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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarch 25, 1980 o 0 e<<, 01 ANDOVER o ~ (J- 1685 Crosstown Blvd, NW, . Anoka, Minnesota 55303 . (612) 755-5100 o ANDOVER PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 25, 1980 7 : 30 P. M. Call to order Approval of minutes 1. Comm. 118-79-1 2. Conm. 111-80-1 3. Comm. 111-80-2 4. Comm. 112-80-4 5. Comm. 113-80-3 6. Comm. 111-80-7 ..... '--' Good Ridge Acres Preliminary Plat Continued Public Hearing Waiver of Esther Olson Re-Plat of Preliminary Plat Andover West Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Leslie Johanson Lot Split Public Hearing Gary Reuss Variance Ordinance 1110 Amendment C:J 0 ~ ~ ANDOVER o 0 1685 Crosstown Blvd, NW, . Anoka, Minnesota 55303 . (612) 755-5100 ,- -... REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 25, 1980 \......- MINUTES The Regularly Scheduled Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell on Tuesday, March 25, 1980 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Anoka, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Maynard Apel, Larry Retzlaff, Ralph Kishel, George Lobb Pat Anstett,O ~r~:1rtO Commissioners Absent: Walter Dick Also Present: Dave Pillatzke, T.K.D.A.; Leslie Johanson; Derril Burger; Bob Rohlin; interested residents APPROVAL OF MINUTES February 28, 1980 Change the word "stuff" to "land" and add "it" after below on page 6, second para- graph. MOTION by Lobb, seconded by Anstett to approve the minutes of February 28, 1980 as corrected. Motion carried on a 3 yes (Bosell, Anstett, Lobb), 3 present (Apel, Retzlaff, Kishel) vote. March 11, 1980 MOTION by Retzlaff, seconded by Anstett to approve the minutes of March 11, 1980 as written. Motion carried on a 3 yes (Bosell, Retzlaff, Anstett), 3 present (Apel, Kishel, Lobb) vote. At this time Chairperson Bosell introduced Maynard Apel, who will be filling the unexpired term of Byron Copley, Chairperson Bosell also commented that a letter of resignation had been received from Conmissioner Walter Dick. Chairperson Bosel1 mentioned that the City Council will hold a special meeting on April 24, 1980 at 7:30 P.M. at the City Hall to discuss the proposed rezoning of the Urban Service Area. The Planning and Zoning Commissioners are invited to attend. GOOD RIDGE ACRES PRELIMINARY PLAT CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. 118-79-1) At the request of the developers, this item will be continued to April 8, 1980. WAIVER OF ESTHER OLSON RE-PLAT OF PRELIMINARY PLAT (COMM. 111-80...1) Mrs. Olson requested that this item be continued to April 8, 1980. /--~ ORDINANCE 1110 AMENDMENT (COMM. 111-80-7) ~ Commissioner Kishel questioned the language in Section 8.04 (j), as to why it reads "to scale" the number of linear road miles. Planning and zor~ March 25, 1980 Page 2 Corr' "sion Meeting '-./ o o 1'\ \J Commissioner Retzlaff suggested it be changed to read, 'The de~elo~~L sha1!-show the~r number of linear road miles within the plat." pr~ c...,>Jo-r'l tlL..... 4->1\_Il-<--&--> '/ . y -<( 0 Regarding Section 8.03 (i) Conmissioner Kishel asked whether we want the road easements dedicated at the time of platting. Chairperson Bosell felt that the word "tentative" in the first sentence should be eliminated, The commission was in favor of changing the second sentence to read, "Such future sub- division shall include;proposed lots, road easements for cross streets, utility easements, and other such data as required for future subdivisions." This will be retyped and placed on the April 8, 1980 agenda. ANDOVER WEST PRELIMINARY PLAT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. 111-80-2) Chairperson Bosell opened the public hearing and explained the procedure for public hearings, Dave Pillatzke, T.K.D.A. - reviewed Mark Schumacher's letter of March 17, 1980 regarding this plat. The items mentioned in the letter were: 1) Lots 3 and 11, Block 6, and Lot IS, Block 7 are greater than 2.5 times the size of the average lot; 2) Lots 3 and 4 of Block 6 have less than 300' of road frontage; 3) Block length of the following streets exceeds the 1320' ordinance requirement - l53rd Avenue, CSAH 119 to Fox Street; l52nd Avenue, CSAH 119 to Fox Street; l5lst Avenue, CSAH 119 to Fox Street; Eldorado Street, l5lst to l53rd; 4) A temporary turnaround should be shown on the preliminary plat at the east end of l5lst Avenue; 5) Existing zoning of the site should be shown; 6) Curve data for the streets should be provided; 7) There is no park dedication; S) l53rd Circle and Inca Circle exceed the 500' length requirements; 9) Drainage calculations should be provided to show that runoff off the plat will not exceed the present rate for the 100 year storm. Calcu- lations for each pond should also be submitted so the drainage easements can be shown to the 100 year flood elevation; 10) The following alignment changes are recommended to improve the flow and street circulation within the plat, and to provide adequate connection to adjacent future development: a) Cree Circle and 153rd Circle should be connected; b) l53rd Avenue should be brought up to meet 153rd Circle.; c) Hopi Street should be brought over to align with Inca Circle to the north; d) Eldorado Street should align with Dakotah Street or Fox Street to provide continuity and eliminate an excessive number of street jogs along l55th Avenue; e) A street along the east line of Lot 8, Block 11 from l5lst Avenue to the south should be shown as a future connection with Blackfoot Street in Lund's Round Lake Estates; g) l52nd Avenue should be shown from Eldorado Street to the east line of the plat between Lots 19 and 20 of Block 7 as a second access point for platting to the east; h) 155th Avenue should be extended to the east line of the plat for future connection to l55th in Lake Ridge; 12) The proposed resubdivision plan should show l52nd Avenue through Block 9; 13) 100' vertical curves should be shown at all points of vertical intersection; 14) The revised city street standards show a ditch of variable depth as required to provide drainage and paving is required; 15) A letter from NSP and the County Engineer should be provided with their comments. A letter from Northern Natural Gas approving the development has been received; 16) Culvert elevations should reflect a minimum of 1 foot of cover. Chairperson Bosell commented that the City Public Works Department and the Fire Department want as many through streets as possible or proper traffic flow on new plats. Mr. Burger was asked whether he had come up with any changes. c=) Bob Roh1in, Meyer-Rohlin, Engineers - Stated that they would be able to get a road through Lots 3 and 4 of Block 11 to line up with Guarani Street in Lund's Round Lake Estates. They can dedicate a half street that would line up with l49th. Lot 3, Block 6 and Lot 15, Block 7 are oversized because they contain a lot of low land that is unbuildable. l53rd Circle and Cree Circle can be connected. E1dorado Street and Dakotah Street could 'not be Planning and zo~ March 25, 1980 Page 3 " . . car~s~on Meet~ng o o lined up because the lots would not meet the requirements. o Chairperson Bosel1 asked if Lot 15, Block 7 was going to be used for a ponding area. Mr. Burger said that it wasn't. They didn't want to make Lot 15 smaller because they didn't want to have the pond on 2 sites rather than one. Dave Pillatzke - pointed out that Lot 14, Block 7 has 210' of frontage adjacent to the cul-de-sac. This needs to include the tangent line. Gordon Engels, 13120 Kerry, Coon Rapids - owns property south of the plat. Has no objections to the plat Mr. Burger is proposing. However, he would like to see a street come down next to his property and run over to the east. The way the roads are shown on the plat now, he is going to end up with a 5 acre parcel that he can't do anything with. Mr. Engels and Paul Henry each own a 5 acre parcel and they suggested that Mr. Burger move the road over to the 40 line which would give these parcels the road frontage they would need to split their property into 2~ acre parcels. Mr. Engels - when Mr. Burger develops this property, he would like to see the road extended down to l49th. He and the other property owners would be willing to pay their share of the costs. Dennis Seelen, 4680 - l47th Lane N.W. - Stated that his concerns are essentially the same as Mr. Engels. However, if the road went through Mr. Engels' property and Mr. Henry's property, he would be left with a 5 acre lot he could't develop. He would be willing to have the road come through his property and he would pay for the cost of the road. Chairperson Bosell pointed out to the audience that if this road is constructed it has to be blacktopped. J. Lieberg, Route 1, Rogers, MN - owns a 5 acre parcel south of the plat and also one north of the plat. Stated that the parcel south of the plat would be hard to develop without some kind of access to it. He would not like to have a 5 acre lot when sewer comes through. Chairperson Bosell said the City Council has reconmended that Lund's Round Lake Estates and Johnson's Oakmount Terrace be served from the Coon Rapids Interceptor rather than the CAB Interceptor. Mr. Burger's 40 acres which he is platting at the present time has been excluded from the Urban Service Area. Mr. Lieberg - owns part of the exception in the north part of the plat. He would like to split his 5 acres into 2~ acre lots. If he does, this, only one parcel would have access. Gary Sanford, 3970 - l57th Avenue N.W. - has a natural tree line right on the 40 line and one in front of his property. In order to do anything with his property, the tree line would have to be destroyed. Felt some consideration should be given his property because he is already living there and he feels that a road should be constructed along side of his property. Chairperson Bosell explained that the northern part of the plat is not going to be developed at this time. Mr. Burger was required to file the entire preliminary plat, but is only developing 40 acres in the south. ~ Paul Henry, 4310 - l4lst Avenue - asked if the marked up plat was a suggestion of the developer and the Conmission. Chairperson Bosell stated it was done by her and Mark Schumacher of T.K.D.A. He also wanted to know the possibility of a group of individuals or a single individual of getting a variance. planning and zo(~) March 25, 1980 , Page 4 C r,. M . on'-.)S10n eet1ng -, ( / - o Chairperson Bosell explained that we have a lot split ordinance which says you have to ,.-) meet the requirements. The ordinance requires that when someone is developing a piece ~I of property he cannot render a piece of property landlocked. Mr. Burger is not obligated to give Mr. Henry any more access. Jim Heien, 14947 - 7th Avenue - was concerned about having a road put in. He doesn't want one as it would then make his property a corner lot. Don Ahlberg, 17538 Blackfoot - Owns property west of Lot 11, Block 6 which contains a drainage pond. Asked if this pond would be the primary receiver of water from both the north and south. His property consists of a lot of marshy land and he wouldn't mind having more water there. Chairperson Bosell explained that Mr. Burger is not allowed to increase or decrease the water flow if it is a natural drainage path. Derril Burger - Sympathizes with the problems of the public. He doesn't know how he is going to be able to help all of the people. He feels the roads in the south will go where they are shown on the plat. Mr. Burger asked the Commission how they would feel about the plat with the changes. Commissioner Retzlaff stated that with the changes he would be happy with the plat. Chairperson Bosell commented that the Park Commission has recommended that on the first phase of the development they would like cash in lieu of land. On future development of this plat, they would like a park adjacent to the Lake Ridge park. MOTION by Retzlaff, seconded by Lobb to continue the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. This item will be continued to April 8, 1980. (A recess was taken from 9:20 - 9:34). (The Engineer was excused at this time.) LESLIE JOHANSON LOT SPLIT (COMM. 112-80-4) Chairperson Bosell opened the public hearing. Leslie Johanson, 15451 Prairie Road N.W. - she would like to split her property and add the back parcel to her mother's property. The second 3~ acres. back lot. drawing Mrs. Johanson submitted would make one lot l~ acres and the other lot The reason she drew it as such was so that she could sell the barn with the Commissioner Retzlaff stated that with the lot split drawn the way it is, the Commission could not grant the lot split. It was suggested that if Mrs. Johanson did not want the barn on her property, she should advertise it for sale. That would solve her problem with the barn. It was decided by Mrs. Johanson that she would go with her original drawing which would give her the required amount of land for a lot split. /-) ~_ MOTION by Retzlaff, seconded by Kishel that the Andover planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a lot split for Leslie Johanson at 15451 Prairie Road N.W. Said lot split would create a lot with dimensions of 335 feet along Prairie Road with a depth of 325.08 feet. It would also create a lot 335 feet deep by 325.07 feet behind the lot on Prairie Road. This second lot would be required to be combined with the . Planning and zor0 March 25, 1980 Page 5 C ". M . on IS10n eet1ng \.......; -'\ ( I ,-, o 1"0 Co ro.<-<\<:. ",,,, "- I-...-r --, property owned by Dorthea Raiche (Parcel 113700). This lot split should be granted for ~) the following reasons: 1) that all the necessary provisions of the lot split ordinance have been complied with; 2) that the Conmission finds that this lot split is in conformance with the City's Comprehensive Development Plan; 3) the Commission finds that this does not interfere with the orderly planning and is not contrary to the public interest. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on April 15, 1980. GARY REUSS VARIANCE (COMM. 113-80-3) Mr. Reuss was not in attendance. Dave Almgren, City Building Official - explained to the Commission that the front of Mr. Reuss's house will be facing the side lot line. Mr. Almgren maintains that it should face the front lot line. Anything within a 45 degree angle one way or the other would constitute front. Anything more than that would change the front lot line. Mr. Reuss wants to make use of the most solar he can. With the design of the home he wants to build, he doesn't have any alternatives. Mr. Almgren would recommend approval of the variance. This will be continued to April 8. Chairperson Bosell stated that the Commissioners should look at the possibility of amending Ordinance 8, Section 5.02. This will be on the April 8 agenda. MOTION by Lobb, Seconded by Kishel to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 10:08 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ,u-J:to Vicki Vo1k Commission Clerk .,# "') \.. . J