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HomeMy WebLinkAboutSeptember 23, 1980 o o o Call to order Approval of minutes 1. Corom. 113-80-6 2. Corom. 115-80-3 3. Corom. 116-80-5 4. Comm. 118- 80- 5 5. Corom. 118-80-10 6. Corom. 118-80-12 o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 23, 1980 7:30 P.M. Florian Backowski Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Andover Community Shopping Center Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Rosella's Addition Preliminary Plat Public Hearing, Continued Dog Bite Ordinance Ordinance 8, Sec. 7.01 & 3.02 Multiple Conversion Ordinance '. o o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o o REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING SEPTEMBER 23, 1980 MINUTES The Regularly Scheduled Planning and Zoning Coromission meeting was called to order by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell at 7:31 P.M. on Tuesday, September 23, 1980 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Anoka, Minnesota. Coromissioners Present: Apel, Kishel, Anstett, Johnson, Lobb Commissioners Absent: Scherer Also Present: City Engineer, Larry Winner; Rosella Sonsteby; Florian Backowski; Wayne Anderson, Wm. Rademacher & Associates; Edward Ames, Orr-Schelen-Mayeron & Associates; interested residents. Approval of Minutes September 11, 1980 Page 5, Roger Reini's variance - add to Discussion: a hardship was created because of the topography of the lot and because of the size of Mr. Reini's present garage. MOTION by Lobb, seconded by Anstett to approve the minutes of September 11, 1980 as corrected. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 2 present (Johnson, Kishel) vote. Chairperson Bosell noted that the Comprehensive Plan revisions received from Northwest Associated Consultants will be added to this evening's agenda as item #7. Florian Backowski Preliminary Plat Public Hearing (Corom. #3-80-6) Chairperson Bosell opened the Public Hearing. City Engineer, Larry Winner reviewed his letter regarding the plat, noting the following items: 1) The rear yard setback line should be 50 feet rather than 10 feet as shown; 2) The boundary line must be tied into the nearest quarter section or section line; 3) The existing zoning classifications for tracts of land within 300 feet of the plat must be shown; 4) Show the width of CSAH #7 and Dakota Street and the type of width of existing surfacing on CSAH #7, County Road 58 and Dakota Street; 5) Two soil borings must be submitted to show the type of soil and depth of water table; 6) An overall grading plan must be submitted with minimum basement floor elevations shown; 7) A future resub- division plan must be submitted; 8) The source of water supply and facilities for sewage disposal must be stated; 9) 20 foot wide utility and drainage easements centered on the rear and side lot lines and 10 foot wide utility and drainage easements adjacent to the street right-of-way must be shown; 10) A 30 foot wide drainage easement covering the existing drainage ditch course must be shown; 11) No park dedication has been shown; 12) The plat must contain a location map showing the plat location in the city. o Chairperson Bosell asked Mr. Backowski who the fee owner of the property is. Mr. Backowski stated that he and his son are the fee owners. Chairperson Bosell asked the engineer i Lot A has enough area to make 39,000 square feet Planning and Zoni~o~i~~;on Meeting September 23, 1980 - Minutes Page 2 u o rj o of buildable property. Mr. Winner noted that all of the lots are lower than the streets and therefore. a grading plan will be needed to determine this. Chairperson Bosell noted that because all of the lots front on county roads, a variance will be required. Commissioner Kishel felt the plat should go to the County Highway Department as the driveways will exit onto county roads. This will be continued until October 14, 1980. Andover Community Shopping Center Preliminary Plat Public Hearing (Corom. #5-80-3) Chairperson Bosell opened the Public Hearing. Edward Ames, Orr-Schelen-Mayeron & Associates, representing Wm. Rademacher & Associates _ stated that the fee owners of the property are Wm. Rademacher and Good Value Homes. The concept plan for the shopping center was previously approved by the City Council. The northerly and westerly portions of the shopping center are zoned Neighborhood Business; the remainder is zoned Shopping Center. The surrounding properties are zoned R-4; the properties across Round Lake Boulevard are R-4; the property to the south is R-4 and Neighborhood Business. The northern part of the shopping center is somewhat less than one acre and will require a variance. A portion of the Shopping Center zoned property (Lot 1, Block 5) which is separated by Quay Street is only 53,240 square feet. This would also require a variance. The sanitary sewer. water and street surfacing are presently under construction. The storm water will be draining to l40th Lane and to the drainage pond which is on Good Value's property. Plans have been submitted for a dairy store with completion expected in January 1981. A restaurant and bank should be completed between October of 1981 and January of 1982. The larger buildings are proposed to be completed in April of 1982. A medical clinic should be completed within 1 year to 15 months. An office building is scheduled for completion in October 1981. It was mentioned by the Commission that if the clinic fronts on Bunker Lake Boulevard, a variance will be required as it does not meet the width requirement. Wayne Anderson, Rademacher & Associates noted that the clinic will front on Quay Street. City Engineer Larry Winner reviewed his letter regarding the plat. Wayne Anderson noted that the park dedication will probably be cash in lieu of land. He asked the engineer why the soil borings on the east end of Block 4 had to be done now. Mr. Winner stated that to determine if the final grade will be high enough so that the water table will not interfere with bUilding construction on the site they should be done now. Chairperson Bosell noted that the square footage of the lots should be shown on the plat and that the plat should be submitted to the County Highway Department for their coroments. Commissioner Kishel mentioned is not up to date. It should easement should also be shown that the width of Bunker Lake show a 60 foot right-of-way. along County Roads 9 and 116. Boulevard as shown on the plat A 15 foot utility and drainage o Chairperson Bosell also noted that the corners should be radiused. Irene Kitzberger, 3548 - l4lst Lane N.W. - asked if there would be some type of buffer ". Planning and zon~~commi:-)on Meeting September 23, 1980 - Minutes Page 3 u o \r-') between the proposed office building in the north part of the shopping center and - Quickstrom's Addition. She has small children and is concerned about the traffic. Wayne Anderson - stated that they will be putting in trees and shrubs to buffer the residential area. The parking will be toward l40th Lane and Round Lake Boulevard. Chairperson Bosell require variances. so everyone should stated that the lots the don't meet the required square footage will From the beginning these lots were proposed to be the sizes shown be aware of it. This will be continued to October 14, 1980. Rosella's Addition Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing (Comm. #6-80-5) Chairperson Bosell reopened the public hearing. City Engineer Larry Winner reviewed his letter regarding the revised plat. The items noted were: 1) Lot 13. Block 1 will require a variance as it is 100 feet deep, not the required 130 feet; 2) Lots 8 and 9, Block 1 are more than twice as large as the average size lot. The plat has been revised to make some of the larger lots smaller; 3) No park dedication is shown; 4) A letter was received from the County Highway Department tonight indicating that l42nd Avenue should line up with l42nd Avenue east of Round Lake Boulevard; 5) A final street and storm sewer plan will have to be submitted prior to construction for approval. This can be done while the plat is in process. Rosella Sonsteby - stated that she went to the Park Board last week and they have not decided yet what they want. Discussion centered on the alignment of l42nd Avenue in this plat with l42nd Avenue on the east side of Round Lake Boulevard. Mr. Winner stated that the construction plans for the Southwest area call for a 66 foot right of way for l42nd Avenue East of Round Lake Boulevard. It appears that the streets will line up with each other if this is true. Mr. Winner will check on this. A memo was received from the clerk regarding a phone call from the City Attorney stating that the preliminary plat could be approved before the easement is vacated. However, it must be vacated before the final plat is approved. Commissioner Kishel was confused as to where the edge of the plat actually is. He stated that the County Right-of-Way Plat should be shown on this plat. Mrs. Haslip, 14269 Vintage Street N.W. - stated that one of the Park Board members mentioned to her that the Park Coromission is going to see if James Francis will sell the city some of his property to be used for park land. Chairperson Bosell noted that the following items need to be done on the plat _ The County Road 9 right-of-way needs to be shown more specifically and their plat needs to be indicated; the easement on l42nd Avenue east of Round Lake Boulevard needs to be clarified; park dedication needs to be determined; the two lots that are more than twice the average size and the lot depth on Lot 13 will require variances; the easement needs to be vacated. .~ Mrs. Haslip - noted that there have been several law suits regarding this easement in the ~J past. If the easement is vacated. what happens to the Hagen's driveway? Or-', Planning and Zoni ~orom~:on September 23, 1980 - Minutes Page 4 Meeting u o r~'~ Mr. Winner stated that the easement would be left open to the Hagen's west property line. '--/ Peter Rauen, Use Permit. Planning and 4110 - l47th Lane N.W. - asked if this type of land use requires a Special Chairperson Bosell explained that this was dealt with at the September 11th Zoning Coromission meeting. Chairperson Bosell noted that Ms. Sonsteby is under contract road work in Northglen and they will be finished there soon. weeks for approval and call the road crew back, it will cost asked the Commission what they recommend dOing. with the people doing the If she has to wait five her a lot of money. She Commissioner Lobb stated he would rather wait to see what the Park Board wants and also felt the easement should be vacated before approval. Commissioner Anstett said that she would go along with Commissioner Lobb. She noted that there are a number of outstanding items on the plat but she understands Ms. Sonsteby's problem with the road. Chairperson Bosell suggested that Ms. Sonsteby go before the City Council on October 7th to explain her situation and perhaps they could give her conceptual approval so she can get her road work done. Commissioner Johnson was concerned about the lack of park dedication. The clerk will send a memo to the Park Board stating there was a great deal of concern expressed as to the inadequate park area relative to the platted area. This will be continued until October 14. 1980. (Recess 9:00 - Reconvene 9:12) Dog Bite Ordinance (Corom. #8-80-5) The City Attorney, in a phone call to the clerk, noted that rather then taking dog bite complaints to the City Council, the deputy or the dog catcher could handle them. He also suggested that the Coromission obtain copies of other cities' ordinances from the League of Minnesota Cities. The clerk will contact the League. This will be continued to October 14, 1980. Ordinance 8, Sections 7.01 & 3.02 (Comm. #8-80-10) Chairperson Bosell stated that she talked to the City Clerk in regard to Section 7.01 and asked her if the word "owner" was used rather than "resident" if this would get around the problem with Urban/Agricultural. She did not receive a definite answer. Section 3.02 - Coroments regarding this section are needed from the building inspector. The clerk will ask him to attend the October 14th meeting. This will be continued to October 14, 1980. ~, Multiple Conversion Ordinance (Comm. #8-80-12) '--j Coromissioner Apel noted that in the Uniform Condominium Act received from the League. there is a section that states you cannot prohibit a person from converting a rental unit into a condominium if it meets the criteria of the rest of our ordinances. 1. d f---"'C ,..--..... P ann~ng an zonl".../ orom; ion September 23, 1980 - MindL~s Page 5 Meeting -, (J o . ., . , Commissioner Kishel noted that the building in question (Philip Hughes' property) would probably not meet the building specifications that exist in the city. The party wall is probably not adequate as to insulation and type of structure. '---' It was questioned whether there would have to be two separate wells and two septic systems. Chairperson Bosell stated there would more than likely have to be two wells and they have to be served by sanitary sewer. Commissioner Johnson asked if multiples have to have separate utilities (gas, electric). Commissioner Kishel stated that they would have to be separate. Coromissioner Anstett was concerned about the parking area - would each unit be required to have a garage? It was noted that our ordinance specifies at least a single garage for a dwelling unit is required. It was the concensus of the Coromission that the Building Inspector should be present at the next meeting to answer questions and to explain the difference in the building code between rental duplexes and condominiums. This will be continued to October 14, 1980. Comprehensive Plan Inserts from N.W. Associated Consultants Changes that are shown on the inserts are: The SAC line has been changed to its proper location; the CAB Interceptor line and Coon Rapids Interceptor line have been changed; page 108 makes some coroments regarding the municipal water system; page 128 contains more specific language regarding the water system. MOTION by Anstett, seconded provided by N.W. Associated Plan. by Lobb to forward to the City Council the amendments as Consultants for incorporation into the City's Comprehensive Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on October 2, 1980. MOTION by Johnson, seconded by Apel to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, LL"D~ Vicki Volk/Recording Clerk ..- -, "__.-# l