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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJanuary 22, 1980 o 0 ~ 0& ANDOVER o 0 1685 Crosstown Blvd. NW. . Anoka, Minnesota 55303 . (612) 755-5100 {-- ~ REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING JANUARY 22, 1980 7: 30 P M. Call to order Approval of Minutes 1. Comm. #8-79-1 Glen Geving Sketch Plan 2. Comm. #10-80-1 Esther Olson Lot Split 3. Comm. #1-80-2 Derrill Burger Sketch Plan 4. Research/Surface Zoning & Amend Ordinance 12 5. Housing Plan Discussion Publish 1/1 /80 ~ , ',----, o 0 ~ DI ANDOVER o 0 1685 Crosstown Blvd. NW. . Anoka, Minnesota 55303 . (612) 755-5100 ," '---" REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMrSSION HEEI'ING JANUARY 22, 1980 MINUTES The Regular Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order at 7:30 p.m., by Chairperson dlArcy Bosell on January 22, 1980, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Anoka, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Byron Copley, Ralph Kishel, Larry Retzlaff, George and Walter Dick /J. i f./ Lobb ,.(1 i4.ylt'./."~', ~.O )~ .... Mark Schumacher, TKDA; Glen Geving, Esther Olson and Derrill Burger Richard Okerlund Commissioners Absent: Also Present: c Approval of Minutes January 8, 1980: Page 3 under the Public Hearing on Ordinance 8, fifth line, the sentence that refers to "minimum requirements shall specify that single garages be attached". This sentence should be corrected to read, "minimu."ll requirements shall specify that there be single garages". Also under 6.02 the reference to the chart, this needs to be included. Page 2, the word Headowwood should have one "w" deleted. Page 3, Public Hearing on Ordinance 10, motion #4, the word deterrent should be changed to detrimental. MOTION by Kishel, Seconded by Dick, that the minutes of January 8, 1980 be approved as corrected. Vote on motion: 2 present (Copley, Retzlaff), 4 yes (Kishel, Lobb, Dick and Bosell) Glen Geving Sketch Plan (Comm. #8-79-1) Glen GeVing, 3451-175th Lane N.W. - introduced his new drawing and stated that the enclosed letter lwuld explain the power company easement. Mr. Geving said that the additions to the draWing are: one more lot, and changed the proposed road. Discussion: The Commission asked that I1r. Geving check out the easement between Swansons & ?embertons (what it is for and who it belongs to). The Commission also recommended that they try to shorten the length of the cul-de-sac. If this is not possible, Mr. Geving will have to ask for a variance. Chairperson Bosell suggested to ~~. Geving to go over Ordinance 10 step-by-step for the preliminary. ~~. Geving stated that his next step will be to bring in the preliminary plat. Esther Olson Lot Split (Comm. #10-80-1) Esther Olson, 15450 Nightengale Street N.W. - stated that her intent is to split the front lot and build a new home on one of the lots for herself. (The lots would each be less than 2 and a half acres) Mary Vanderlaan, 2120-154th Lane - stated that the City Council had approved the narrow lot of I1rs. Olson's back in 1974 but did not know the reasoning behind. it. She would like someone to check back on the records. Discussion: The Co~~ssion was not in favor of the lot split because it doesn't meet the land use district requirement, it does not meet the zoning district require- ment and it is in violation of the Comprehensive Plan to make less than 2 1/2 acre lots. r~ r-, "--- J o o o Plannir-'md Zon{\ Commission Meeting Januar.r~~, 1980~Minutes Page 2 (Esther Olson Lot Split cont'd.) Instead the Commission reco~~ended that I~s. Olson apply for a replat of Nightengale Second Addition. Make Tract A & Beach 2 1/2 acres and leave the rest of the property out of Lot 1 whatever is left. The Commission also noted that park land or a fee would be required. Chairperson Bosell recommended that I~s. Olson have her old survey drawing redrawn to show the proposed replat and then go over Ordinance 10 requirements. Mark Schumacher asked about the wetland and road drainage. (Is there an easement?) This matter will be left open until Mrs. Olson comes back with her next drawing and information. Derrill Burger Sketch Plan (Co~~. #1-80-2) Derrill Burger, 5925 Woodland Circle, Minnetonka - explained that he is presenting a sketch plan to develop 320 acres in the City of Andover bounded by 7th Avenue on the west, County Road 20 on the north. He states that 40 acres lies in the Urban Service District, which he has submitted a request for a variance from the moratorium on. Discussion: Chairperson Bosell questioned who owns the property where it says "location map"? Is 149th Avenue built so this land has access? Commissioner Retzlaff pointed out a number of block lengths and cul-de-sacs that do not meet the City ordinances. He stated that the maximum block length is 1320 feet and the cul-de-sac length is 500 feet. There is no park land on the drawing. (Burger stated that he has a letter from the Park Commission stating they do not want park land allocated on this property). Retzlaff said that the frontages on the lots were good. He also pointed out that the Commission could require walkways for every block over the maximum block length. Bosell said that the legend on the plan does include l~ater and swamps but notes on the plan that they are not shown. Gary Nanson (sp) from Mirolene Engineering and Land Survey (sp) - shovled a map with the wetland shown on it. He said that with the two and a half acre lot size, the block length of 1320 was kind of restrictive. Chairperson Bosell reminded Mr. Burger and l1r. Nanson that on the preliminary plat data, the number of miles of road should be included. Also roads are required to have the blacktop surface. ~~. Nanson stated that they had received approval from the Highway Department to have access to lots from the county road. Bosell said it is required to have a copy of that approval for the City. Bosell reco~~ended that the preliminary be brought in on a smaller scale. (One inch to 200). She also said that she would like to see roads line up with each other as much as possible. }furk Schumacher of TKDA pointed out some land~that is less than 870 on the Flood Plain map. He also pointed out that this are~~e dropped as flood plain. }ark felt that some of the lots were not suitable for building sites and needs more information to be convinced of this. He felt that Lot 12 is exceptionally large and needs to have something done with it. ~~rk also stated that the direction of the storm water needs to be shown. This matter will be left open until Mr. Burger is ready with the next drawing. (Recess taken at this time from 9:00 to 9:10 p.m.) o ~) ~.. Planni:-- end Zon:) Commission Heeting Januar1-::c, 1980'-/1-linutes Page 3 Research/Surface Zoning & Amend Ordinance 12 .' \ ~j: Chairperson Bosell stated that she has not received clarification on thia item from the Park Commission. She related that Dick Okerlund had talked to the DNR who said that they do not have any restrictions on Round Lake. The surface zoning is to apply to Crooked Lake too. Bosell reported that John Vadnais, Game Warden for Anoka, would be very much against changing the use of Round Lake. This item will be continued to the next meeting or until the Commission receives clarification from the Park Board. Housing Plan Discussion Commissioner Copley commented on the housing plan booklet. He felt that they addressed making bigger lots is going to decrease the demand for public services; on the other hand inflationary maintenance costs may become an overburden because of the distance to cover larger lots, was well stated. Copley would like to have them define "an overcrowded house". He ~'/Ould also like to know if they could update the values of homes. Page 21 - talking about 101'1 income housing; low income housing is not the answer if you do not have mass transit and Copley felt that this should be addressed. Chairperson Bosell said that she would contact Midwest and ask them to have someone come out to discuss this. Bosell reminded the commissioners of items coming up in the near future. Ordinance 8 _ specifically Section I, 11 and 0000 talking about junkyards and the fact that some of them allow open storage and some require closed storage. This will be on the next agenda. Ordinance 10 should be amended to require the developer to scale the number of miles on the plat. The junkyard ordinance is coming back to ~~ke some kind of requirement within a one to two year period that they become attractive places of business. Chairperson Bosell announced that Vicki will be the new Recording Clerk. MOTION by Copley, Seconded by Lobb to adjourn the meeting. Hotion carried unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m. ~ /~ &ry Kit . I Recording Clerk ,- -.... \ ) ~. _.J