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PARK/RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 7, 1979
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The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Park/Recreation Commission was called to order
by Chairman Mand at 7:34 p.m., June 7, 1979, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Blvd. N.W.
Commission Members Present:
Commission Member Absent:
Also Present:
Anderson, LeFebvre, Meyer, Nichols & Rogers
Longbella
Lary'Car1son & Sylvia Britton - Woodland Terrace
Preliminary Plat - LakeRidge Sketch Plan
Dan Christensen - Christensen Sketch Plan
Pa t Ahern
d'Arcy Bose11 - P & Z Chairman
DAN CHRISTENSEN SKETCH PLAN
This sketch plan consists of 9 lots on 27.76 acres in Section 12. The one street
will connect to 170th Ave. in Pingers Addition which has a large park. ~Ar. Christensen
expressed a desire to donate cash in lieu of land. North Birch Creek park is approx-
imately 4 blocks away. The Commission felt they would recommend cash in lieu of land
since the park would be less than three acres and there will be two large parks in the
vicini ty .
LAKERIDGE SKETCH PLAN
This sketch plan consists of 238 acres in Section 20. The park land shown is 22.4
acres and has two accesses. Mr. Carlson stated the park area is not buildable, but is
ideal for bal1fie1ds. He went on to explain the topography of the land. The park
reviewal committee met with Mr. Carlson at the site last Monday night. There is also a
hill in the park that would be suitable for sliding if some reshaping was done. d'Arcy
Bose11 advised nothing was mentioned at the P & Z meeting regarding the proposed park.
Mr. Ahrens, who lives in the area, asked what kind of a park this would be as it is now
a nature area. Mr. Carlson commented he saw three deer while mowing the area. Glen
Rogers stated the park is suitable for teen and adult programs such as softball, soccer,
etc. plus hockey. Mr, Ahrens was concerned that the City might want to put a drag strip,
or something similar, in the park. Mr. Carlson then explained this sketch plan is in
the process of being changed somewhat due to some lot frontages and street lengths. The
park might expand somewhat on the northeast side making the walkway larger. However, if
they are still short of the required 10%, he asked to pay the difference in cash. Since
the shortage is so small, the Commission felt this was reasonable. Glen Rogers asked
that the park be staked so staff doesn't end up mowing private property. Mr. Carlson
stated he puts corner irons in all his plats. The roads will also be blacktopped. Mr.
Carlson felt the east entrance could be used for a parking lot. However, Chairman Mand
thought a lot at the end of the 153rd cu1 de sac would be a better location since the
area is flatter. He then asked Mr. Carlson if there would be any excess fill generated
by road construction, thinking that possibly any excess could be used to reshape the
existing hill. Mr. Carlson did not know as the road profiles were not done.
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WOODLAND TERRACE PRELIMINARY PLAT
Mr. Carlson advised the Commission of some of the problems he has with this plat. Of
special interest to the Park Commission is that the park is now shown as a holding pond.
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Mr, Carlson is meeting with the City Engineer next Monday to discourage this as he is not
planning on the park being a ponding area, There is no place for the water to naturally
drain in~is entire area which creates a problem.
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At the Public Hearing, a few residents from Chapman's objected to the size of the parking
area, its location, and added traffic. Mr, Carlson explained to them this is a neighbor-
hood park which would not create an excessive amount of traffic. The ballfield would be
used for Little League and they usually come in a car pool. One Chapman resident stated
she was sure her teenagers would drive to the park. He felt the majority of Chapman's
residents were in favor of having the park improved, There will be four accesses to
the park. When the plat is redrawn, there will be an easement off 135th La. The Commission,
for the record, recommends the parking lot be placed off Poppy St, and not increased in size.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Anderson, to recommend that the City Council accept the
park land as shown on the Woodland Terrace Preliminary Plat and that the approximate
deficiency of 2.4 acres be cash in lieu of land in the amount of 10% of the market value;
further that this money be placed in escrow to be spent for improvement of this park and
adjoining Chapman's Park. Motion carried unanimously.
ORDINANCE 10D
d'Arcy Bosell stated this was referred back to the Park/Recreation Commission by the
City Council. She did not obtain Councilperson Jacobson's not~on this amendment nor
his notes on the swimming pool ordinance.
MEETING DATE
Since the next meeting falls during 4th of July week, the next regularly scheduled
meeting will be on Thursday, June 28, 1979.
ROSELLA SONSTEBY
The Commission received copies of a letter written by Mrs. Sonsteby which states in part
that she is willing to sell the City two lots she owns on Round Lake for a canoe access,
The price for the two lots is $30,000 - $10,000 cash - $20,000 for future development.
Noted was these are two unbuildable lots. Also mentioned in the letter is a petition
by the residents for this access. The secretary knew of no requests for park property
in this area. The Commission decided to write Mrs. Sonsteby a letter explaining their
disinterest in purChasing her property since the County access is so close,
CROOKED LAKE BOAT LANDING
Mr. HelIum has again complained of trespassers. Suggested was posting a copy of the
letter from Mr. Johnson, Principal of Crooked Lake School, stating they can park in the
school parking lot. Ray Sowada will be asked to order a no parking sign of this area.
PARK SITE PLANS
Chairman Mand received a letter from Prof. McAvoy of the U. of Minn. He is doing a two
year study of the Rum River which will be done next year, This study will be helpful
in the site plan for Rum River Forest.
PARK TOUR
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EXCLUSIVE USE PROCEDURE AND RELATED FORMS
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Chairman MEnd stated the Council did not like the idea of keys to the back door being
loaned out and felt this form should be disposed of. Once the lock box is installed
at City Hall, there will be no need to loan out a key, (The green lock box presently
at City Hall belongs to the Soderville Athletic Association.) The Council also
questioned why non-league youth groups over 18 have to pay $50.00.as outlined in the
proposed resolution. The secretary was asked to add the words "damage deposit" and
send it back to the Council for their reviewal,
GRANT APPLICATIONS
Chairman MEnd reported Nancy Hagman and he attended the meeting held by the State
Planning Agency on May 24th, Most of the Crooked Lake School project is not eligible
for grant monies. He then went on to explain what was and was not fundable. A boat
ramp on Crooked Lake has a very good chance of being 75% funded, Further, the DNR is
going to purchase the two parcels between the parks. The City would be responsible for
removing the houses and site preparation. He estimates it would cost approximately
$10-$12,000 for a concrete ramp with parking for 3-4 cars and trailers and $8-$10,000
to clear the site with some landscaping. If this project is 75% funded, the City's cost
would be about $5500.00. The Council, at their June 5th meeting, asked the Commission
to apply for this grant.
The School District is also going to apply for a grant. Mentioned was under the Park-
School Guidelines, the City would be responsible for over 60% of the School District's
cost. If they received a grant of only 12 1/2%, the City would have to pay 60% of the
remaining 87 1/2%. This could amount to a sizeable sum. Also, if this comes to pass,
the City would be responsible for the maintenance. It was the opinion of the Commission
that the City's money should be spent in City parks instead of improving and maintaining
school property.
EQUIPMENT PURCHASE
Chairman Mand explained the park dedication fees are used first for park expense before
budget money is touched. The secretary was asked to obtain an up-to-date list of park
expense so far this year by June 14th. There was some discussion in ordering backstops,
soccer goals, etc. Exactly what to order will be decided during the park tours. There
is poison ivy in Shady Knoll and Quickstrom parks - a weed sprayer plus poison should
be purchased. The Commission also felt the City Council should serioUSly start thinking
of hiring a full time park person due to the number of plats which have come in with usable
dedicated park land.
MOTION by Meyer, seconded by Nichols, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 11:00 p.m.
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M E M 0 RAN DUM
TO:
Mayor and City Council
COPIES TO:
Planning & Zoning Commission
FROM:
Park/Recreation Commission
DATE::
June 8, 1979
Woodland Terrace Preliminary Plat
REFERENCE:
The following motion was made at the Park/Recreation Commission Meeting, June 7, 1979,
and is for your consideration:
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Anderson, to recommend that the City Council accept
the park land as shown on the Woodland Terrace Preliminary Plat and that the
approximate deficiency of 2.4 acres be cash in lieu of land in the amount of 10%
of the market value; further that this money be placed in escrow to be spent for
improvement of this park and adjoining Chapman's Park. Motion carried unanimously.
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Wes Mand, Chairman
Park/Recreation Commission
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M E M 0 RAN DUM
TO:
Mayor and City Council
COPIES TO:
FROM:
Park/Recreation Commission
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June 12, 1979
REFERENCE:
Proposed Park Ordinance
Attached is a rough draft of the proposed park ordinance, The Park Commission
would like you to read it over for comments before sending it to the City Attorney
for his reviewal.
Yesterday the Andover Deputy advised he has received many complaints of road bikes
in Red Oaks West park and suggested a fence be strung across the Crosstown "entrance".
(Ref. 2.14)
Also, there have been complaints about bikes in Northwoods West park and pedal bikes
on the tennis court surface. (Ref. 2.12)
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es Mand, Chairm n
Park/Recreation Commission
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CITY OF ANDOVER
COUNTY OF ANOKA
STATE OF MINNESOTA
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ORDINANCE NO.
AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A PARK COMMISSION AND REGULATING CONDUCT IN PUBLIC PARKS; PROVIDING
FOR ENFORCEMENT; AND PRESCRIBING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION OF ITS PROVISIONS.
The City Council of the City of Andover does hereby ordain:
SECTION 1. There is hereby created a Park Commission.
1.1 COMPOSITION The Parks Commission shall consist of seven (7) members. The members
shall be appointed by the City Council by a majority vote. A member may be removed
at any time by a majority vote of the City Council..
A. Terms of Office The seven (7) Commission members shall be appointed for a three
year term. Terms shall expire on January 1. Original and successive appointees
shall hold their offices until their successors are appointed. Vacancies during a
term shall be filled by the City Council for the unexpired portion of the term.
B. Absences Three consecutive unexused absences of a member from duly called
Commission meetings shall constitute automatic resignation from office. Deter-
mination that an absence is unexcused shall be in the discretion of the
Commission Chairperson.
C. Compensation All Commission members shall serve with such compensation as may be
set by resolution of the City Council.
1.2 PARK COMMISSION CHAIRPERSON The City Council shall appoint a Chairperson from among
the appointed Commission members for a term of one year; the Commission may create
and fill such other offices as it may deem necessary for its own administration. The
Commission Chairperson shall attend City Council meetings upon the request of the
City Council.
1.3 MEETINGS The Park Commission shall hold two regular meetings per month on the first
and third Thursdays of the month. The Commission may hold as many additional meetings
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per month as the City Council or Park Commission may deem necessary. The Commission
shall adopt rules for the transaction of business and shall keep a record of its
resolutions, transactions and findings.
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This Commission shall study' and advise the City Council concerning the City parks
and recreation programs.
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The Commission is responsible to the City Council for all property and programs
relating to parks and recreation. The Commission shall be responsible for
coordinating maintenance, improvements, upkeep and operation of all public parks.
1.6 Fees and deposits shall be reviewed by the Commission on an annual basis and a
recommendation made to the City Council,
SECTION 2. The use and occupancy of public parks and recreation areas owned, rented
and/or leased by and located in the City of Andover shall be subject to
the following regulations:
2,1 No firearms, air rifles, B.B. guns, sling shots, explosive or fireworks shall be
brought into or used in park areas.
2.2 Gambling, excessive use of alcoholic beverages, or abusive, boisterous, profane
or indecent language, conduct or attire will not be allowed.
2.3 No person shall possess, display, consume or use narcotics or drugs in any park.
(Drugs shall mean any controlled substance, as defined by Chapter 152 of Minnesota
Statutes and successor Statutes, the possession of which is a violation of
Minnesota Statutes 152.09 and successor Statutes.)
2.4 No advertising, selling or solicitation is allowed in parks or recreation areas.
A. An Exclusive Use Permit may be approved by the City Council and issued by
the City Clerk for the selling of food, alcoholic or non-alcoholic beverages
as set out in Section 2.21.
2.5 Pets must be kept leashed or under control. Horses will be allowed only in
designated areas. No person in a park shall hunt, molest, harm, frighten, kill,
trap, chase, tease, shoot or throw missiles at any animal, reptile or bird; nor
shall any person remove or have in his possession the young of any wild animal or
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the eggs or nest or young of any reptile or bird; exception to the foregoing is
made in that snakes known to be poisonous, such as rattle snakes or other hazardous
to human safety may be killed or removed. No person shall give, offer or attempt
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It shall be unlawful to remove, cut or otherwise deface any tree or ground cover
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in any park without consent from the Park Commission and written permission from
the City Clerk or her representative.
2.7 It shall be unlawful to willfully mark, deface, disfigure, injure, tamper with or
displace or remove any buildings, bridges, playground equipment, tables, benches,
fireplaces, railings, paving or paving materials, public utilities or parts or
appurtenances thereof, signs, notices (whether temporary or permanent), monuments,
stakes, posts, equipment, facilities or park property or appurtenance, whatsoever
either real or personal.
2,8 It shall be unlawful to litter, cast, bring in and dump, or allow rubbish or trash
of any nature to remain undisposed in or about any park.
2.9 It shall be unlawful to throw, discharge or otherwise place or cause to be placed
in the waters of any fountain, pond, stream, river, bay or other body of water,
whether in or adjacent to any park or any tributary stream, storm sewer, or drain
flowing into such water, any substance, matter or thing,(liquid or solid) which
will or may result in pollution of said water.
2.10 It shall be unlawful for anyone to interfere with the Park Commission or their
appointed representatives in the performance of their duty.
2.11 Active games shall be lilnited to designated play areas.
2.12 No person or persons shall engage in racing or playing of any games which interferes
with the general use of designated play areas, This section shall be construed,
but not lilnited, to prohibit the use of sled, toboggans, snowmobiles on any skating
rink, or other such conflicts of use.
2.13 It shall be unlawful to ride or drive a vehicle at a rate of speed exceeding
fifteen (15) miles per hour, or as posted, in City parks.
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Drivers shall confine the operation of any motorized vehicle to roads, parking areas,
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or such other areas as may specifically be designated as a temporary parking area
by the City Council and/or their designated representatives.
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It shall be unlawful
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for ~ny self-propelled vehicle, including but not limited to
motor vehicles as defined in Minnesota Statute, Chapter 169, other self-propelled
:--\ vehicles, go-carts, and snowmobiles, to travel within City parks, except on
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established roadways, trails, or other areas designated for such purpose within
said parks.
2.16 It shall be unlawful to leave a vehicle standing or parked after 11:00 p.m. at
night and before 6:00 a.m. in the morning except under the following conditions:
A. When camping in an area designed for such purpose.
B. When participating in an activity for which a permit has been
granted by the City of Andover.
2.17 Public parks and recreation areas shall not be occupied or used between 11:00 p.m.
and 6:00 a.m. the following day except under the conditions outlined in Section 2.16.
2.18 It shall be unlawful to build or attempt to build a fire except in such areas as
designated for such purpose. No person shall drop, throw, or otherwise scatter
lighted matches, burning cigarettes or cigars, tobacco, paper or other flammable
material within any park area,' on any highway, road or street abutting or
contiguous thereto.
2.19 It shall be unlawful to solicit alms or contributions for any purpose, whether
public or private within any park area.
2,20 It shall be unlawful to paste, glue, tack or otherwise post any sign, placard,
advertisement or inscription whatever, nor shall any person erect, or cause to
be erected, any sign whatever on any public lands or highways or roads adjacent
to a park unless approved by the City Clerk,
2.21 No person or organization shall use a park or park area for group celebrations,
meetings, entertainment, etc., which are considered "exclusive use" except
through the use of a permit issued by the City Clerk.
SECTION 3.
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If any section, SUbdivision~ clause or
phrase of this ordinance is for any reason
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held to be unconstitutional, such decision shall not affect the validity of the
remaining portions of this ordinance, The Council hereby declares that it would
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have passed this ordinance, any section, subdivision, sentence, clause or phrase
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thereof, irrespective of the fact that any one or more sections, sUbdivisions,
SECTION 4. VIOLATION AND PENALTY.
Any person, firm or corporation violating any of the provisions in this ordinance
shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by
a fine and/or imprisonment as established by law.
This ordinance shall take effect upon adoption and publication as required by law.
Adopted this
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s/Mayor
Attest
s/City Clerk
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