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REGULAR PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
JUNE 12, 1979
7:30 P.M.
Call to order
Approval of Minutes
1. Comma #1-79-5
2. Comm. #2-79-1
3. Comma #5-79-2
4. Comma #5-79-6
5. Comm. #5-79-8
6. Comma j}4,-79-5
7. Comma #6-79-2
8. Comma #9-78-1
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Comprehensive Plan Review with Hidwest Planning
Hoodland Terrace Continued Public Hearing
Andrew Knoll Lot Split v/
Stanley Skoog Variance V
Christine Haluptzok Road Location ~
Paul Harystone Lot Split ~
Palmer Levenhagen Variance ........'
Ron Smith/Registered Land Survey/Continued
Public Hearing
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETniG
JUNE 12, 1919
MINIrrES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at
1:31 p.m., by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell on June 12, 1919, at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Byron Copley and George Lobb
Commissioners Absent: Jeannine' Pyron, Ralph Kishel, Richard Okerlund, and Larry
Retzlaff
Also Present:
Mark Schumacher from TImA, Dave Licht,
Andrew Knoll, Stanley Skoog, Christine
Palmer Levenhagen and others
Lawrence Carlson,
Haluptzok, Paul Marystone,
Approval of Minutes
May 22. 1919:
Page four, the spelling of representative should be corrected.
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Page four, bottom of first paragraph, the spelling of dealt should be corrected.
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Page six, where !:6 says, Commissioner Lobb asked if this is where he figures his
preliminary will be, Commissioner Lobb would like to add for clarification, (See
location map from the Strawberry Commons Feasibility Study).
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Page seven, where is talks about the random survey conducted by Delano Skeim,
it should be added for clarification, that the total survey consisted of 61 people.
MOTION by Lobb, Seconded by Bosell, that we accept the Minutes with these corrections.
Motion carried by Bosell and Lobb. (Copley could not vote having not been present
at the last meeting.)
Comprehensive Plan Review with Midwest Planning (Comm. #1-79-5)
Dave questioned the statement about the'~.5 acre maximum or minimum. Chairperson
Bosell stated that she thinks everyone Th pretty comfortable with this for various
reasons. The other comment Dave questioned was pertaining to proposed zoning
districts. d'Arcy stated that the reason for the "blend to present land designation"
comment was because they add so many different districts, suggesting the addition
of so many districts, but the ordinances don't lend to that right now. Dave felt
that he would like to respond in writing and maybe have something to the Commission
by the meeting of the 26th of June. d'Arcy stated that if everything 'Would go
well the Commission would draft an addendum as needed to the draft and send that
on to the City Council, rather than redo the whole thing.
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Commissioner Retzlaff was present at this time.
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Planning and Zoning Collllllission Meeting
Minutes - June 12. 1979
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c=) Woodland Terrace Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #2-79-1l
Chairperson Bosell reopened the public hearing.
Lawrence Carlson, 17750 Aztec, Andover - stated that since the last meeting, the
ponding area has been removed. Mr. Carlson said that he would be willing to go
wi th the suggestion of Mark SchUlllacher of the need for a stub road leading to the
church property. If this is requested by the Collllllission, it would be across from
the stub road at Meadow Creek Estates. Mr. Carlson then remarked on the need for
the service road. He stated that the County did not feel it necessary, nor did
the engineers stress the need for one. Chairperson Bosell read the resolution
on record and understands that to mean that when the need arises that the service
road would be constructed on the church property. It was felt at this time that
TIDA would do a report on the necessity of a service road in Woodland Terrace.
Mr. Carlson showed the Collllllission the letter he received from Paul Ruud. Chairperson
Bosell suggested that the 75 feet be increased to 80 feet. The Cotmnission agreed
that the service road would not be in orderly' planning. Mr. Carlson told the
Commission that there had been a meeting at his office about the drainage problem
with the community represented by nUlllerous people, with the idea to find out if
there could be an overall drainage program. It was understood that TImA would
complete the drainage study on this. Mark Schumacher stated that TKDA is still
putting together their evaluation of the one well system, but advised the Collllllission
that in talking with the health department they do not feel there is any undue
hazard or potential for contamination through such a well. Mark recommended that
if wells are going to be the source of water supply' for the urban area, then this
should be written up in policy, and regulations to do with well construction and
so on should be adopted and brought into code.
Chairperson Bosell suggested that the public hearing be continued for the
preliminary plat and stated that the chair would be open for a motion on the
rezoning.
A recess was taken at 8:50 p.m. and reconvened at 9:05 p.m.
IDTION by Retzlaff, Seconded by Lobb, that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend approval of the rezoning by Lawrence B. Carlson for the
property as described (insert legal description) from an Rl zone to an R4 zone
for the following reasons: 1) That the property has City improvements, City
sanitary sewer available to it and is suited for R4 zoning; and 2) Mr. Carlson's
proposed subdivision would meet the lot size requirement of R4 and would conform
to the surrounding planned use of the land; and 3) That the proposed rezoning
is in conformity with the Comprehensive Plan of the City of Andover. 4) That
a public hearing was held and no strong opposition of the rezoning was presented.
Discussion: Chairperson Bosell questioned that the property has City sanitary
sewer available and stated that it does not at the present time, it needs to
be extended. Cotmnissioner Retzlaff said that reason No. 1 should be restated
to say, Rezoning would be contingent on the availability of City sanitary sewer
to this property. Second still stands with this change.
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Motion carried unanimously'. This will go to the City Council on July' 11th.
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MOTION by Copley, Seconded by Retzlaff, that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend approval of the Special Use Permit for the Woodland Terrace
Preliminary Plat relating to the fOllowing described premises (insert legal
description) for the following reasons: 1) The Special Use Permit is being
requested for the purpose of receiving approval for a planned unit development
and including variances from the provisions of the Zoning Ordinances including
uses, setbacks, heights and similar regulations (reference sketches proposed
for quads & twin homes). 2) That the proposed variance would be in conformity
with the plan of the preliminary plat. 3) That a public hearing was held and
that there was no opposition to the Special Use Permit. 4) That the proposed
use is not detrimental to the health, safety and welfare of the public. 5) It
is not incompatible with the Comprehensive Plan.
Discussion: Chairperson Bosell questioned reason No.2. Commissioner Retzlaff
suggested that reason No.2 state: A complete detailed plan has been submitted
as to lot layout and that a PUD of this configuration is consistent with that
site plan. Commissioner Copley agreed that this language should be used in
reason No.2. Reason No.4 should have added to it: This would not be detri-
mental to the adjacent property values.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on July 11th.
Mr. Carlson stated at this time that he would like some type of disposition on
the preliminary plat so that this too can go before the City Council. The Commission
felt that there were too many engineering matters to be resolved. before it lIould
be sent on to City Council. Mr. Carlson stated that he is looking for an approval
of the plat with the condition that it is subject to drainage that meets the stan-
dards set forth by the city engineer, just an okay of it. The Commission still
felt strongly that there were too many contingencies to deal with.
MarION by Retzlaff, Seconded by Lobb, that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recommend to the City Council conceptual approval of concept design
for Woodland Terrace as described in the preliminary plat for the follOWing
reasons: 1) The concept of this plat is in conformity with the Comprehensive
Development Plan of the City of Andover; 2) That if the City Council is in
agreement with this, they can forward it back to the Planning and Zoning Commission
with the recommendation to continue in the preliminary plat sequence.
Motion carried l1n~nimously. This will go to the City Council on July 11th.
Chairperson Bosell continued the public hearing of Woodland Terrace to the next
meeting.
Andrew Knoll Lot Split (Comm. #5-79-2)
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ChairpersonAasked Mr. Knoll if he had the dimensions of the new lot. Mr. Knoll
stated that road frontage on Round Lake Boulevard for the new lot is 290 feet,
the depth 510 feet along the north lot line and the other dimensions would be
.the boundaries of the ditch. Chairperson Bosell noted that the lot split lIould
need a variance because of the dimension of the rezoned lot would be less than
300 feet. Mr. Knoll was informed by the Commission that the lot split lIould
make the one lot subject to the $100 park fee because it is less than five acres.
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MOTION by Lobb, Seconded by Copley, that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the Andover City Council approval of the lot split for Andrew Knoll
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o Andrew Knoll Lot Split cont'd.
described as follows: Description of Andrew J. Knoll Homestead (2.5+ acres on
County State Aid Highway No.9): That part of the North Hall of the Southwest
Quarter of the Southwest Quarter of Section 16, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka
County, Minnesota, described as follows: Commencing at the southwest corner
of said ~ of ~ of ~; thence NortherJy along the West line thereof for a
distance of 370 feet to the point of beginning of the tract herein described;
thence EasterJy at right angles for a distance of 275 feet; thence NortheasterJy
to a point on the North line of said N ~ of SW ~ of SW ~ distant 510 feet
EasterJy of the Northwest corner thereof; thence WesterJy along said North
line to the Northwest corner of said N ~ of SW ~ of SW~; thence SoutherJy along
the West line of said N ~ of SW ~ of SW ~ to the point of beginning and there
terminating.
Legal description of part to the east to be split from homestead: North Hall of
the Southwest Quarter of the Southwest Quarter of Section 16, Township 32, Range
24, Anoka County, Minnesota, except the following described land: Beginning at
the Southwest corner thereof; thence NortherJy along the West line for a distance
of 275 feet, more or less, to a point distant 2 feet West of the West bank of a
drainage ditch as now laid out and established; thence in a SouthwesterJy direction
parallel with and distant 2 feet WesterJy of the WesterJy bank of said ditch to
the point of intersection with the South line of said N ~ of the SW ~ of the SW~;
thence WesterJy along the said South line for a distance of 60 feet, more or less,
to the point of beginning; And except the following described land: Commencing
at the Southwest corner of said N ~ of SW ~ of SW~; thence NortherJy along the
\-lest line thereof for a distance of 370 feet to the point of beginning of the
tract herein described; thence EasterJy at right angles for a distance of 275
feet; thence NortheasterJy to a point on the North line of said N ~ of SW ~ of SW ~
distant 510 feet Easterly of the Northwest corner thereof; thence Westerly along
said North line to the Northwest corner of said N ~ of SW ~ of SW~; thence
SoutherJy along the West line of said N ~ of SW ~ of SW ~ to the point of beginning
and there terminating.
for the following reasons: 1) All the necessary provisions of the lot split
ordinance have been complied with; 2) The Commission finds that the lot split
is in conformance with the City's Comprehensive Development Plan; 3) The Commission
finds that it does not interfere with orderly planning and is not contrary to
public interest; 4) Such lot split does not nulify the intent of the ordinances
of the City of Andover; 5) The Commission recoMlllends the imposition of the $100
park fee for the lot split; 6) A variance on the frontage because it does not
meet the )00 foot frontage requirement; 7) The applicant does not own the adjoining
property to allow him to increase that frontage to meet the ordinances.
Discussion: It was advised by Chairperson BoseIl that there should be something
saying that the lot split would be contingent upon approval frem the County engineer.
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Commissioner^requested that it should be added: This lot split be contingent upon
the approval of Anoka County being that it is on County Road 9.
Second still stands. Motion carried unanimousJy. This will go to the City Council
on JuJy 11th.
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Chairperson recommended to Mr. Knoll that he take the drawing and legal to the County
Engineer's Office and ask for a written response to be sent directly to City Hall.
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o Stanley Skoog Variance (COIlllll. #5-79-6)
Stanley Skoog, 158th Avenue N.W. - stated that he recently had a home built and
the garage is over a thousand square feet and said that Dave told him that he
would have to have a variance on it. The dimensions of the garage are 301 by 401.
Mr. Skoog stated that the garage is already built, but if he had the variance,
he llou1d not have to put in an additional fire wall. The Commission inquired of
Mr. Skoog if he would be doing any heavy maintenance in the garage and Mr. Skoog ^ -I- #
replied that he would not, maybe some day would be constructing an airplane. ~
The Commission came to the conclusion that this should be looked at the the City {, .;,} (, . 7f
Building ~r who enforces the Uniform Building Code. b'f
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!-IOTION by Retzlaff, Seconded by Lobb, that the Planning and Zoning Commission
of Andover recollllllend to the City Council that the Stanley Skoog Variance is
not detrimental to the health, safety and welfare of the City of Andover. But
that the Planning and Zoning Commission recollllllend that the City Council seek
the advice of the City Building Inspector who is charged with the enforcement
of the Uniform Building Code rather than the Planning Commission enforcing the
Uniform Building Code. Commissioner Retzlaff llou1d like to have added to the
first reason; ...not detrimental to the healthj safety and welfare of the City
of Andover or the existing use of the Rl zone.
Discussion: Commissioner Retzlaff believes that this is a matter for the City's
Building Inspector, not the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Hotion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on July 11th.
Chairperson Bosell recOlmlended to Mr. Skoog that he bring along the house plan
to the City Council meeting and the pictures.
Christine Haluptzok Road Location (Comm. #5-79-8)
The Commission felt that the cul-de-sac length was too long. The minimum is 500
feet. Chairperson Bosell stated that in talking with the City attorney, he said
that this would be a metes and bounds subdivision with a road easement, and the
road is included. The Commission suggested that the road be changed from 60 feet
to 66 feet in width. It was suggested to the Christine Ha1uptzok that she discuss
with the neighboring landowner the pOSSibility of sharing the costs of the road.
The Commission also suggested that MS. Haluptzok make the property subject to the
the easement that would go to the south so that in the future, if this road were
extended, that it could go through.
The applicant is going to pursue some different alternatives in this matter and
would like to come back before the Commission in two weeks.
Paul Marystone Lot Split (COIlllll. #4-79-5)
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Chairperson Bosell stated that Mr. Mary-stone was before the COIllIIIission in May to
kind of talk about his situation and what he wanted to do and has since made
application for a lot split, wrote a letter explaining the reasons for the lot
split and made up a drawing of it. He would like the Commission's reconunendation
on the lot split at this time. The Commission advised Mr. Marystone that they
would not recOlmlend approval for the idea of extending the unimproved roadway
there. Mr. Karystone asked if they would recollllllend approval for a cul-de-sac.
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The Collllllission was not totally favorable to either proposal of Mr. Marystone1 s.
Cormnissioner Copley said that he would like to see a cul-de-sac at the end of
Marystone !ane and stated that it would give Mr. Marystone more value of the
land and also gives more land available to another property owner. The Collllllission
recommended to Mr. }oI'.arystone that he redraw his proposal and fool around with
different alternatives and come back before the Connnission in two weeks.
Hr. Marystone agreed and will see the Connnission in two weeks.
Palmer Levenhagen Variance (Comm. #6-79-2)
Mr. Levenhagen stated because of an error on the part of the surveyors, the
property on which he intended to put a garage would put the garage within two
feet of the lot line. He stated that he could not put the garage behind the
house because the land slopes rapidly to the east. The garage would be 22 by
26 feet.
MOTION by Copley, Seconded by Lobb, that the Planning and Zoning Commission of
Andover recommend to the City Council~Ogrant Palmer Levenhagen a variance on the
construction of a garage to be placed two feet from the lot line for the following
reasons: 1) As a result of a survey that was in error and now has been corrected,
initial plans for the construction of the grounds would have placed it within the
normal setback but due to the correction in the survey, he now cannot go through
wi th that unless he is granted this variance and creates a hardship on him financially}
2) It does not appear to have adverse affect on the property to the south, to
the value, safety, welfare of that property owner; 3) Nobody is here contesting;
4) The topography of the land is such that to place the garage behind the house
and to the east, would create an undue hardship on Mr. Levenhagen so that the
~nly place feasible :for him to construct a garage is next to the house.
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MarION by Copley, Seconded by Lobb, to adjourn this meeting.
Meeting adjourned at 12:05 a.m.
Mary H. !riley
Recording Clerk
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