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PARK CO~~ISSION lffiETING - MAY 15, 1980
MINUTES
The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Park Commission was called to order by Chairman Mand
at 7:35 p.m., Thursday, May 15, 1980, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W.
Commission Members Present:
Commission Members Absent:
Also Present:
Anderson, LeFebvre, Longbel1a, Nichols & Rogers
Meyer
Meadowood residents (4)
Derri1 Burger - Andover West Preliminary Plat
Gary West - Coon Rapids Athletic Assoc.
MEADOWOOD PARKS
Lorraine Vokaty stated they had selected four pieces of equipment out of the Game Time catalog.
She had a salesman come out from Big Toys, Inc. Similar equipment, which would accommodate
40-50 kids would run about the same price. This salesman advised it would take 10-12 men one
Saturday to put together and install the equipment. Ideally it should be installed where
there is at least 8 inches of sand - soil correction will not be necessary.
Doug Anderson said the phone company will donate old telephone poles for installation in the
trail area. Noted was there will be no wood chips for sale for at least a month. Five of
the lot irons have been located by City staff. It was suggested possibly the others could be
located by the City Engineer in. June. The area is heavily overgrown wi th brush, etc. Mrs.
Vokaty stated Bill Viridine of the U. S. Agricultural & Soil Conservation Service, 421-2503,
met with them and seemed very impressed with their plans. Financial assistance from'this
agency was also mentioned.
On the SUbject of the tennis court, Mr. Anderson received estimates of $20,000.00. They have
decided to let this ride and concentrate on the playground equipment and the trail at this time.
Glen Rogers advised the Council will want something on paper. Chairman Mand asked that the
equipment be placed in priority order. The residents then left to draw a site plan to scale
and Xerox the equipment from the catalog.
Chairman Mand stated last Monday night the Council gave him the impression they wanted something
done with this and are willing to help find some money to do something with the parks this
year. Possibly some of the money for the Crooked Lake boat landing could be put into this
project and replaced at a later date when park dedication fees come in. The residents have
done a lot of background work on this project and are willing to furnish the labor.
Sharon Anderson somewhat Objected to the project for the reason nothing has been done to
improve the parks in the northern part of the City. Valley View and Cedar Crest were platted
before Meadowood and she felt the money would be better spent in Fox Meadows. Meadowood
will be continued.
FOX MEADOWS
Bill LeFebvre commented Fox Meadows would be a better location for tennis courts than
Meadowood. Chairman Mand thought quotes should be obtained for the grading of Fox Meadows.
He mentioned he talked to Ray Sowada who suggested renting an earth mover scraper to reshape
Qe City Hall site and do the work in-house rather contracting. The rent is $4900.00 a month.
J1en Rogers felt if it was left up to staff, it wouldn't get done - they haven't got the time
to do it.
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~e secretary was asked
returns the site plan.
to obtain quotes for the grading of Fox Meadows after Sharon Anderson
Several other site!for leveling were also mentioned.
There is an estimated $1700.00 left in the equipment portion of the budget. Chairman Mand
felt money for equipment could be taken out of the improvement portion as equipment is an
improvement.
LAKERIDGE PARK
Chairman Mand stated Burt Kraabel thought a ditch in the area of the cuI de sac could solve
the water problem. He quoted a price of $ISOO to $2000 to level an area 250' x 390'. An
alternative would be to haul fill generated from the Round-Lake Blvd. improvement project
into this park.
SOCCER
Bill LeFebvre commented Darrel Danielson quit as President of the North Metro Soccer Assoc.
He is now President. The Association has a great number of teams this year which creates a
need for more fields. He asked if they could use Chapman's and Northwoods East park for
practice. They would work their schedule around the softball practices. These soccer players
are age 12 and under.
MOTrON by LeFebvre, seconded by Anderson, to allow the North Metro Soccer Assocation to use
Chapman's and Northwoods East parks this summer for practice only provided a schedule is
furnished. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion: The Commission was informed the Public Works Department would like to move the
swing set in Northwoods West, west of the tennis courts. This was agreeable. Bill LeFebvre
mentioned the Soderville Athletic Association is only using Pine Hills twice a week this
summer. Maybe this area could be used for soccer practice. He then described the need for
a culvert in order to park in the park.
MEADOWOOD - CONTD.
The residents returned with a site plan and a copy of what type of wood structure playground
equipment they would like placed in the small park. They did not set any priorities but felt
the double slide climber would accommodate the most people at any given time. Glen Rogers
suggested to recommend ordering all four pieces since the labor will be furnished.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Anderson, to recommend the City Council authorize the City Clerk
to purchase playground equipment and materials to improve the Meadowood parks at a cost not
to exceed $3,000.00; further that this money be taken out of the 1979 surplus. Motion carried
unanimously.
Discussion: The residents questioned if they had to clear the entire walkway to create a
trail 40 ft. wide. They were told a 10 ft. trail was sufficient for a canoe trail. Also
mentioned were a few trees would have to be removed. They will contact Ray Sowada to set
up a meeting. Copies of the tree cutting permit were furnished.
COON RAPIDS ATHLETIC ASSOCATION - NORTHWOODS EAST PARK
::) roster and a schedule has been received from Gary West. Every girl on the team is an Andover
resident. They would like 36 yards of crushed lime for the infield. The estimated cost is
$250.00. If staff is unable to spread it, parents of the girls will help. He stated he has a
drag for dragging.
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MOTION by Mand, seconded by Nichols, to purchase 36 yds. of ag lime at a cost not to exceed
$250.00, payment to be taken out of the 1980 Capital Outlay - Improvement budget; and also
J "'he secretary is to check with Public Works to see if they have the time available to spread it.
''-_~tion carried unanimoUSly.
It was brought to the Commission's attention that a schedule has not yet been received from
the Soderville Athletic Association. Chairman Mand mentioned he received a call from a
woman on a softball team who wanted to lmow if there were any available fields in Andover.
The secretary was asked to contact Larry Bross regarding a schedule.
ANDOVER WEST PRELIMINARY PLAT
Chairman Mand advised the City Council at their May 6th meeting generally agreed that the
Commission consider accepting maximum parkland which would tie into LakeRidge park in order
to create a regional park for the area in accordance with the master park plan.
Mr. Burger stated the board had just turned 1800 from what he understood last July, ie., one
or two lots for an access to LakeRidge. He has already spent $15,000.00 in engineering fees.
The lots mentioned by the Council were marked on a map. Mr. Burger questioned if he would
also have to vacate the street portions. Chairman Maud said the motion did not mention
streets but he could see no rationale for a paved street down the middle of a park and
assumed the streets could be eliminated. Mr. Burger then complained somewhat about the lack
of coordination of efforts between the City Council, Planning and Zoning and Park Board.
However, he stated whatever decision was made, he would smile and live with it.
The City Council meeting had just adjourned. The Mayor and several Councilmen were asked for
a more detailed explanation of what was discussed at their May 6th meeting with reference to
parkland in this area. Councilman Orttel could see no reason for an access leading to lowland
in LakeRidge, several others agreed with him. Mayor Windschitl reiterated his previous
remarks regarding a regional park. He also explained the preliminary plat does not show any
parkland. The preliminary has to be complete, even if the final is going to be partially
filed. In order for the attorney to draw up an agreement, he must lmow the amount of money
and/or land dedication and location. If parkland is dedicated, the legal would be a metes
and bounds description. Chairman Mand asked what would happen if the area next to LakeRidge
was never developed and eventually sold to someone else. Mr. Burger advised if that happened,
the plat would be voided.
Then suggested was the possibility of Mr. Burger adding the next 40 acres (65920-5400) to the
east (330 ft. abuts LakeRidge Park) and dedicating most of this parcel as parkland for the
historic value. The old clay pit and possibly the indian burial ground> were thought to be
located somewhere in this area. One or two lots could be created off the end of 152nd or
151st. Mr. Burger cOllDTIented that was an interesting thought. However, he asked if he bought
it, would the Park Board, Planning and Zoning and City Council accept it? Chairman Mand
stated he didn't lmow for sure. Mr. Burger then asked for a decision tonight due to the fact
the plat is on the Planning and Zoning agenda for the 20th of May. Whatever is decided can
always be changed if he is able to purchase those 40 acres.
Steve Nichols and Bill LeFebvre suggested various lots which would total approximately 32 acres
if 2 acres of road surface was included.
MOTION by
lots, which
parkland:
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LeFebvre, seconded by Anderson, to recommend the City Council accept the following
are listed in priority order, on the Andover West preliminary plat as dedicated
Block 7,
Block 4,
Block 3,
Lots
Lots
Lots
I, 2, 3, 4 and 5;
2 and 1;
8, 7, 6 and 5
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It is understood that this property will be acquired by the City at the 10% land dedication
during the various phases of development; in computing the total acreage of these lots, it
" ~s determined approximately 2 acres are now shown as streets which will not have to be
'-_Jonstructed. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion: Mr. Burger asked if the Commission was still interested in the 40 acres to the
east. The answer was yes and he was told to call the secretary and inform her whether or not
he was able to purchase this property. Chairman Mand and Bill LeFebvre volunteered to look
at the land in question. An attempt will also be made to find an aerial photograph of this
area.
Due to an oversight, no one from the hockey association was present. Bill LeFebvre commented
the new president is Steve Lofgren from Isanti.
HAWK RIDGE PARK LEASE
The Commission was advised last year Mr. Linton requested to also rent the park for the 1980
season. A new lease has been typed, raising the rental fee 10% (inflation) for a total of
$137.50 Due to the requests for playing fields, Chairman Mand thought there would be room
for at least two softball fields and two soccer fields in this park.
He further stated a girl, who will be working for an engineering firm this summer, contacted
him and said she would be willing to work up park site plans at minimum costs. This "intern-
ship" is a requirement in order to obtain a degree in landscape architecture. She possibly
could work up plans for City Hall and Hawk Ridge. This SUbject is to be placed on the next
agenda.
A question arose as to what happens to the rent money. The secretary advised she assumed it
was put into general revenue under rent. The Commission felt this money should be set aside
and used to pay for the park site plans.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Anderson, to recommend the City Council renew the Hawk Ridge
lease to Mr. Linton and that the money received be allocated to pay for a site plan of the
park. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion:
improve the
next fall.
The secretary was asked to inform Mr. Linton of the Commission's intentions to
park and request that he inform City Hall when the last cutting of alfalfa is done
General discussion involved obtaining quotes on leveling Lunds Evergreen Estates to make it
suitable for a playing field and checking on a culvert for Pine Hills.
Chairman Mand also informed the Commission the City Council wants a list of dollars, hours,
equipment and a schedule for park improvements by their June 3rd meeting. Glen Rogers stated
it was impossible for existing staff to set any schedule. He felt quotes should be obtained
and the work contracted out. Chairman Mand felt they should try to do one park, possibly Hawk
Ridge, as Fox Meadows would be more than the City equipment could handle.
The secretary was asked to contact Lary Carlson to see if he would be agreeable to the City
using the park dedication fee of $3555.00 to level Fox Meadows due to the fact there is more
demand for playing fields than sliding hills at this time. It was felt this money could
eventually be paid back with the unallocated park dedication fees.
. ~en Rogers told the Commission they should start thinking about a bond issue now to present in
~~~3 years because they are a lot of work and described what was done in Coon Rapids.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by LeFebvre,
Respectfully submitted: ~ ~g.
to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 11:10 p.m.
Secretary