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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJune 5, 1980 ,. \ o o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o o PARK COMMISSION MEETING - JUNE 5, 1980 MINUTES The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Park Commission was called to order by Chairman Mand at 7:40 p.m., June 5, 1980, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W. Commission Members Present: Commission Member Absent: Also Present: Anderson, LeFebvre, Meyer, Nichols & Rogers Longbella Harvey Kadlec - White Oaks Country Estates Steve Lofgren - Rum River Hockey Assoc. Derril Burger - Andover West Preliminary Plat Keith Nelson - Northglen Preliminary Plat Jack Menkveld - Menkveld's Green Acres WHITE OAK COUNTRY ESTATES Harvey Kadlec wanted to know why White Oaks Country Estates park had not been dredged yet. Chairman Mand stated one reason was that a site plan has not been done for this park; another is tha~prior to last November, any park dedication fees not spent in the year were absorbed at the end of the year. The $2755.00 for Kadlec Addition was received in May, 1979; the $4245.00 for Wobegon Woods was received in January, 1980, and has been placed in the savings account. Mr. Kadlec then questioned if committed park dedication fees could disappear at the end of the year. The money was specifically dedicated for the improvement of White Oaks park and that is reflected in the City Council minutes. He wanted the money found and something done. The secretary was asked to check with the City Clerk to see if this amount of money is still in the books somewhere since it was committed for a specific purpose. The City Attorney will be asked if park dedication fees can be used for site plans since this is the first step to any improvement. As soon as there is something definite to work with, this park will be improved. Mr. Kadlec felt, since running is footpaths and an obstacle course. will be doing some site plans this popular, the entire park should be Chairman Mand informed Mr. Kadlec summer. improved to include a University student Mr. Kadlec was asked if he knew of any people or companies that have drag lines for dredging purposes. He said he knew of about four, but added that none seemed to be too interested in working. He will contact the secretary and give her their names, etc. for quoting purposes. He will also return to the next meeting to find out where the park dedication money went. ANDOVER WEST PRELIMINARY PLAT Derril Burger submitted a new preliminary plat showing a 36.07 acre park plus two lots on Parcel 5400. He has not yet purchased the property. The P & Z Commission is interested in this piece of property and the Mayor indicated that he was also interested. Color aerials of this property were then reviewed by the Commission. Chairman Mand commented there is supposed to be a clay pit from an old brick factory and also possibly indian burial grounds in that area. Lyle Bradley knows the burial ground location but he is out of town for some time. Mr. Burger thought the indian mounds were further south and to the east closer to the lake. ~ere was some discussion on cuI de sac lengthS and other park alternatives. Chairman Mand and Glen Rogers felt there should be another access to the park. Edna Meyer, Sharon Anderson and Steve Nichols thought the park looked alright as proposed. Mr. Burger stated he did not Page #2 ( ) Minutes - June 5, 1980 o r'- ~) cJ want to go back to the recommendation made at the last meeting as he preferred the present location of the park and thought it was better for the City. F'-') '-..,entioned again were the indian mounds. Mr. Burger stated that mounds in the area thought to be indian burial grounds turned out to be hills of poultry manure. Discussed were the pros and cons of walkways, locations and widths. Noted was the word "walkway" appears on the plat between Lots 1 and 2, Block 7. Mr. Burger said there is no walkway, they forgot to erase'the word. MOTION by Mand, seconded by Rogers, to recommend the City Council accept the 36.07 acres shown as park land on the Andover West Preliminary Plat presented on June 5, 1980 with the addition of a 15 ft. walkway located on the east side of Lot 1, Block 7. It is understood the land itself will be donated at 10% of the property developed to be added on to the existing LakeRidge park and carried further south as the different stages are developed and the walkway will be dedicated at the time that area is developed. Discussion: Mr. Burger was asked if the motion was agreeable to him and he said it was. Motion carried unanimously. NORTHGLEN (AKA ANDOVER WOODS) PRELIMINARY PLAT The Commission was presented with a revised plat showing a 3.4 acre park adjoining Quickstroms. Mr. Keith Nelson explained the area is for the most part flat high ground; all water will drain out to the street. Part of Lot 20 will contain a well and surge tank plus ponding. Chairman Mand noted there were quite a few doubles in the plat. This will create a higher population and a greater need for park space. Discussed at length were various lots to enlarge the park. In order to eliminate a lot of angles and a 64' access on a curve, the Commission felt the best alternative would be to add Lots 1 and 2, Block 2, to the park area. There will be some shortage. Mr. Nelson said the developer paid $4,000 an acre for the property and Mr. Voth was willing to pay this amount in lieu of land. MOTION by leFebvre, seconded by Meyer, to recommend the City Council accept the 3.4 acre park shown on the Northglen Preliminary Plat plus Lots 1 and 2, Block 2 and that whatever shortage be cash in lieu of land based on $4,000.00 an acre. Motion carried unanimously. MENKVELD 'S GREEN ACRES PRELIMINARY PLAT This preliminary plat consisting of 5.5 acres is a re-subdivision of Green Acres. Jack Menkveld asked that the park dedication fees be based on four acres as four of the lots totalling 1.5 acres were included in the original subdivision. MOTION by Meyer, seconded by Anderson, to recommend the City Council accept cash in lieu of land to be based on 4 acres on the Menkveld Green Acres Preliminary Plat; the dollar amount to be set at a later date. Motion carried unanimouSly. RUM RIVER HOCKEY ASSOCIATION Chairman Mand advised the rest of the Commission the Park Capital Improvement Committee met and one of the items discussed was the hockey rink. Ray Sowada suggested moving the present f'1.nk on the other side of the tennis courts and somewhat south to take advantage of the '-~~blic Works water system. General discussion involved placement of other rinks, playing fields, roads, equipment, etc. Chairman Mand felt a new rink with lights should be installed first and then move the present rink north of the new rink. A warming house could then be Pagi' #3 .. \ ) Minutes - June 5, 19~u placed between the two. In the past,in Columbia Heights, they used old trailers as temporary warming houses which were removed and stored during the summer. Mentioned was if this was done, it would be against City ordinance, however, a special use permit may be ,btained. \ JJ / .... \.J {- , \,J G Steve Lofgren said he would try to get quotes for a new rink by the next meeting. Last year's price was $5600.00. Lumber prices have dropped due to the slump in housing, possibly this , figure is still good. The major cost of moving the present rink would be manpower _ an extra set of boards isn't that expensive. Mr. Lofgren said he could obtain the manpower. CROOKED LAKE BOAT RAMP PROJECT The Commission reviewed the site plan with regard to the parking lot made by the DNR. One space at the far end looks as though it will be hard to get in and out of. The houses will be up for bids by the end of the summer and the City will have complete access to the properties by March 31, 1981. CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT MEETING During this meeting, the Co~mittee compiled a list of parks to be improved in priority order They were: 1. Fox Meadows 2. Cedar Crest 3. City Hall (hockey rinks) 4. Hawk Ridge 5. LakeRidge 6. Oak Hollow Chairman Mand advised that Oak Hollow has an area suitable for playing fields and asked Bill LeFebvre to check it out. Other items were discussed as a result of the June 3rd City Council meeting but no decisions or recommendations made. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by LeFebvre to ajourn. Meeting adjourned 11:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted: ~dJ~~/ e Ellen Bakke Secretary . , \ , ,