed lime for infields)
3 Backstops
1 for Pine Hills
2 for Woodland Terrace
2,200.00
(A. )
(B. )
5. Swing Sets
4 sQ"ing sets
1 for Quickstrom
1 for Fox Meadows
1 for City Hall
1 for Cedar Crest
2,400.00
(c. )
(D. )
(A. )
(B. )
Basketball back board, hoop & net
1 for Green Acres
400.00
Domed climer
2 climers
1 for Shady Knoll
1 for Fox Meadows
410.00
(A. )
(B. )
Jungle Jim
1 for Quickstrom
500.00
Grill
1 for Boat Landing
55.00
Picnic Tables
2 for Boat Landing
400.00
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Benches
3 benches
1 for boat Landing
1 for Northwoods Tennis Courts
1 for City Hall Tennis Courts
400.00
Trees
500.00
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Mayor and City Council
CO PI ES TO:
City Clerk
FROM:
Park Corrunission
DATE::
September 11, 1979
REFERENCE:
Park Equipment Purchase Requests
In checking records, the Park Corrunission has found the amount of $16,455.00 exists
over and above their 1979 budget.
$24,963.88 - Park dedication fees received as of 8-23-79.
- 9,500.00 - Park dedication fees shown as revenue in 1979 budget.
- 2,755.00 - Kadlec Add. (allocated)
- 4,078.88 - Lund's Evergreen Estates (allocated
$ 8,630.00 - Unallocated dedication fees
1,825.00 - Left in original $3500.00 allocated out of 1977 surplus.
6,000.00 - Allocated to parks out of 1978 surplus per April 19, 1979 Council meeting.
$16,455.00
The Coromission has compiled a list of equipment in priority order and requests the City
Council to authorize the purchase of the following equipment: It should be noted that
some of these items may not be purchased in the quantity shown. This is due to current
price lists not being available until the end of September or October and also shipping
charges for the most part are F.O.B. factory and are running $12.00 per hundredweight.
1.
Sandpoints
8 points and 200 ft. of pipe
3 for Northwoods
$ 800.00
2.
New hockey rink at City Hall
This is covered by the memo dated 9-10-79. The Rum River
Hockey Association assures the Commission a complete hockey
rink with lights can be erected using their volunteer help.
5,600.00
3.
Soccer & football combination goals
2 goals
1 for Fox Meadows (B)
1 for City Hall (A)
2,600.00
4.
Baseball back stops
(crushed lime for infields)
1 for Pine Hills (A)
2 for Woodland Terrace (B)
2,200.00
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Swing sets
4 swing sets
1 for Quickstrom (C)
1 for Fox Meadows CD)
1 for City Hall (A)
1 for Cedar Crest (B)
2,400.00
6. Basketball baclr-board, hoop & net
1 for Green Acres
400.00
7. Domed climbers
2 climbers
1 for Shady Knoll (A)
1 for Fox Meadows (B)
410.00
8. Jungle Jim
1 for Quickstrom
500.00
9. Grill
1 for boat landing
55.00
400.00
10. Picnic tables
2 for boat landing
11. Benches
3 benches
1 for boat landing
1 for Northwoods Tennis Courts
1 for City Hall Tennis Courts
400.00
12. Trees
500.00
The initials behind some items are a "sub-priority" dependent upon current prices and
shipping charges. I will be present, along with members of the Hockey Association, to
answer any questions you may have.
Wes Mand, Chairman
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Mayor and City Council
TO:
COPIES TO:
City Clerk
FROM:
Park Coromission
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September 10, 1979
REFERENCE:
New Hockey Rink at City Hall
The Park Commission made the following motion at their September 6, 1979 meeting and
is for your consideration:
MOTION by Anderson, seconded by LeFebvre, to recoromend the City Council authorize the
Rum River Hockey Association to construct a complete hockey rink with lights at City
Hall at City expense for a cost not to exceed $5600.00. Motion carried unanimously.
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Andover Park Coromission
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Andover City Council
1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W.
Anoka, Minn. 55303
Gentlemen:
I have in the past and will in the future be meeting with
the DNR and State Planning Agency regarding the 1980
grant applications. I am requesting the City reimburse
me at the rate of $10.00 per hour.
The reason for this request is that Honeywell has a
mandatory vacation period which has passed. In order
for me to leave work to attend meetings, I must take the
time off without pay.
Your consideration to my request will be greatly appreciated.
Very truly yours,
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Andover Park Coromission
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