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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
MAY 22, 1979
AGENDA
Call to order 7:30 P.M.
Approval of Minutes
I. Comm. 114-79-2 Klatke Lot Split
2. Comm. 112-79-1 Woodland Terrace Public Hearing/Preliminary Plat
3. Comm. ff2-79-l Woodland Terrace Public Hearing/Rezoning
4. Comm. ff2-79-l Woodland Terrace Public Hearing/Special Use Pennit
5. Comm. 114-79-4 North Central Public Service Public Hearing/
Special Use Pennit
6. Comm. #5-79-1 Strawberry Commons Public Hearing/Rezoning
7. Comm. 119-78-1 Ron Smith/Registered Land Survey/Continued
Public Hearing
8. Comm. 115-79-2 Andrew Knoll Lot Split
9. Comm. 115-79-3 Lake Ridge Sketch Plan
10. Comm. 115-79-4 Robert Gilson Variance
II. Comm. if5-79-5 Dan Christensen Sketch Plan
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEEl'ING
MAY 22, 1979
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning COIlIIIIission was called to order at
7:37 p.m., by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell on I-ray 22, 1979, at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Ralph Kishel, George Lobb, Richard Okerlund.
Commissioners Absent: Jeannine Pyron, Byron Copley, Larry Retzlaff.
Also Present: John Davidson and Mark SChumaCher, Engineers from TImA,
Ward Foss, Andrew Knoll, Robert Gilson, Dan Christensen,
Larry Carlson, Sylvia Bri.1ton, Delano Skeim and others.
Approval of Minutes
May 8, 1979:
Last Page, second paragraph of tIe Swimming Pool Ordinance, instead of
3 A and B it should read, "All outdoor spas shall have either a fence as
described in Section 3 A ~ B or a latchab1e cover.
First Page, Commissioners Present, Ralph Kishel's name appears twice.
Delete one of them.
Page 4, bottom of tIE page, the word to should be added so that the
sentence will read, Mr. Fadd1er would also have to extend...
The Motion ad the Faddler Lot Split, Reason 2, The land does have a
hardship in that it does not have... Strike a and put have )00 feet running
on Tu~ip Street. -
Same Motion, Reason No.5, "The owner is also willing to grand..., the
word' should be grant instead of grand. Going on, !!... grant for an additional
17 feet conform with the p10t.1ine." '!n8llead of" plot line it should read
lot line.
Reason No.7, the language should be changed from, The lot split does
not impair the neighboring residents, to, The lot split does not impair the
neighborhood characteristics.
Motion by Lobb, Seconded by Okerlund, that we accept the Minutes with the
corrections. Motion carried unanimously.
North Central Public Service Public Hearing/Special Use Permit (Comm. #4-79-4)
Chairperson Bosell opened the public Hearing.
Ward Foss, North Central Public Service - Mr. FOBS stated that they would like
to get a Special Use Permit to install a metal building at their propane-air
plant located on North 7. The building will be approximately .36 feet by 60
feet. It will be within the fenced area that is back about 800 feet from 7th
Avenue. The building would be used for storage of warm equipment so that it
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will start in the winter time, and also be used for some light repairing. He would
like to have the building constructed this year, ready ~or use by fall.
There were no questions or cornments by the commission. No questions or cOlllll1ents
by anyone in the audience.
Motion by Kishel, Seconded by Lobb for the Public Hearing on the Special Use Permit
for North Central Public Service to be closed. Motion carried unanimously.
There were no other cOlllll1ents on the part of the Commissionsrs or questions and the
chair was open; for a motion to disposition the request of North Central Public Service.
Motion by Kishel that the Andover Planning and Zoning COIIIIlIission recollllllend approval
of the Special Use Permit for North Oentral Public Service Company to construct
a J6 foot by 60 foot metal pole building on their property located at approximately
60 feet back frOlll future 143rd lane for the follOWing reasons: 1) The
property currently' has existing storage tanks and a small metal building already
on the property and the new building is over 800 feet frOlll the centerline of 7th
Avenue, which is almost out of sight from 7th Avenue due to terrain. 2) The
proposed building would not be visually offensive to the neighborhood. 3) A
public hearing was held and no opposition was voiced. 4) The pr~osed use is
not detrimental to the health, safety or welfare of the public. 5) It's not
inCOMPatible to the comprehensive plan.
Motion seconded by Lobb. Motion carried unanimously. This lIill go to the City
Council at the June 19th meeting.
Andrew Knoll Lot Split (Cemm. #5-79-2)
Andrew Knoll, 15851 Round Lake Boulevard - Ml-. Knoll would like to sell part of
his property to his brother, but keep his house and sor.!.e acreagl!_
The Commission advised Ml-. Knoll that one thil1i he will have to have done before
this would go before the City Council, is to have a legal description of each
piece of property. The Commission thought that the smaller piece of property
would meet the two and a half acre requirement, but that the frontage would be
297 feet. The Commission also advised Mr. Knoll to have the sketch and the
legal descriptions before the City Council would review it. Ml-. Inoll was
also advised that there would be a $100 park fee assessed to the piece of
property that would be less than five acres.
Chairperson Bosell stated that it Ml-. Knoll gets this done right away, the
Commission will review it once again and then it will go before the City Council
prObably the first week in July. The Commission will see Mr. Knoll again
in two weeks.
No one was in the audience at this time representing the lQ.atke matter or the
Ron Smith matter.
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Robert Gilson Vai'iance - (Cemm. #5-79-4)
Robert Gilson, 1.l417 Utah Avenue, Champlin, Minnesota - Ml-. Gilson owns a lot in
Woodridge Acres which he has sold tObuild a new house on if he can extend the
street to make a driveway. The street lias never completed in front of his property.
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Commissioner Lobb stated that he lives four houses from the lot which Mr. Gilson
owns, and after talk:i.ng with the neighbors there, Lobb says that they would not
like to see the street extended. The neighbors like the way they are isolated now.
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Mark SChumacher, TImA - stated that apparently these streets were never accepted
by the City of Andover. Mark's suggestion was to come out of the lot or driveway,
similar to Mr. Gilson'S sketch, and then have the driveway turn and come into the
existing Quinn Drive, a minimum of 25 feet from the other driveway.
Motion by Okerlund, Seconded by Kishel, that the Andover Planning and Zoning
Commission recoll1lllend to the City Comci1 that they grant the variance to Robert
Gilson for allowing a driveway from Lot 1, Block 2 of Woodridge Acres. The
reason for the variance is a hardship due to the fact that Quinn Dri va was never
constructed as indicated on the map. The driveway would have to be built to
City standards, i. e. organic mataoia1 removed, sui table fill. The driveway
abutting with Quinn Drive on the turn, minimum of 25 feet from the driveway
on Lot 2, Block 2. This driveway would be temporary until such a time that
Quinn Drive is extended as indicated on the map. This variance would not be
detrimental to the health, safety or welfare for the people of the City of
Andover. 11; is in compliance wi th the Comprehensive Plan.
Discussion: Commissioner Kishe1 stated that we are varying from the street stan-
dards (Ordinance 8, Section 3.02 and Ordinance 8, Section &.04). Commissioner Okerlund
felt that it should be mentioned that the purpose of the variance is to build a
driveway on a dedicated street that was not accepted by the City at the time of
the plat, which was 1966. Also, the proposal has been reviewed by TICDA and they
approve of the basic concept due to the circumstances. Mark Schumacher asked
that Mr. Gilson revise his drawing to show exactly what we want to come in there.
Motion carried unanimOUSly. This will go to the City Council on June 19th.
Recess at 8:45 p.m., reconvened at 8:55 p.m. Commissioner Retzlaff was present
at this time.
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Chairperson Bosell opened the public hearing.
Lawrence B. Carlson, 17750 Aztec St. N.W., Anoka - informed everyone that he has
been here two or three times before, and he has met with the Park Commission two
times and has also had the City engineers look over the plans and llI9t with the
attorneys of the City. He advised that the reason for the rezoning and the
special use permit is that the legal counsel for the City recommended that this
would be the best way to handle what he is requesting. Mr. Carlson pointed out
that there would be an area he would be calling twin homes, and noted that the
reason for part of the variance is that the City does not have any criteria in
its zoning and planning that covers any type of development of this nature.
Mr. Carlson stated that the land area for each dwelling, the park, and every-
thing is done in accordance with the standards set forth under the plan unit
development of M;"l or M-2 zoning. He also noted that this will protect the
value of the surrounding homes. There lIould be a little league softball diamond
put in which coo1d also be a mini football field. There would be a holding pond
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which the Park Commission has not seen, although Mr. Carlson has talked with
the engineer and he did suggest that this be proposed. There lIould be a picnic
area, with some off street parldng. Some of this would be done by the City and
some by Mr. Carlson. One of the variances would be 13Jrd Lane N.W. that extends
more than 500 feet. Chairperson Bosell brought up the issue at this time that
people that are presently living on Lilly Street do not have any mail service
and that perhaps 133rd could extend to tie into Lilly Street. Mr. Carlson stated
that this is not in agreement with the legal counsel. From Mr. Carlson's stand-
point he would lose a very valuable lot, but it was sUl;gested that the City shmld
construct that street. The second variance, the block length of Narcissus exceeds
1320 feet. Mr. Carlson stated that they asked a representd.tive of the church, ~
and the church representitive said that they have no intention of subdividing
their property. Chairperson Bosell asked if the engineers were aware of the .1' 17
neighbors viewpoint when the church property was dealt. with, that they did not t.j
want that street extended. Engineer Davidson stated that they were aware of
the problem, however, the continUity of the street system in the area there is
a very serious laek of access to the estates area generally. There could be
some possibilities with the plat which would preserve the idea of access without
making it concrete. This would be something to consider as a part of the plat.
The next variance Mr. Carlson dealt with was the fact that the park dedication
is less than 10 percent. It is more in the area of 8 or 8 and a half percent.
Commi.ssioner Okerlund asked Mr. Carlson if he intends to put up fences along
the walkway to keep people off of the lots. Mr. Carlson stated that this would
be up to the Park Committee, but definitely to have a clear line so that you
could distinguish the walkway from the lots. Mr. Carlson went on to say that
the reason for the variance request under the special use permit relates to
putting the houses together, side by side, so that you have a common wall.
The minute you do this, it exists on a lot line so we have to then request
a variance from the side yard set backs and the rear yard set backs. The
quad home designed building is 28 by 44 for 1,056 square feet per floor.
They will have tuck under garages, but the finished area would be 1450, 1500
square feet per home. &st' likely they probably will go bigger than this.
The proposed twin home is really not much different than the quad home.
The next thing noted lias that Lot 64 is larger than the others.
Chairperson Bosell asked that the engineers review their letter to Mr. Carlson.
Mark Schumacher, TImA - First, Poppy and Narcissus streets do not have ten;>orary
cul-de-sacs on the south bmndry of the property as required. Mr. Carlson stated
that this is intended. Mark went on to say that the recommendation of l35th
Avenue N.W., it depends on your configuration of the street. You will either
restrict traffic or you will have a lot of traffic into there. Item C, there
appears that there will be no problem with the street curve data although
the engineers do like to see them t9. make sure that they conform to their
requirements. Item D, the develope'l$hould submit the total street acreage
for the purpose of calculating the total number of allowable lots under
Section 905 of Ordinance 10 which is for sewer and watered areaa. There is
!~) some trouble here with quad and multiple dwelling lots. You may end up with
\....- more lots and there may need to be a variance. The cul-de-sac at Marigold
and IJ4th Lane and Avenues are shown as 50 foot radius to the property line
rather than the 60 foot radius as called for in the ordinance. The developer
should provide a letter from the county engineer with his comments on the true
proposed accesses on County Road 16. The City would like to monitor the total
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mileage and lengths of new streets periOdically. So the developer should provide
the total length of streets in the preliminary plat. Mark also stated that he
did not lmow who recommended a pond on park property. Maybe this would be a
holding pond he thought. Mr. Davidson added that Anoka is in the process of
constructing an outlet storm sewer which at this point would be undersized
for this area. Mark went on reviewing the letter, the next item was on the
drainage. The north would probably have to drain to the north and the south
would probab]y have to drain to the southwest. Mark noted that there is no
current water supply in the area. There has been some discussion on private
systems for the residents of this plat or connecting to a syr>>tem ot Good Value
Homes pr~aec:t. As far as sanitary sewer, trunk sanitary is available.
Chairperson Bosell asked Mr. Carlson in reference to Item Bo. 4 ot the letter
on page 2 which refers to water supply, the City ordinances require that multiple
dwellint;s have city water, private water. There has been no proposal for this.
Mr. Carlson stated that the cost for a water system to serve the area is totally
prohibitive. Right now he is looking at private wells throughout the area which
would also be a request for a variance. Mr. Carlson questioned the item in the
letter referring to a road through the Assembly of God Church property. It was
suggested that possibly extend Maril!:old up to the north of the property line
between lots 39 and 40, so that the potential for 135th to come through and line
up with Marigold so you would allow for a future connection. Mr. Carlson
felt that lD was eliminated under Ordinance laC. The Commissioners did agree
that the 13,000, 15,000 average has been deleted. Mark agreed that this was an
error on his part.
Commissioner Retzlaff called on the rest of the Commission to refer to Ordinance
8, Page 10, Subparagraph 7.01. Larry Retzlaff was looking for a amendment under
R4, single tamily urban district. Commissioner Retzlaff read from. the Ordinance,
Section 7, Permitted Uses, subsection R4 single family urban district, "Private
sewer and water systems shall only be permitted on nery third lot or no more
frequent]y than one system for each 39,000 square feet where large lots are
established. This shall not apply to lots of record at the time this ordinance
is adopted. On each new plot the lots to be developed in accordance with this
section shall be so designated. n Retzlaff asked if this plot is talking about
private water, are we ta.l1d.ng about the designation of every third lot?
Chairperson Basell noted that under multiple dwellings, each unit needs to have
its own samtary water and sewer. There are two basic problems, first, if you
go R4 ZOning without water, you are going to every third lot buildable and if
you are looking at multiple dwellings they are not permitted without water.
There was much discussion among the Commission and the engineers of the proposed
wells that Mr. Carlson would be putting in. Cost, depth, health and safety
were all considered. Commissioner Retzlaff suggested three options that he
sould see: 1) They could put in the wells and just meet the ordinances as
stated; 2) Require a deeper well into the Jordan (an aqua for a water bearing
strata of rock); 3) It is not practical to put that many well systems in this
area and that a public water system wwld be required. Chairperson Boseil noted
Item 5A in the letter, Mr. Carlson should understand that the sanitary sewer
needs to be extended to the property line. At this time the microphone was
open to the audience.
Marey Peltzer, representing the Assembly of God Church - asked if the council
would require that the service road in Meadow Creek be extended. Mark Schumacher
responded by saying that at this time they weren't looking at extending the road.
John Davidson commented that Assembly of God had a petition in their official
plan that this be extended.
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Mr. Peltzer also inquired about if the church will have to screen any area.
Mr. Carlson replied by saying that they will not since this area will have
trees and schrubs. Mr. Carlson also noted that the area will be maintained
much better than the normal neighborhood.
Chairperson Bosell asked Mr. Peltzer what the feeling of the church is about
the possible l35th going through the church's property. Mr. Peltzer replied
by saying that right now their feeling is not to have l35th go through the
property but that they were looking at some alternatives.
Linda Roberts ha 135'th Avenue - stated that she is not really against Woodland
Terrace but t t she feels there is not adequate parking and that the only
access on 135'th would give a lot of traffic. She is concerned about her four
children and feels that there should be additional parking nearer the proposed
ball diamonds. She is against the pond because she feels that this would be
a hazard to the children.
Gerald Girard, 3442 - 13Mh Lane, Cha~' s Addition - Mr. Girard feels that
the way the park is proposed at this t me is going to bring all vehicle traffic
through Chapman'S Addition. He doesn't feel that the parking is adequate at all.
All traffic that this park will generate will be coming in on 135'th Avenue and
Iane. Mr. Girard states that these are quiet, residential, sand streets with
lots and lots of children. He feels that this will be a serious safety problem
with all the children. It would kick up much more dust than they already' have.
He likes the idea of a park and feels it will be an asset to the neighborhood,
however, the people of Chapman's Addition will have to bear the complete brunt
of all vehicle traffic. As far as the pond is concerned, Mr. Girard feels that
he should have some assurance that this pond will not be a safety hazard to the
small children. If it would be a safety hazard, he would ask that a fence be
erected around it.
Chairperson Bosell asked the Commission if they could give the developer some
direction at this time. She stated that the water has been covered, and would
like to have Mr. Carlson pursue the access out of Meadow Creek Estates. She
suggested that maybe Mr. Carlson could get together with the Assembly of God
Church people and maybe make a joint effort on an additional access out of the
back of that property.
Marnelle Wilber, 35'10 - 136th Lane N.W. - was concerned that the baseball diamond
will draw much more traffic than thought. She is concerned about other teams
using this area, as well as families and friends. There just isn't enough
parking she feels. Mr. Carlson stated that this will not draw any other teams
since the diamond will be used for little league. As far as other people using
the park, that is the purpose of it.
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Mayor Windschitl, 2312 Coon Creek Drive - questioned how this plan. has gotten
this far without the service road. He stated that there was a special use
permit that the service road would be built since the property next to it is
commercial area. The Mayor stated that this is something that should be either
agreed or disagreed with before Mr. Carlson spends more money and time on this.
The Commission was aware of this but hasn't gotten to the Collll1lission's questions.
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Russ Sabinsky, Chapman's Fifth Addition - feels that with the gas Shortage that
families are going to be closer than before and that this park is going to be
used greatly by all surrounding neighbors as well as Woodland Terrace residents.
He likes the idea of the park but feels that the parking facilities as proposed
are illogical. He feels that there should either be two parking lots IIBde or
make the one proposed much larger. He would like to recommend that if this park
comes into being where proposed, that signs be put up as to whether they can
park on the street or not. Mr. Sabinsky inquired as to when they propose a park,
do they have a per capita amount of people that would be the maximum useage for
the park. Mr. Carlson stated that Woodland Terrace reSidents, Chapman's Addition
and also Meadow Creek Estates were included as being potential users.
Chairperson Bosell asked for any COIll!llEllts or questions on the part of the
Commission. Commissioner nshel questioned the corner lots not having a radius
of 20 feet. Chairperson Bosell stated that this would be completed in the
final drawing. Commissioner Lobb said that he feels there should be additional
parking on the other side. He also thinks that the pond is a bad idea with tots
and Idds around. He feels that Mr. Carlson should look into the idea of the
access to the Meadow Creek Estates, and also consider the over 500 foot cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Retzlaff brought up the service road along Bunker Lake Boulevard
and the extension of that in front of the Assembly of God Church and in front
of this plat as a continuation from Meadow Creek Estates should be done at this
time. Retzlaff also questioned the outlot in the lower left-hand corner of the
plat. John Davidson advised the Commission the area would be designated perhaps
as a drainage easement, but it is intended to be used as a constructed holding
pond. Chairperson Bosell advised Mr. Carlson that he incorporate the service
rOad into the plat. It was agreed that the 15 feet that Mr. Carlson has is not
consistent with what is to the east of it .for the service road.
Chairperson Bosell dealt with some specifics to give Mr. Carlson an idea in
which direction he will have to go. The wnter issue needs to be addressed and
the Commission has requested that. The City attorney must deal with the fact
of lOC, does that repeal the provisions of Ordinance 8, Section 101 as it talks
about water on every third lot. Incorporate a service road into the plat.
As far as the park, pond and that parking, this should be dealt with by the
Park Commission and then referred back to the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Also the possibility or a walkliay somewhere off of 135th Lane N.W.
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Chairperson Basell stated that the public hearing on this issue will be
continued to June 12th so that Mr. Carlson can get the proper documentaticn
together and finalize the plans.
Recess at ll:52 p.m., reconvened at 12:05 p.m.
Strawberry Commons Public Hearing!Rezoning (Comm. #5-19-1)
Chairperson Bosell opened the public hearing.
Delano Skeim opened by asking the Commission if there are;:ne:ious objections
to the consept. Commissioner Lobb asked if this is where he figures his trade
area will be. Skeim answered by saying yes, approximately three and a half to
four miles. Lobb also asked if Mr. Skeim realizes that there are approximately
eight other stores located in this area. Mr. Skeim stated that these are baSically
convenience stores, and that his store will be a full-service grocery along with
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Mr. Skeim says that land has been donated and that there will be a median,
with left turn lanes to service the industrial park and subsequently will
service the commercial area. He also feels that as the area develops that
there will be ei ther a stop sign or traffic rendering device at County Roads
9 and 20, which will slow the traffic dOlilIl.
The grocery store proposed will have 15,000 square feet. Mr. Skeim says that
Super Valu is presently looking at the property.
Commissioner Okerlund had some concern about .,the traffic. He states that the
162nd Lane is coming out and then there is an access to the center about 400
feet down the road, and inquired if Mr. Skeim thinks this will be a problem.
Skeim replied by saying that it is logical because it is directly opposite
to the entrance into the industrial park. The road coming out into the
residential area is a true alignment to the proposed development. Onee a
median is placed there, it will be a right in, right out turn as has been
noted in the report.
In a random survey conducted, 82 percent favored the location, 6 percent
said no and 12 percent that were undecided. Eighty-four percent felt a need
for a full service grocery store, 12 percent said no and 4 percent were undecided.
In asking the uses, other than a grocery store, they were: hardware, restaurant,
gas station, drug store, post office, branch library and a clothing store.
In the support question for Strawberry Commons, 82 percent supported the concept,
6 percent said no and 12 percent were undecided. This was taken not only ,ot: I
residents, but also people that were employed andJPeople in transit.~ ~
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Mr. Skeim stattfd that there is a 26 foot difference between the high spot and
the low spot and that the drainage calculations on the back half of lot 4,
block 2 and in lot 4 in the cOllDllerical HE zoned area of block 4 will have a
ponding area. Almost one hundred percent of the drainage on the entire 40
acres will be directe through ditches and swales. There is enough capacity
for as many acres of ponding as he will ever want. Drainage will be both in
the front and the back.
It was asked of Mr. Skeim if he has another development of this type that the
COIlIIlIission could look at. Mr. Skeim stated that this is his first venture into
cOllDllercial, but he is finishing a development in the City of Ramsey, which is
called Traprock Commons and he welcomed the City Council as well as the Planning
and Zoning Commission to contact the City of Ramsey to determine his standing
with the City relative to this piece of property.
Chairperson Bosell asked if there were any questions or cOllDllents on the part of
the audience.
Mr. Reynolds, 15951 Tulip Street - Mt'. Reynolds stated that the only objection
he would have would be to a liquor store or a beer parlor on that corner.
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The COIlIIlIission replied bY stating that there is no way an on or off sale liquor
establishment could open here since they are on1y' allowed in shopping centers
or industrial districts.
Royce Bennet~ 16127 Tulip Street - inquired about the accidents mentioned in
this area an wondered how many of them involved liquor.
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The Commission anSllered Mr. Bennet by advising him that they do not have this
information. Mr. Bennet could maybe obtain this information from the Anoka
County Sheriff's Office.
Commissioner Lobb questioned Mr. Skeim on what type of a restaurant he would
be putting in. Hr. Slceim stated that 60 percent of the people said that they
wanted a full menu rather than fast food.
Mr. Skeim pointed out that the Andover residents are going to be spending
10.3 million dollars on grocery items in 1980. Unless there is a full service
grocery store in this area, all this money will go to Coon Rapids, Anoka,
Northtown, etc.
Motion by Retzlaff, Seconded by Lobb to close the public hearing on strawberry
Cammons Rezoning.
There was no further discussion at this time. Mltion was carried unanimously.
&rk Schwnacher. TKDA - The street circulation of l62nd Lane N.W. should be
extended to the west property line and terminate at Orchid street. Secondly,
the street that is named Narcissus should be renamed, otherwise since Narcissus
has already been approved in Pine Hills Addition that it continue on and change
Orchid to Narcissus. The cul-de-sac radius would need to be Changed to regulation.
Also, it wOIlld be better to have a service drive than just one point of entry
at l62nd, and l6lst.
Motion by Retzlaff, Seconded by Kishel, that the Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval for the request for rezonEg by Scandinavian
Construction and Delano Skeim on property described as the east 484 feet of the
southeast one quarter of the northeast one quarter of Section 17, Township 32,
Range 24 in AnoIm County, Minnesota be approved by the City Council for the
follOWing reasons: 1) A public hearing was held and no opposition was posed
to the rezoningJ 2) That the developer has provided a feasibility study, which
study was acceptable; 3) That the rezoning of this property to neighborhood
business is compatible with the community development plan in that it is on
one of the major intersections in the City and would provide services to the
residents of the City of Andover; 4) It is not detrimental to the health safety
or welfare to the citizens of Andover.
Commissioner Retzlaff proposed an amendment to the motion: That the restraint
that access from the NB be restricted to l62nd Lane N.W. and l61st Avenue N.W.
and not be another access on to County Road #9 until such time. as center median
and turn lanes have been constructed on County Road #9.
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Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on the 19th of June.
Dan Christensen Sketch Plan (Comm. #5-79-5)
Chairperson Bosell stated that the Commission did look at a sketch plan of Dan's
back in September of 178. She did talk: with Dan about the easement of University
extension which she believeS is So feet. Commissioner Kishel advised Dan that
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the lot frontage has been changed to 300 feet instead of 350 feet.
The collllllission recommended that Dan increase the lot frontage as 11IUch as
possible. He should go with the sketch plan and update it with those changes,
then take it to the Park Commission and get their basic feeling on it. He
could make the Park Commission's next meeting and then come back to the
Planning and Zoning Collllllission on the 12th of June with another sketch plan
or a preliminary.
Lake Rid~e Sketch Plan (Comm. #5-79-3)
Lawrence B. Carlson, 17750 Aztec St. N.W., Anoka - stated that the reason for the
extension of the cul-de-sac was to get another entry to the park. He also stated
that the area is beautiful for ball fields, but it is not buildable. The Commission
advised that Mr. Carlson have the Park Commission review this on the 7th of June,
since they only meet once a month. It was noted that some of the block ,lengths
were too long. Larry Carlson stated that Lot 13 of Block 4 is an oversized lot.
Commissioner Retzlaff noted a number of lots that do not meet the frontage require-
ment. They are: Lot 5 of Block 1, Lot 4 of Block 7, Lot 12 of Block 4 and Lot
10 of Block 6. Also, l53rd and l52nd are too long. It was suggested that he
could either put in another road, or make cul-de-sacs. Mr. Carlson stated that
they would be putting in natural gas. and asphalt.
Motion by Retzlaff, Seconded by Lobb to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
}.".eeting adjourned at 1:20 A.m.
Mary H. Kiley
Recording Clerk
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