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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
January 23, 1979
AGENDA
Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. #11-78-1
North Birch Creek Estates preliminary Plat
Continued Public Hearing
2. Cornm. #1-79-2
Oakwood Estates Sketch Plan
3. Comm. #1-79-3
Otto Linstad Lot Split
4. Comm. #1-79-4
Mike Good Sketch Plan
5. Comm. #12-78-6
Ordinance 10D (Amendment to Park Dedication
Section of Subdivision Ordinance) Continued
Public Hearing
6. Comm. #1-79-5
Review of Updated Comprehensive Development
Plan
7. Cornm. #9-78-6
Proposed Rum River Ordinance Discussion
For publication on January 19, 1979
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
January 23, 1979
MINUTES
The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order
at 7:30 P.M. by Chairman d'Arcy Bose1l on January 23, 1979 at the Andover City
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Anoka, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Byron Copley (appointed to the Commission by the City
Council on January 11, 1979), Ralph Kishe1, George Lobb,
Jeannine Pyron, and Larry Retzlaff
Commissioners Absent: None (A letter of resignation was received from Walter
Dick on January 16, 1979.)
Also Present: Dave Pi11atzke, Engineer from T.K.D.A., and others
Rosella Sonsteby, 4100 - 7th Avenue North, Andover, asked the Commission for
clarification of Section 4.05 (c) of Ordinance 8 and what the minimum setback
would be for a garage. She was referred to Section 6.02 of Ordinance 8 and
told that the setback depends on the zoning district and whether she is talking
about sideyard, rearyard or front yard. Mrs. Sonsteby said the property is on
Round Lake Boulevard, next to the Hagen's property, in R-3 zoning, and would be
where she just got a variance from the City. She has some lots there and the
people are asking if they can build a garage that faces the easement and is only
10 feet from the easement. They would back out onto the 33' easement and then
drive down the easement to get on Round Lake Boulevard. The Commission told her
they didn't think they would want a new house and garage where the garage is only
10' from the front yard and that there should be 35'. She then asked if they have
to have the garage facing the same as the front of the house. She was told that
it depends on the particular circumstances and she should talk to the Building
Inspector.
Minutes of January 9, 1979
Corrections: page 2, paragraph 2, change "quandrant" to "quadrant"
page 4, paragraph 3, change "fruther" to "further"
page 7 and page 8, motion, change 'updated Community Development
Plan" to "Updated Comprehensive Plan"
Motion by Pyron,
Vote on motion:
Motion carried.
seconded by Kishe1, to approve the Minutes with the noted corrections.
yes - Bose11, Pyron, Kishe1, Lobb; present - Copley, Retzlaff.
North Birch Creek Estates Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #11-78-1)
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They do not have the revised drawings ready so this item will be continued to
the next meeting.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - January 23, 1979
Page 2
Oakwood Estates Sketch Plan (Comm. #1-79-2)
Ernie Rud, surveyor, presented Keith Harstad's sketch plan for 13 lots in the
N~ of Section 9. The property is located south of the power line, east of Round
Lake Boulevard, west of White Oaks Country Estates and north of the preliminary
plat known as Kadlec Addition. The lots are each 2~ acres or more.
Engineer Pi11atzke said that the major issue should be the area north of the
sketch plan, the long narrow parcel of land containing the power line. It would
be somewhat dependent on what might be allowed in the power line easement whether
the land could be developed but it should be looked into. 171st Avenue, in White
Oaks, dead ends on the parcel with the power line. It was suggested that perhaps
it could be extended and connect with the roads in this proposed plat. By doing
this it would allow more than 1 access into White Oaks. Chairman Bose11 informed
Mr. Rud of 2 easements on record at the County Court House for Mr. Harstad's
property. Mr. Rud will check on them.
It was suggested that Flora Street and/or Eide1weiss Street be extended to the
north, which would allow for possible future extension into the piece of land
to the north. The proposed Lot 1, Block 2 has existing structures. Mr. Rud
will now proceed with the prel iminary plat.
Otto Linstad Lot Split Request (Comm. #1-79-3)
The subject property is 300' x 280' in Section 12 and adjacent to Lot 3, Block
4, Pinger's Plaza Addition in the City of Ham Lake. Mr. Linstad owns a piece
of land, Parcel 7300, that is approximately 27 acres. He would like to split
off the subject property and sell it to Rick Franz who lives on Lot 3, Block 4
of Pinger's Plaza. The subject property was created in 1977 when Mr. Linstad
sold 10 acres to Henry Matson. The land he intended to sell was 330' on Crosstown
but 258.08' wide. He was required to increase the width to 300' in order to
get a building permit. In order to maintain the 10-acre size, the subject 300'
x 280' was created.
Rick Franz, 16850 - 3rd Street NE, Ham Lake, asked if there is a possibility
of University Avenue being constructed in the future. If so, it would then divide
the lot his house is on from this land. He wondered whether he could get a building
permit for this land if University Avenue was built. He also mentioned that
the lot his house is on would have double frontage if University Avenue was
constructed.
The Commission said that the lot, 300' x 280', does not meet the zoning ordinance
requirements and Mr. Linstad should have applied for a variance rather than a
lot split. Also discussed whether this land could be combined with Mr. Franz'
property since they would be in 2 different Cities. Mr. Linstad was asked to
fill out a variance form before the next meeting and Chairman Bosel1 will check
with the City Attorney about combining the 2 pieces of property.
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Motion by Kishe1, seconded by Lobb, that the Otto Linstad request for variance
to transfer some land to Rick Franz be continued until the next regular Planning
and Zoning Meeting so that the matter can be looked into regarding the liability
of a parcel of land being adjoined in 2 separate municipalities. Motion carried
unanimously. This will be on the February 13, 1979 agenda.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - January 23, 1979
Page 3
Mike Good Sketch Plan (Comm. #1-79-4)
Mr. Good had called and requested that discussion be continued to the next meeting
on February 13, 1979. Engineer Pi11atzke mentioned that in his review of the
proposed plan that the City's 5-year Municipal State Aid Highway Program would
affect this land. Proposed for 1980 would be the construction of Hanson Boulevard.
There is a problem with this plat in relation to Hanson Boulevard because of
right-of-way that would be required. The substation is already there so probably,
in construction, Hanson Boulevard would have to go along the west side of this
land and would need 120' or 150' of right-of-way. He also mentioned that the
wetlands map takes a lot of land to the north.
The sketch plan will be on the next agenda for discussion with the developer.
Ordinance 10D Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #12-78-6)
Chairman Bose11 reopened the public hearing. Commissioner Retzlaff explained
why this amendment is being proposed. The City has recently been having a problem
with park dedication, whether land or money should be given. He surveyed a number
of other Community's ordinances dealing with the dedication of land for public
uses. The proposed amendment is primarily the City of Maple Grove's Ordinance.
Suggestions and/or discussion: on page 2 delete "standards and guidelines" and
insert "of the Comprehensive Park Development Plan"; on page 3, "fair market"
is being changed to "market value"; on page 5 - whether the Park Commission should
be allowed to establish their own accounting procedure and the problems they
might encounter; the Planning Commission felt that statement should be in the
ordinance but to add, ''with a limit as set by Council Resolution"; on page 6 _
discussed setting a ceiling on adding the 1% for each additional dwelling unit
per acre over 5; the Commission felt that if a large apartment complex were built
or a great deal of homes were built in a small area, a ceiling on land for public
use would not allow enough public land.
The Commission asked that the proposed Ordinance be retyped as changed and sent
to the City Attorney requesting his written comments prior to the next regular
meeting. They also requested that a copy be sent to the Park and Recreation
Commission Chairman, Wes Mand.
Chairman Bose11 called for public input. Mrs. Sonsteby asked for an explanation
on deleting the word "fair" from "market value".
Motion by Lobb, seconded by Pyron, to close the public hearing on Ordinance
10D. Motion carried unanimously.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
Minutes - January 23, 1979
Page 4
Review of Updated Comprehensive Development Plan (Comm. #1-79-5)
Chairman Bosell said that she had talked with Bob Hill of Midwest Planning and
he had told her the updated plan would soon be mailed to the Commission. She
asked the Commission members to review the Planning Tactics and Inventory Update
received already from Midwest. Perhaps by the next agenda the Comprehensive
Plan can then be reviewed.
Proposed Rum River Ordinance Discussion (Comm. #9-78-6)
In their review of the ordinance, the Commission changed or discussed the following:
1) Section 4.04, Definitions - after some of the words being defined it said,
''means'' and others gave the meaning in a separate sentence. It was agreed to
make the definitions consistent and remove the word ''means'' from all of them.
2) In Section 3.02.03 the ordinance said Special Use Permit and elsewhere in
the ordinance "Conditional Use Permit" was used. The Commission agreed to have
it changed to "Conditional Use Permit".
The Commission then asked that it be retyped and sent to the Department of Natural
Resources for their review. It was suggested that a time be set for a meeting
with a representative from the DNR. Chairman Bose11 will take care of it.
Ordinance 8 Amendment regarding Junkyards
Chairman Bose11 advised the Commission of her discussion with the Council and
Attorney on this matter. The new junkyard ordinance still does not deal with
the possibility of getting more junkyards into the City and it does not deal
with the opportunity to eliminate them if they go out of business for a certain
length of time. Suggestions were: eliminate or delete from Ordinance 8, under
Special Uses in Section 7.03 the part stating "auto reduction yard"; thus they
would be a nonconforming use and when their use discontinued, they could not be
restarted; or to change the zoning of the property to that no future junkyards
would be built in that area. Several Commission members felt the amendment
would be better. This will be on the next agenda as a public hearing.
Park Liaison
Chairman Bose11 asked for a volunteer for the position of park liaison - no one
volunteered.
Adiournment
Motion by Retzlaff, seconded by Pyron, to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 10:38 P.M.
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