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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 20, 1981 .' o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o PARK COMMISSION MEETING - AUGUST 20, 1981 MINUTES The Regularly Scheduled Meeting Chairman LeFebvre at 7:40 p.m., 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W. of the Andover Park Commission was called to order by Thursday, August 20, 1981, at the Andover City Hall, Commission Members Present: Commission Members Absent: Mand, Nichols, Rogers and Zillhardt Longbella and Wielgosz 1982 BUDGET Several questions were raised regarding the proposed 1982 budget. The Commission again reviewed the expenditures as of June 30, 1981. 10% was added to all items not discussed. Commission Salaries - remain the same. Staff Salaries - to be negotiated in an attempt to hire additional personnel. Diesel Fuel - questioned was whether or not $750 worth of diesel actually would be used in parks. No action taken. Maintenance Supplies - this item is already over budget for the first six months, raise to $2,000.00. Professional Services - raise to $5,000 due to the increase in services needed for the City Hall park site plan and another plan in the urban area. Electricity - over budget for the first six months, raise to $1500.00. Discussion involved the dollar amount charged against the park budget. The tennis courts are low users. The largest amount would be for the hockey rink lights and the electric heater in the warming house plus a few security lights. $731.00 for six months still seems unreasonably high considering the mild winter. Publications - questioned was the $136.00 figure. This was spent for large ads for park board members in the Shopper and Union. No action taken. Wes Mand stated there are park magazines, etc. and thought the members should obtain subscriptions as they could be very helpful. The Commission was informed only catalogs from equipment suppliers come in the mail. Glen Rogers advised he spends $200 a year in Coon Rapids for subscriptions to trade journals. Many park publications are free. He will supply the City with order forms. Vehicle Repair - raise to $750.00, this item is already-over the budget for the year. Equipment Repair - raise to $1,000.00 - over the budget for the year. Summer/Community School Program - Chairman LeFebvre stated he talked to Nancy Hagman after the last Council meeting. She suggested a meeting with Jim Stewart on a Monday or Wednesday at the district office. Wes commented these items are 25% of the budget - Glen stated if you deduct assessments (which he is totally opposed to coming out of general revenue) the figure is 33% to 40% of the total budget. Wes then remarked, if salaries were also deducted, the percentage would be even higher. Further discussion involved the possibility of the City Council establishing a separate fund for these two items and not be reflected in the park budget. Steve Nichols felt the entire program was nothing but a babysitter service. Wes explained it started out as a CETA program which grew more expensive as CETA was phased out. Glen stated Coon Rapids parks were developed before any thought was given to subsidizing the school district. Chairman LeFebvre suggested meeting with Jim Stewart and Nancy Hagman the second meeting of next month (Sept. 17) to discuss this subject and the O school's 6 year capital improvement program. Assessments - The assessment hearing for the southwest area is September 24. Parks involved are Quickstrom and Chapman's. This figure will be adjusted to apply to all applicable parks. It was assumed Good Value would pay the assessment on Page #2 - 8-20-81 Minutes- rJ '- u Capital Northglen. Wes then asked if this park had a water service. The tie book was checked. Shown is a 3/4" service for this parcel. He, Wes, stated this could only handle two garden hoses - this was unbelievable, ridiculous and a lack of foresight on the part of TKDA. Outlay - Jo Zillhardt questioned why no money had been budgeted for improvements and maintenance equipment. It was assumed everything was lumped under park equipment which covers the boat landing and "ours is not to question why". o SIX YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM The Commission was furnished with a list of parks, the majority of which had been deleted for various reasons. Chairman LeFebvre then went through this list, one at a time. Minor improvements to some could fall under unallocated. Specific comments were as follows: Boat Landing - $30,000 seemed sufficient. Suggested was, since fencing was not included in the grant, that this be bid out as an alternate in case the main bid comes in high. Chapman's;Woodland Terrace - Mr. Carlson is delaying this development for a few years due to the expense of improvements. Northwoods West - Steve Nichols stated posts and cable will have to be installed if there is going to be playground equipment in the parking lot. This would fall under unallocated. Northwoods East - Kids are still riding their bikes on the courts. Upon the advice of the local deputy, "No bicYCles allowed" signs have been ordered. He then can enforce Ord. #47, Sec. 2.8 and 2.11. Red Oaks West - Delete lA. Wes Mand advised the pond was there before the area was platted and that it was and always has been a natural drainage area. He, and the rest of the Commission, felt any dredging should come out of the storm sewer budget. If there is a potential problem of flooded basements, that should have been taken care of before the houses were built. Birch Ridge and Aztec parks should be deleted from the list. Barnes Rolling Oaks - seemed reasonable to create a free skating rink inihe low spot. Hawk Ridge - Shown was $10,000 for improvement, felt it should be higher. The yearly list was checked, the total shown there is $16,000. Pine Hills - Further improvement would be at minimal cost. Red School House - The Commission felt the old swing set should also be donated to the County Fair Board. Mr. Hammer has advised the outhouses are not necessary as the fairgrounds will be served by sanitary sewer soon. He will be out some time in October to look the school house over. The Commission agreed the priority years of 2 and 3 should be reversed. Not much emphasis was placed on years 5 and 6 as it was realized any plan would have to be updated to reflect any population trend. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ~)Wes inquired about the status of the block grant. things, this was continued to Monday, Sept. 24th, Council meeting. Chairman LeFebvre stated, among other and invited all members to attend this Page #3 - 8-20-81 Minutes l) () " ,BOAT LANDING \........1 Chairman LeFebvre stated Mr. Sloth called him at home about a fence to separate his property from the boat landing. He is claiming he has had a lot of vandalism problems. The Sheriff's Office will be contacted to see if many incidents have been reported to them. AUD. SUB. #82 Jo Zillhardt asked if something could be done about obtaining'_a park in her area. The past history of park vs. Rosella Sonsteby was explained to her. MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Rogers, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 9:40 p.m. ;~P~2;/b Rae Ellen Bakke Secretary ,- '\ ~ ) '- '