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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 28, 1980 o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o 0 1685 Crosstown Blvd, N.w, . Anoka, Minnesota 55303 . (612) 755-5100 r~ REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 28, 1980 7:30 P.M. "- Call to order Approval of minutes 1. 2. Com. 112-80-1 3. 4. 5. Comm. 1t2-80-2 6. Comm. 1f1-80-8 7. Comm. 1f1-80-6 8. Comm. 1F1-80-7 9. 10. Publish 2/22/80 ...--... '--.... ..Midwest--Planning/-Hous.ing-rtmr- ~ L. e...f.lC- Chris Canfield Lot Split Esther Olson Re-Plat Continued Public Hearing/Rezoning Urban Service Area Junkyard Ordinance Amendment Surface Use Zoning/Lakes Ordinance 8 Amendment Ordinance 10 Amendment Proposed L-I Rezoning HUD Flood Map , 0 () ~ 01 ANDOVER (J 0 1685 Crosstown Blvd, N.w, . Anoka, Minnesota 55303 . (612) 755-5100 /~ -... REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 28, 1980 G P? ,<t,,...,,-..I MINUTES z'/r,;fo.;,l::;~-fO The regularly scheduled meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:35 P.M. by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell on Thursday, February 28, 1980 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Anoka, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: George Lobb, Byron Copley, Pat Anstett Commissioners Absent: Walter Dick, Ralph Kishel, Larry Retzlaff Also Present: Mark Schumacher, T.K.D.A.; Jim Meriaa, Merila-Hanson, Inc.; Lee ECklund, Monite Glue Company; Jim Canfield; Esther Olson; interested residents. Approval of Minutes February 12, 1980 - Page 6, Commissioner Lobb's comment should be changed to read, "they already have 2 garages." Page 1, the word throught should be changed to thought. MOTION by Copley, seconded by Lobb that the minutes of February 12, 1980 be approved as corrected. Motion carried on a 3 yes, 1 present (Anstett) vote. February 19, 1980 - MOTION by Lobb, seconded by Bosell that the minutes of February 19, 1980 be approved as written. Motion carried on a 2 yes, 2 present (Copley, Anstett) vote. Chairperson Bosell stated the first item on the agenda is a discussion with Midwest Planning regarding the Housing Plan. This item will be rescheduled for a Special Meeting on March 4, 1980 at 7:30 P.M. At that time, Dave Licht from Midwest Planning will be present to go over the Housing Plan with the Commission. Commissioner Lobb will be unable to attend the Special Meeting. Chris Canfield Lot Split (Comm. #2-80-1) Jim Canfield, 5944 - 83rd Parkway, Brooklyn Center - explained that he and his wife would like to split their property into two parcels so that they can sell the tract known as Tract B to a Mr. Peters. They have already received approval from the City Council for a road that will service both properties. The property acrea each. frontage. cannot be divided by metes and bounds because the lots would not be 5 A variance will be required because Tract B does not have 300 feet of Mark Schumacher was asked if there was any way the 300 feet could be found so that a variance would not be required. It could be done by making the cul-de-sac longer, however in the past, the Commission has approved variances in cases like this instead of making longer cul-de-sacs. :J Commissioner Lobb questioned whether the 33 foot easement extends all the way to the south of both parcels. Mr. Canfield said the easement does go all the way and it is shown on the Surveyor's Certificate included with Ms. Canfield's road location file. Planning and z~g Corr~sion Meeting February 28, 19~0 Page 2 (J o o MOTION by Copley, seconded by Lobb that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council that the Christine Canfield request for a lot split be granted with a variance on the second lot due to the fact that it does not have 300 feet of frontage on the road. There is an easement that will continue southward along Tract B for a future road which would then give them more than the 300 feet required. This is orderly planning and would be the best use of the land; it does not adversely affect the health, safety and welfare of the residents of the City of Andover and there was no opposition to the lot split. Motion carried on a 4-0 vote. This will go to the City Council on March 18, 1980. Discussion: Commissioner Copley stated that this lot split is subject to the approval of the road by the engineer. Also mentioned was that a building permit cannot be issued until the road is completed. Esther Olson Re-Plat Esther Olson, 15450 Nightingale Street N.W. - would is just short of 9 acres into 3 lots instead of 2. each and the westerly lot would be a little larger. like to re-plat the property that The first two lots would be 2"2 acres ~ Lot A fronts on Nightingale Street and has the required road frontage, Lot Bfwould have 376 feet of road frontage on l54th Lane and Lot C would have 435 feet. This meets the criteria as far as road frontage. Mrs. Olson was advised to return with a preliminary plat. She was surveyor can use a lot of the information from the original plat. to give a copy of Ordinance 10 to the surveyor so that he is aware re-platting. advised that her She was also advised of the criteria for Rezoning/Urban Service Area Chairperson Bosell reopened the Public Hearing. She commented that the Mayor had asked the Engineer (T.K.D.A.) to calculate the amount of area we are proposing to take out of the Urban Service Area to see how much area should be in the proposed extension of the Urban Service Area on the east side of the city. The Commission questioned whether the City Council had ordered a feasibility study for the area south of Woodland Terrace. Mark Schumacher explained that a feasibility study would be done to include Chapman's Additions, Woodland Terrace, Quickstrom Addition, and the property that Good Value owns. These areas would be served by the CAB interceptor. Chairperson Bosell explained that Draft Proposal #2 is a product of a work session the City Council and the Planning and Zoning Commission had on Monday, February 25, 1980. Proposal #1 was a product of a Special Planning and Zoning meeting which was attended by Commissioners Lobb and Retzlaff and Chairperson Bosell. The City Council was not comfortable with the classification of PUD on Proposal #1. They suggested that it should be C-PUD, which would refer to Commercial and M-PUD, which would refer to multiples or high density. The Landfill is proposed to be rezoned as some kind of recreational land. Discussion was on how long they would be in operation. It was decided to ask them when they appear before the Commission with their Special Use Permit. o The property in Section 35 next to Watt's Garden Acres marked Bunker Lake Park actually is not a park. The county acquired this land through tax forfeiture and planted pine trees in that area; therefore, it could be classified as a county forest. Planning and Z" 'ng COIrOsion Meeting February 28, l\uJ Page 3 (J o Jim Merila, Merila-Hanson, Inc. - representing Monite Glue Company, owners of 138 acres west of the railroad tracks and south of Andover Boulevard. Asked if the Commission was considering Proposal #1 or Proposal #2. Mr. Merila also wanted to know if the entire c=) City Council was in favor of rezoning the land ne is representing to Industrial. Chairperson Bosell explained that the person owning the property east of the Railroad Tracks and South of Andover Boulevard would like his property zoned industrial; the Railroad has requested their property be rezoned to Industrial; and Mr. Vosika, who owns property south of the 138 acres wants his property rezoned to Industrial. Commissioner Anstett asked if the Commission would still be interested in adding this area to the Urban Service Area if it is not rezoned industrial. Mark Schumacher explained that they would because of the possible elimination of Lund's Round Lake Estates, Dostaler-Hane Addition, Meadowood and Derril Burger's property from the Urban Service Area. Mr. Merila - asked if the residents of Lund's Round Lake Estates were in favor of being taken out of the Urban Service Area. It was mentioned that the people there had not responded one way or the other. At the City Council meeting it was mentioned that because those lots in Lund's Round Lake Estates were 2~ acres, it would not be feasible to run the sewer through there; Dostaler-Hane Addition is zoned R-2 and the intent of one acre lots is no sewer. This development was intended not to have sewer, the roads are permanent and if sewer ever did go through there, the CAB Interceptor would pick it up rather than the Coon Rapids Interceptor. It would be better to move the MUSA line over to where the Coon Rapids Interceptor would pick it up. Mr. Merila - is opposed to that area being rezoned to industrial. The area north of Coon Creek is an area that ties in with existing single family development. This parcel then serves as a logical filling in for residential development. As far as industrial going in there, he feels it's an encroachment on the properties zoned residential that are already there. Discussion then centered around the number of mentioned that in the summer there are 7 or 8 in the winter there are 7-10 trains per day. abu~ting the tracks in the city. trains going through Andover. It was trains per day running through Andover and There are approximately 11 miles of area Lee Ecklund, Monite Glue Company - stated that the way the railroads are going now, perhaps in 10-15 years, it's questionable whether or not there would be any railroad going through Andover. The railroad siding is on the wrong side of the tracks for the property they are developing. This area is also not good for the trucking industry because of the distance from the Cities. Commissioner Copley stated that industry in south Minneapolis is short of workers, whereas if the industries were in this part of the city, there would be an abundance of workers. It was also mentioned that the Anoka County Airport is becoming more cargo oriented. Also, most of the trucking terminals are in the northern suburbs. Chairperson Bosell said we have to look at industry in Andover for tax purposes. John Scherer, 1560 Andover He thought we were supposed said is pure speculation". mile from his house, nor is Commission was spending too Boulevard - Was confused as to what we are talking about. to be talking rezoning this area to R-4. '~uch of what's been He is not enthusiastic about having an Industrial Park a half he interested in having 2~ acre parcels. He felt the much time on one parcel of land and they should move on. o Jim Merila - commented that if we take residential property out of the Urban Service Area it should be replaced by residential property, not industrial. Planning and ~ng ccm~sion Meeting February 28, 1\00 Page 4 o o Mark Schumacher explained that we are adding more land than we're taking out. o Chairperson Bosell said the City Council would like the area east of the railroad tracks beyond the Industrial Study Area and up to the dotted line on Proposal #2 to be some type of residential zoning. They also felt that this dotted line would not be the extent of the sewer system. This property is highly wooded and should be R-2 as it, along with the creek, would act as a buffer to anything to the west. Mr. Ecklund stated that they have been talking with us since October and he is tired of waiting for a decision. Chairperson Bosell commented that the City Council wants a recommendation now. Mr. Ecklund feels the property in the Industrial Study Area is desirable as a development into 2~ acre lots. They have been very patient with us and have been working with us. They are not a fly-by-night outfit and want to devclop something that will be an asset to the community. (Recess taken at this time from 10:00 to 10:10) Taking the map showing Proposal #2, the Commission started with the west side of the city. Johnson's Oakmount Terrace is already zoned R-4 and should remain so. South of Johnson's Oakmount Terrace and north of l4lst Avenue is a parcel of approximately 10 acres zoned Neighborhood Business that should be changed to R-4. The parcel next to the Neighborhood Business parcel is zoned M-2. This should also be rezoned to R-4. The property next to Johnson's Oakmount Terrace is now zoned R-5. This should be rezoned to R-4. It will revert back to R-5 at such time as water and sewer become available. Moving to the east, there is no reason that the property west of Round Lake Boulevard should not be R-4. Rosella Sonsteby and Good Value would like to have it R-4. Going east of Round Lake Boulevard, the Shopping Center area (10 acres) marked on Proposal #2 going east along Bunker Lake Boulevard is currently not zoned Shopping Center. This rezoning has not been applied for by Mr. Rademacher but that doesn't mean that Planning and Zoning cannot change it to Shopping Center. Chapman's Fifth Addition is presently zoned R-l. This should be R-4. Going south of Chapman's, are Weiss' Addition and Weiss' Second Addition. This is zoned R-4 when in fact multiples are there. This will be changed to PUD to correspond to Woodland Terrace. Woodland Terrace is zoned PUD and R-4. This should be R-PUD to signify residential PUD. Commissioner Lobb objected to the agricultural area in the Urban area. He feels that agricultural land should be in the rural area, not the urban. o The R-3 district that is shown on the map is consistent with what's already there. Northwoods Addition is already zoned R-4. Planning February Page 5 O /',\ and' ng Con~sion Meeting 28, 1980 o o On Crosstown Boulevard north of l38th Avenue there are two lots that front on Crosstown which are currently zoned R-4 along with the lots east of them. These should be changed to multiple as that is what's there. o The City Council wants to see the land west of Shady Knoll and north of the agricultural land rezoned to R-4. Most of this land falls into the 100 year flood plain, and the soils do not make it feasible to build any new roads off of Coon Creek Drive. The landfill should be zoned General Recreational. The R-3 area south and east of Lund's Evergreen Estates should be left as is. Hartfiel's Estates should go to R-4. Watt's Garden Acres and Heidelberger's property should be zoned General Industrial instead of General Business. The Commercial PUD is the '''I" shaped part on the map. It was extended down Bunker Lake Boulevard to act as a buffer from what was thought to be Bunker Lake Park. Now that it is known that it is not a park, the line for C-PUD could be brought straight down to form an ''L" shape. The additional part could then be zoned Industrial. Discussion was on whether or not Lund's Evergreen Estates should all be in the Urban Service Area or all of it taken out. The people who have bought lots there have been told they can subdivide when sewer comes through. The Commission has received no direction from the City Council on this, so it will be left as R-l. Mr. Merila questioned Whether the new rezonings would be reflected in our new Comprehensive ' Plan. He was told that they would be. Taking the Industrial Study Area, Chairperson Bosell felt that it should be Limited Industrial. Commissioner Lobb felt that if it's going to be LI it should be brought down to Bunker Lake Boulevard. Commissioner Copley felt that the area south of Coon Creek, North of Bunker and west of the railroad tracks should be Limited Industrial. Going East, R-2 should be outside of that. Going north on the same side of the railroad tracks, do the same as what's below that. North of Coon Creek and west of the railroad tracks should be left R-l. Commissioner Anstett felt that south of Coon Creek, east of the railroad tracks is all prime residential area. Commissioner Copley felt it should be Limited Industrial because of the request of a landowner north of there to have his property rezoned Industrial. Since the Commission was divided as to how they would like to have the Industrial Study Area zoned, it was decided that for the record each Commissioner would give his/her ideas on what they would like to see done. Everyone agreed that the property south of Coon Creek and West of the railroad tracks should be Limited Industrial. ,'~) '-~ Commissioner Copley is in favor of having the east side of the arbitrarily drawn line zoned R-2 and West of that zoned Limited Industrial. Commissioner Anstett objected to the Limited Industrial as she felt it is good residential property. Planning and L:')ng car~sion Meeting February 28, l~oO Page 6 o o , " '-/ Commissioner Copley's reasons for what he wants done is that we do have potential. We also have a buffer, the trees are questionable because they're all oaks and we don't knowhow long they will live. He doesn't feel it should continue Limited Industrial all the way across because there is a place for residential along Prairie Road, and there is more road access provided for the Industrial from Bunker Lake Boulevard. He also felt, with the Industrial Study Area, with what we know is before us, it is a corner and sewer may have to pass that and it's a problem we have to face. Barnes Rolling Oaks is just to the north and east of there and they're all 2~ acre lots. This corner could become 2~ acre lots and be compatible with Barnes Rolling Oaks. He would like to see it go R-l. Commissioner Lobb stated that he feels it should be R-2 or R-3, preferably R-2 because (J v1 of the industrial ~ below and the R-2 on the other side of it. (1/)ilft' i\ ,L.., oJ II l/ / rtv ",'~' Commissioner Anstett would be in favor of either R-l or R-2. !J rj Chairperson Bosell stated that part of the proposal is to include this in the Urban Service Area. If we are changing it to anything other than a sewered lot size, we are defeating the prupose of adding it to the Urban Service Area. Commissioner Anstett feels it doesn't belong in the MUSA and it should stay R-l. Commissioner Lobb feels the MUSA line should go at least to the railroad tracks. Chairperson Bosell agrees basically with the way the map was drawn, Proposal #2, with the exception of the "T" shaped area. To change that area that would be known as Rolling Creek Trails to anything other than R-4 or Industrial would defeat the whole purpose of the study area. It is not orderly planning for the city and with Hanson Boulevard being extended, it looks like an area that should be used for other than residential. MOTION by Copley, seconded by Anstett that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council that they approve rezoning proposal draft #2 with the comments as noted from the minutes of the Commission members during the discussion. The Commission is in unanimous agreement on the area within the Urban Service Area and divided on the area outside of the MUSA. The Commission is in disagreement as noted in the minutes as to the use and lines of the MUSA outside of the proposed MUSA. They feel that the rezoning is necessary for orderly planning for the future of the City of Andover and it should not adversely affect the health, safety and welfare of the residents of the City of Andover. The Commission has received and reviewed a feasibility study prepared by T.K.D.A. A public hearing was held; there was opposition to some of the proposed rezoning and there was support to the proposed rezoning. The Commission is basically 3-1 against rezoning the Industrial Study Area as Industrial (2 are for R-l; 1 is for R-2 or R-3; 1 is for R-4 or Industrial). Motion carried on a 4-0 vote. This will go to the City Council on March 18, 1980. Harold Clark, C & F Properties This was not a published item, but was discussed briefly. Mr. Clark has property south of the Hughes Industrial Park that he would like to plat into an industrial area. The property is presently zoned industrial. He would like to divide it into one-half acre lots and put individual buildings on each parcel. The Commission felt he should come in with an Industrial PUD type of development. (-j '"-- This item will be continued on March 11, 1980. , ':"" } '-.;' r---''l , j ,- Planning February Page 7 r- and Z, pg cor.Osion Meeting 28, 191$0 () o Junkyard Ordinance Amendment This item will be continued to March 11, 1980. Surface Use Zoning/Lakes The City Council has requested that we do nothing on Crooked Lake at this time. The Park Commission would like the Commission to deal with the size of motors on Round Lake and also consider the use of the lake for hunting. This item will be tabled until the Commission receiveS direction from the City Council. Ordinance #8 Amendment This item will be continued to March 11, 1980. Ordinance #10 Amendment This item will be continued to March 11, 1980. HUD Flood Map Mark Schumacher would like to discuss this at some length; therefore, it will be continued to the March 4th Special Meeting. MOTION by Anstett, seconded by Lobb that the meeting be adjourned. Motion carried unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 11:52 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Vicki Volk Commission Clerk