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PARK/RECREATION C~~ISSION 1{EETING - JANUARY 4, 1979
AGENDA
1. Approval of minutes, 10-5-78, 10-21-78, 11-2-78 and 12-7-78
2. N. Birch Creek Estates Pre. Plat
3. Pine Hills Pre. Plat
4. Community School Report
5. Rum River Hockey Assoc. - boards for hockey rink
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PARK/RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
JANUARY 4, 1979
MINUTES
The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Park/Recreation Commission was called to order
by Chairman Mand at 7:45 p.m., January 4, 1979, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown
Blvd. N.W.
Commission Members Present:
Commission Members Absent:
Also Present:
LeFebvre, Nichols & Rogers
Anderson & Meyer
Al K10us & Fran Hagen, North Birch Creek Estates Pre. Plat
Tom O'Malley, Pine Hills Pre. Plat
Nancy Hagman - Community School
MINUTE APPROVAL
MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Rogers, to approve the Minutes of the October 21, 1978,
November 2, 1978 and December 7, 1978 meetings. Motion carried unanimOUSly.
NORTH BIRCH CREEK ESTATES PRELIMINARY PLAT
Fran Hagen, representing Al Klous, presented the Commission with a mounted sketch of
a revised preliminary plat. The ponding areas were changed because the Coon Creek Water-
shed District said there is to be no more run off into the county ditch. All the water
will now be stored on the site creating ponds. According to Mr. Hagen, a lot of mining
will have to be done in order to create buildable lots. The end result will be rolling
hills. Glen Rogers asked if these ponds would be fenced reducing the hazard of small
children drowning. Mr. Hagen said no, the people buying these lots would have to learn
to live with it like those purchasing lake or river properties. The Commission then
looked at an aerial map, most of the area is heavily wooded; the clearest are Lots
1 and 2, Block 2. Chairman Mand expressed concern over the county ditch running through
the middle of this area. If it became park land, whose responsibility is it then to ~
maintain the ditch, Coon Creek Watershed or the City of Andover? No one knew the anser.
The discussion that followed entailed non-park related items such as grade slopes, road
locations, water storage, etc. Mr. Hagen agreed to redraw the preliminary plat showing
Lots 1 and 2, Block 2, as park land. In response to a question, 1~. Hagen stated any fill
generated from street construction would be placed on the residential lots. The Commission
decided to have the park land committee physically look at the proposed park land before
making any recommendation to the Council. This will be continued until the next regularly
scheduled meeting, February 1, 1979.
PINE HILLS PRELIMINARY PLAT
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The park land shown is 1.2 acres short of the required 10%. Mr. O'Malley stated Mr. Knoll
was unwilling to change any lot lines but offered $1100.00 cash in lieu of park land for
the shortage. Chairman'Mand said he looked at the proposed site. There is a low spot
on the southern edge of the park near Tulip St. and another one at the southeast edge of
the park. There is also a nice row of trees on 161st. The eastern edge is suitable for
a ballfield if some grading is done. Mr, O'Malley stated the entire area is composed of
coarse sand with a fast percolation rate. Chairman Mand noted there are quite a few trees
to be removed at the time of road construction, perhaps some of these could be saved by
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/ \ renting a tree spade and replanting them in the park. If l6lst is widened, the existing
~ trees would be lost. Trees saved from the road construction could be placed further
into the park acting as a buffer from the traffic. Some could also be placed on the
east end of the park separating the park from the residential lot. Mr. O'Malley said
a lot of excess fill will be created during street construction. This fill could be
used to level the park which would eliminate the necessity of having to haul fill off
the site. The entire Commission was agreeable to this and the following motion was
made:
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Nichols, to recommend the City Council accept the proposed
park site shown on the Pine Hills Preliminary Plat consisting of 5.2 acres; further the
balance of 1,2 acres be cash in lieu of land in the amount of $1100.00 and that this
money be spent by grading and/or excavating the northeast corner of the park in order to
level it to create a ballfield and that such leveling be inspected by the City Engineer
before final approval is made. Motion carried unanimOUSly.
Discussion: Mr. O'Malley stated he would incorporate some type of grading plan for the
park into the grade plan required by the Engineers. This will be approximately 300 ft.
square with an elevation of approx. 890-892. Also precautions will be taken to save the
existing trees in the northeast area of the park. Glen Rogers suggested the City could
rent the County's tree planter to move the trees from the streets into the park.
COMMUNITY SCHOOL - FALL PROGRM~
Nancy Hagman handed out copies of the Fall attendance and the Winter program ,and gave a
short report on each. The preschool activities were not too successful possibly due to
many working mothers and lack of communication since these children do not attend school.
She also mentioned soccer is becoming increasingly popular.
CITY HALL HOCKEY RINK
The Commission received a quote from Knox Lumber which was within dollars of the one
received from Sylvesters. It was suggested that since it is now too cold to add a row
ot boards to the hockey rink, possibly the wisest thing to do at this time is to ask the
Hockey Association if they would prefer a new higher hockey rink for the taller players
and use the existing rink for the shorter players. Chairman Mand also mentioned the
angle iron edges would have to be beveled since without beveling the edges are very sharp
and players could very easily get cut.
ANOKA COUNTY PARK DEPT.
Anoka County is offering two parcels of' land to the City of Andover, the one landlocked
in Sec. 24 and one Just south of Moores Estates. The park land committee will physically
check these areas and come back with a recommendation.
MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Rogers to adjourn, Meeting adjourned 10:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
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550 Bunker Loke Blvd. - Anoka, Minnesota 55303
Telephone: 612-757-3920
December 14, 1978
Mayor Jerry Windschit1
City of Andover
2312 S. Coon Creek Drive
Anoka, Minnesota 55303
Dear Mayor Windschitl:
Years back the County received property for park purposes located
in your municipality as 10% of a plat. These properties were set
aside with the idea that in the future they could be transferred
to the municipality for park purposes.
At their regular meeting of the County Board on December 12, 1978,
the Board authorized that these parcels be made available to the
City of Andover. Attached are maps showing two areas that could
be transferred to the City of Andover if you wish.
Please review this with your Council and let me know as soon as
possible if they feel these parcels will work into your park system.
Sincerely,
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Director of Parks and Recreation
Anoka County, Minnesota
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M E M 0 RAN 0 U M
TO:
Park/Recreation Commission
COPIES TO:
FROM:
R. Bakke
DATE::
12-22-78
REFERENCE:
Misc.
Enclosed is a copy of the proposed park ordinance. This and 10D cannot be adopted
until the attorney checks them over and a public hearing is held by the Planning &
Zoning Commission. Have since learned that a resolution banning snowmobiles from
parks is unenforceable - there is no penalty clause in resolutions, it has to be
an ordinance.
Pat called the assessor, the estimated market value on Pine Hills is $13,635.00,
or a park dedication of $1,364.00.
You are getting this early because I am going to be on vacation next week.
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M E M 0 RAN DUM
TO:
Mayor, City Council, City Attorney & City Engineer
COPIES TO:
City Clerk
FROM:
Park/Recreation Commission
DA TE::
January 11, 1979
REFERENCE:
Lund's Evergreen Estates Preliminary Plat
The following motion was made at the December 7, 1973 Park/Recreation Commission
meeting and is for your consideration:
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Nichols, to recommend the City Council reject monies
in lieu of parkland and further recommends parkland be dedicated on Lund's Evergreen
Estates plat.
ADDITION TO MOTION....because the Park/Recreation Commission does not feel the
proposed dedication fees on the land were adequate to justify taki~cash in lieu
of parkland. Motion and addition to motion carried unanimously.
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M E M 0 RAN 0 U M
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Park/Recreation Commission
COPIES TO:
FROM:
Rae
DATE::
1-19-79
REFERENCE:
Special Meeting 1-25-79
Lund's Evergreen Estates
See enclosed council minutes for details. This land involves two parcels, 600 & 1200.
Estimated Market Value on 600 is $37,000.00 - non-green acres and $6700.00 green acres.
1200 is $35,000.00 - non-green acres and $7000.00 green acres. Or park dedication
fees of $1370 green acres, $7200 non-green acres. Wes will give more details on what
went on at the council meeting.,..
Also, the council strongly urges all members of planning & zoning and park/recreation
commissions to attend the 1-30-79 meeting with Good Value Homes.
The proposed realignment of Co. 9 would put the new road next to Quickstrom park on the
east side thereby eliminating any future park expansion. A motion is needed to oppose
this realignment, if you do oppose it. I don't think this realignment will go through
since it will cut across the land Good Value has bought for their housing development
and maybe Good Value won't give the County easements but maybe this will be discussed
on the 30th.
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M E M 0 RAN DUM
TO:
Park/Recreation Commission
COPIES TO:
d'Arcy Bosell - Planning & Zoning Commission
FROM:
Rae Bakke
1-26-79
DATE::
REFERENCE:
Misc.
North Birch Creek Pre. Plat - I have located the aerial map of this' area.
Park Ordinance - Trails - It shall be unlawful for any self-propelled vehicle,
including but not limited to motor vehicles as defined in Minnesota Statute,
Chapter 169, other self-propelled vehicles, go-carts, and snowmobiles, to travel
within Andover City Parks, except on established roadways, trails, or other areas
designated for such purpose within said parks. (Copied Anoka County Ordinance)
1979 Grants - have not received any application forms or other information from
State Planning yet.
Park site plans - Suggest a committee be formed to make up overlays on the pictures
Wes took of the park maps.
Co. Rd. 9 realignment - motion is needed to approve or disapprove.
Northwoods Tennis Courts lighting bids - Dave Pillatzke is going to check to see
if they can be completed, the lights at City Hall, by next Thursday, so the Commission
can actually check to see if the system is suitable for Northwoods.
Trail Committee - Need volunteers.
1979 budget discussion - Hopefully copies of the park portion will be ready by 2-1-79.
Pat is still typing it. up.
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P.S. John Davidson is going to give you a rough idea of how much it will cost to remove
stumps from Lots 1 & 2, Bl. 1, Evergreen Estates, and grade Lot 1. It will be
really rough as the cost is based on per stump and no one knows how many there are.
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M E M 0 RAN DUM
TO:
Mayor and City Council
City Clerk, City Engineer, City Attorney
COPIES TO:
FROM:
ParklRecreation Commission
DA TE::
January 30, 1979
REFERENCE:
Pine Hills Preliminary Plat
The following motion was made at the ParklRecreation Commission meeting January 4, 1979
and is for your consideration:
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by NiChols, to recommend the City Council accept the proposed
park site shown on the Pine Hills Preliminary Plat consisting of 5.2 acres; further the
balance of 1.2 acres be cash in lieu of land in the amount of $1100.00 and that this
money be spent by grading and/or excavating the northeast corner of the park in order
to level it to create a ballfield and that such leveling be inspected by the City
Engineer before final approval is made. Motion carried unanimously.
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Park/Recreation Commission
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