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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 23, 1980
7:30 P.M.
Call to order
Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. 1112-80-1
2. Comm. 1112-80-2
3. Comm. 1112-80-5
4. Comm. #9-78-6
5. Comm. 1112-80-3
6. Comm. 1112-80-4
Connie Marek Lot Split
Kummala Sketch Plan
Wm. C. Rademacher Variance
Scenic River Ordinance
Earth Home Ordinance
Ordinance 8, Sections 4.05 & 3.020NW)
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 23, 1980
MINUTES
The regularly scheduled Andover planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by
Chairperson Bosell at 7:31 P.M., Tuesday, December 23, 1980 at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Anoka, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Apel, Kishel, Lobb, Anstett, Scherer
Commissioners Absent: Johnson
Also Present: Connie Marek, Martin Weber, Wayne Anderson, interested residents
Approval of Minutes
November 25, 1980
MOTION by Kishel, seconded by Anstett to approve the minutes of November 25, 1980 as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
Connie Marek Lot Split (Comm. #12-80-1)
Connie Marek, 13718 Eidelweiss Street N.W. - Stated that she owns a lot on Eidelweiss Street N.W.
and Bunker Lake Boulevard which she had surveyed and split into two parcels. She was unaware
that she had to come to the City to apply for a lot split. She noted that she had talked to
the City Engineer several times regarding splitting this property but he did not inform her
of the need for a formal lot split. She also noted that the property has 2 sewer stubs.
Commissioner Kishel felt that there was a problem with the depth and width of the newly created
lot because it's a narrow pie-shaped lot. Mrs. Marek noted that when the lot was surveyed,
the surveyor didn't start measuring at the narrowest point of the lot and she felt that it met
the depth and width requirements.
Chairperson Bosell stated that a variance would be required as the lot doesn't meet the width
requirements.
Commissioner Kishel noted that the lot does have the required 20,000 square feet.
Chairperson Bosell stated that the Special Assessments on these two lots have been paid and
that the new lot would be subject to a $100.00 park dedication fee.
Discussion continued on whether or not the new lot meets the width and depth requirements.
Carl Foster, 9808 - 5th Street N.E., Blaine - felt that the lot does meet the depth and width
requirements and a variance would not be required.
MOTION by Apel, seconded by Kishel that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to
the City Council approval of a lot split for Connie Marek on the property described as:
Tract A: That part of the SE~ of the NW~ of Section 33, Township 32, Range 24 in Anoka County,
Minnesota described as follows: Commencing at the Southwest corner of said SE~ of the NW~;
Cence East (assumed bearing) on the South line of said SE~ of the NW~ a distance of 835.15
bt; thence North 1008'24" East a distance of 50.01 feet to the point of beginning of land
to be described; thence continue North 1008'24" East a distance of 1.31 feet; thence deflect
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,.left in a Northwesterly direction on a curve having a radius of 104 feet a distance of 67.16
~et; thence North 35051'36" West a distance of 94.13 feet; thence deflect right in a North-
westerly direction on a curve having a radius of 782.20 feet and a central angle of 3039'54"
a distance of 50.03 feet; thence Southwesterly to a point 600 feet East of the West line of said
SE~ of the NW~ as measured along the South line thereof and 150.01 feet North of the South
line of said SE~ of the NW~ as measured along the West line thereof; thence Southerly and para-
llel to said West line a distance of 100 feet to a point 50 feet North of, as measured at
right angles to, the South line of said SE~ of the NW~; thence East and parallel to said South
line a distance of 235.15 feet to the point of beginning. Tract B: That part of the SE~ of
the NW~ of Section 33, Township 32, Range 24 in Anoka County, Minnesota described as follows:
Commencing at the Southwest corner of said SE~ of the NW~; thence East (assumed bearing) on
the South line of said SE~ of the NW~ a distance of 835.15 feet; thence North 1008'24" East
a distance of 51.32 feet; thence deflect left in a Northwesterly direction on a curve having
a radius of 104 feet a distance of 67.16 feet; thence North 35051'36" West a distance of 94.13
feet; thence deflect right in a Northwesterly direction on a curve having a radius of 782.20
feet and a central angle of 3039'54" a distance of 50.03 feet to the point of beginning of
land to be described; thence continue Northwesterly on same described curve to the right
having a radius of 782.20 feet with a central angle of 33020'06" for a distance of 455.09 feet
to a point which is 600 feet easterly of the West line of said SE~ of the NW~ as measured along
the South line thereof; thence Southerly and parallel with the West line of said SE~ of the NW~
and to a point 150.01 feet North of the South line of said SE~ of the NW~ as measured along
the West line thereof; thence Northeasterly to the point of beginning., with a variance being
granted on the newly created lot because the minimum lot depth does not meet the ordinance
requirements and a $100.00 park dedication fee be paid. Reasons for approval are: 1) It
conforms to the current zoning in the area; 2) a public hearing was held and no opposition was
presented; 3) it does not adversely affect the health, safety, welfare or morals of the
residents; 4) It conforms to our basic Comprehensive plan;5) It is in a sewered area and is
presently served by two sewer stubs; 6) The Special Assessments have been paid in full.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on January 20, 1981.
Discussion: Bob Palmer asked if Ms. Marek had to pay a variance fee. Chairperson Bosell
stated that the variance is a part of the lot split and no fee is required.
Kurnmala Sketch plan (Comm. #12-80-2)
Martin Weber, Waverly, Minnesota, representing Curtis Kummala - stated that Mr. Kummala would
like to create 5 Limited Industrial lots. Mr. Weber feels that the lots all meet our basic
ordinance requirements. They have sent the sketch plan to the County Engineer and have received
his remarks.
Chairperson Bosell read a memo from the City Engineer which noted the following: 1) The lot
sizes and dimensions conform to Ordinance 8; 2) Drainage and utility easements will be required
on the plat; 3) All of the lots front on County State Aid Highways. Since this area is zoned
Light Industrial, there may be a lot of traffic going to and from these lots. Ordinance 10
prohibits direct vehicular access from the lots to these thoroughfares. Therefore, it would
be desirable to have a service road or other interior street system to provide access to these
lots.
Martin Weber - asked what the requirements for a service road are. It was suggested that Mr.
Weber contact the City Engineer regarding the service road requirements.
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~airperson Bosell noted that Mr. Kummala might prefer to put in an interior street rather than
a service road. Mr. Weber asked if a cul-de-sac would have to be blacktopped with curb and
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.~tter. Chairperson Bosell stated that only blacktop is required unless there are problems
':th erosion. Mr. Weber was asked to contact the City Engineer regarding this also.
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Bob Palmer, Andover Fire Chief - asked how far it is from this property to the existing street
(162nd Lane). Mr. Weber stated that it's 300-400 feet. Mr. Palmer asked how the County felt
about having 2 streets that close together. Chairperson Bosell noted that a letter from the
County has been received noting that all of the lots can front on the County roads.
Commissioners Apel and Anstett felt that there should be a service road rather than an interior
street.
Chairperson Bosell asked what kind of development Mr. Kummala is proposing. Mr. Weber stated
that he is just going to sell the lots after they are developed.
Chairperson Bosell noted that Mr. Kummala will be required to take care of his storm water
which might require a ponding area. She also noted that the lots all have to meet the 24,000
square foot requirement.
This will be continued until such time as Mr. Kummala submits a revised sketch plan.
Bob Palmer, Andover Fire Chief - stated that he would like to have all new preliminary plats
routed to the involved departments (Public Works, Fire Department) prior to the Council's
review. The Recording Secretary was asked to make sure that all new plats are routed accord-
ingly.
William C. Rademacher Variance (Comm. #12-80-5)
Wayne Anderson, 1018 Main Street, Minneapolis - stated that they would like to vary from
Ordinances 8 and 10 so that they can develop their superette in two stages. The first stage
(Bill's Superette) is already completed and they would like to complete the second stage
sometime in 1981. They are not sure what the rest of the building will contain. He then
presented a sketch plan to the Commissioners showing what the completed bUilding will look like.
Commissioner Scherer asked what they will do about the parking. Mr. Anderson stated that they
have looked at that and they can meet the parking requirements. Chairperson Bosell noted that
the City Engineer will be reviewing the parking requirements. She also noted that the under-
lying factor for this variance request is so that Mr. Rademacher can secure a mortgage on the
property that is developed. This is in line with what has been proposed all along.
Commissioners Apel and Scherer didn't have any problems with granting the variance.
Wayne Anderson - stated that the reason they moved so quickly with the superette was to show
the city that they are serious about their project.
Chairperson Bosell noted that there are three variances that will be required: 1) Ordinance 8,
Section 6.02 - The area requirement is 2 acres. She suggested that before this goes to the
Council, the lots should be identified with their legal descriptions; 2) Ordinance 8, Section
6.02 - The side yard setback will be a zero lot line; 3~ection 14 of Ordinance 10 deals with
restrictions on conveyances. Ordinance 8, Section 5.04 - states that a variance can be granted
if it's necessary to the reasonable use of the land.
)'~ION by Apel, seconded by Kishel that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to
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needed are as follows: 1) A variance from Ordinance 8, Section 6.02, minimum requirements as
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,~~o lot area. The variance requested is related to the one acre parcel legally described as
~ \at part of Lot 1, lying south of the north 170.00 feet thereof, Block 2, Andover Community
-Shopping Center, according to the plat on file in the office of the County Recorder, Anoka
County, Minnesota; 2) A variance from Ordinance 8, Section 6.02 as to the side yard setback.
This variance will allow for a zero lot line; 3) A variance from Ordinance 10, Section 14 to
allow Mr. Rademacher to file and record the lot legally described as The North 170.00 feet of
Lot 1, Block 2, Andover Community Shopping Center, according to the plat on file in the office
of the County Recorder, Anoka County, Minnesota. The variances are recommended for approval
for the following reasons: 1) They are necessary to the reasonable use of the land; 2) They
will not adversely affect the existing or proposed use of the adjacent land; 3) They do not
violate the intent of the Comprehensive Plan and are consistent with the overall plan submitted
to the city, i.e., Anoka County Soil Conservation plans and subsequent approval.; 4) There was
no public opposition and no comments from the City Engineer.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on January 20, 1981.
At this time a gentleman from the audience asked to make some comments regarding the Connie
Marek lot split.
Ingo Schalwig, 13725 Eidelweiss Street N.W. - stated that he was told several months ago that
this particular lot could not be split. (Chairperson Bosell noted that at the time he was
told that, the zoning was such that it couldn't be split. However, the property has since
been rezoned and can be split.) Mr. Schalwig questioned whether the new lot would now be
assessed for the blacktop street as the property owners in the area were charged for it. It
was suggested that he take that matter up with the City Council.
(Recess 8:45 - Reconvene 8:55)
Scenic River Ordinance (Comm. #9-78-6)
Chairperson Bosell noted that a letter has been received from the Department of Natural
Resources requesting several items be changed in our ordinance.
Item 2- Section 5.02.0l(2)(a)- should be changed from ''Future Subdivisions" to ''Newly Created
Lots" .
Item 3
A new map showing the scenic river designation will be drawn up and sent to the DNR.
Item 1 - Section 5.02.01(1) - Chairperson Bosell noted that if we reduce the size of non-
riparian lots to 2~ acres, the DNR wants 300 feet of frontage on each lot.
Commissioner Anstett felt that we should go along with 4 acres for both riparian and non-
riparian lots.
Commissioner Apel noted that the Commission already made their recommendation and all that
needs to be done now is to satisfy the red tape.
MOTION by Kishel, seconded by Apel that the Recording Secretary make a formal request to the
DNR for amending Section 5.02.01(1) regarding the intent of our motion dated October 21, 1980,
i.e., requiring 2~ acres with the minimum width of 300 feet on the river because in our prior
recommendation it was our intent to include that in our ordinance. The reason we originally
r-\opted the 2~ acre minimum was to be consistent with the surrounding municipalities, township,
\--~ the County of Anoka as to size and width along the scenic river.
Vote on motion: Yes - Kishel, Apel, Bosell, Lobb. No - Anstett, Scherer
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,~~scussion: Commissioner Anstett didn't feel that 2~ acre lots are sufficient for rural or
( i;enic areas. Chairperson Bosell noted that by voting no, Commissioner Anstett is in conflict
-with the Comprehensive Plan that she recommended we adopt. Commissioner Scherer stated that
scenic river doesn't mean anything - you are treating the river lots just like any other lots.
Earth Home Ordinance (Comm. #12-80-3)
Chairperson Bosell noted that the Recording Secretary has ordered a book regarding earth homes
from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development which will help in writing this
ordinance. This book has not been received as yet.
Inasmuch as Commissioner Scherer has quite a lot of information on earth homes, he was requested
to share it with the Commission. He also knows a man who will attend one of the Planning
Commission meetings to discuss earth homes.
This item will be continued until such time as Commissioner Scherer can get his material
together.
Commissioner Lobb asked if this would lead to an ordinance on solar heating. Chairperson
Bosell noted that at the present time there is nothing in the state regarding solar heating.
Commissioner Lobb was requested to gather together any material available regarding solar
heating.
Ordinance 8 Sections 4. - and 3.02
Comm. ff12-80-4
Commissioner Kishel stated that the reason this is on the agenda is because one of the
Councilmen felt the Commission was being too restrictive in its decisions on accessory build-
ings.
Chairperson Bose11 noted that the Commissioners should determine if they're being consistent
in their recommendations.
Commissioner Lobb stated that the Commission was being too lenient.
Commissioner Anstett noted that according to the City Council minutes, Councilman Lachinski
stated that perhaps on larger lots we could allow a garage to be located closer to the front
lot line than the house.
The Commissioners were asked to review variances that were approved and denied in the past to
determine if any changes needed to be made in the ordinance.
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This will be continued to January 13, 198&.
MOTION by Lobb, seconded by Anstett to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned
at 9:40 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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..... ._:cording Secretary