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PARK COMMISSION MEETING - MARCH 19, 1981
MINUTES
The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Park Commission was called to order by Chairman LeFebvre
at 7:35 p.m., Thursday, March 19, 1981, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W.
Commission Members Present:
Commission Members Absent:
Also Present:
Longbella, Mand and Nichols
Rogers
Dennis Hager and Daniel Beck, Green Acres Park
Art and Al Sloth - Boat Landing Project
Rosella Sonsteby - Rosella's Addition
GREEN ACRES PARK
Dennis Hager and Daniel Beck stated they would like Norway maples, green ash, compact amur
maples and Maney junipers placed on the north boundary of the park. These types were suggested
by a person who works for a landscaper. Based on 400 ft., the estimate came to $738.00 using
the old price list. The actual length is 362 ft. Discussed with the Sloths' was maintenance
of coniferous and deciduous trees. A1 Sloth advised maintenance was about equal, as was the
life span, 20-30 years. They also obtain their stock from Bailey's. Junipers are desired
because of their aesthetic value - they are green in the winter.
Mr. Beck and Mr.Hager said they would plant the trees and keep them watered. Spacing was then
discussed. The Sloths' advised 4 ft. apart would be the best. String or rope will be strung
the length of the park in the hope to curb vandalism and trespassing. Wes Mand expressed
concern over the spacing and suggested buckthorn bushes as was done in Northwoods since they
would fill in faster. Mr. Beck and Mr. Hager stated their selection would add color and were
willing to wai t .
Considerable time was spent discuss~ trunk diamters, pros and cons of different shrubs, etc.
It was decided to purchase 4 Norway maples, 3 frax green ash, 7 compact amur maples with Maney
junipers, 70 to 80, depending upon the price. The Public Works Department will be asked to
arrange for the delivery.
MOTION by Mand, seconded by Nichols to authorize the expense of up to $750.00 for trees and
shrubs for Green Acres Park. Motion carried unanimously.
Discussion: If some of the trees are out of stock, permission was obtained to order comparable
items.
Mr. Beck and Mr. Hager then asked about the backstop. Prices range from $525 to $1315.00. They
stated the $525.00 backstop without a hood would be sufficient. Freight will be extra.
MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Nichols, to authorize the purchase of a backstop, Model 341-301
from Miracle Recreation Co. at a cost not to exceed $600.00. Motion carried unanimously.
CROOKED LAKE BOAT LANDING
Art Sloth stated he was in favor of the boat landing project. He was on the park board when the
first parcel was purchased. He explained his request for a 6'-8' fence. His nursery is his
~vlihood and he cannot afford the anticipated vandalism to his stock. He has trouble with
~espassers now, in fact there have been more since Hellums' house was moved. A1 Sloth
commented that with the house gone, and no barrier, people think the nursery is part of the park.
Gary Longbella suggested a 5'-6' cyclone fence. Wes Mand advised the Sloths' of the maintenance
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and vandalism (graffiti) problems with a wood fence. He suggested a chain link fence with a
,A~nse hedge in front of it. Art Sloth stated he had never thought of vandalism to the stockade
~/pe fence. Although he preferred wood, a 6'-8' chain link fence would be acceptable. Al Sloth
felt a chain link fence would look out of place. It was generally agreed that the chain link
would be more expensive at the outset but cheaper in the long run due to durability. Also, a
4' fence would be too easy to climb over referencing the 500' on hand. Property lines were
then discussed. No one knew where they were - this area most likely will have to be resurveyed.
According to the plat map, the length is about 356 ft. It was agreed that, whatever is done,
the same need not apply to the Fredericksons'. The nursery was there before the park and is a
commercial business. The Fredericksons' built their house knowing the next parcel was a park
and is in a residential area. Wes Mand suggested contacting the park planner for. her input
and to table this item for the time being. This will be on a future agenda.
ROSELLA'S ADDITION
Chairman LeFebvre explained the City Council sent this back to parks last Tuesday night. Mrs.
Sonsteby presented them with another alternative, that being Lot 9, Block I, with another two
acres added on to the south, for a total of just under 3 1/2 acres. Mrs. Sonsteby then read a
statement in which she cited Johnson's Oakmount Terrace, among other things. She felt the City
had no right to demand parkland in her plat when cash was accepted in Johnson's. The contractor
was pulling out next week so she wanted a decision tonight. She believes she has been
discriminated against and that they, the City Council, have been arbitrary and capricious.
Wes Mand informed Mrs. Sonsteby that a great deal of time was spent on the Johnson plat. The
Commission considered land outside of the plat and that was turned down. Recommended were lots
abutting Dehn's Park, however, the Council chose to accept cash in lieu of land. lITs. Sonsteby
stated she felt she should have a chance to donate money - she has an attorney on this. Chairman
LeFebvre remarked that, if Johnson's was a mistake then, we still can't keep on justifying it.
Mrs. Sonsteby then stated she gave up 1200 ft. for a sewer easement for nothing, but she will
never sign a quit claim deed for the 29 ft. However, she was willing to donate Lot 9 plus the
acreage to the south which she claims had no standing water and was all high ground.
Wes Mand stated he had never seen this revised preliminary plat. Further, he and Chairman
LeFebvre walked this area. Bill was 10 ft. away and jumped and he, Wes, wiggled. If he took
a shovel, he could hit water in 5 minutes. The same water table exists in his area, Quickstroms.
The Minutes were then checked for the previous motions. Steve Nichols and Gary Longbella felt
the Commission should stick by the original motion. Chairman LeFebvre mentioned the idea was
to put parkland in the northern part to accommodate this development and Aud. Sub. #82. He
felt the residents in Sub. #82 would again be demanding land if Lot 9 was recommended and agreed
with Wes Mand that this area was low.
MOTION by Longbella, seconded by Nichols to recommend the City Council accept Lots I, 2, 3, 4
and most of 5, Block 2, in order to take full park dedication in Rosella's Addition Plat.
Discussion: Wes Mand stated this preliminary plat shows 3 single family lots, 22 two family
lotsor a total of 47 dwelling units on 14.6 acres. This calculates to 3.219 units per acre
which means the park dedication would be 12%. Mrs. Sonsteby strongly objected and reiterated
her earlier comments regarding the Johnson plat and the statement in the July 13, 1978 Minutes
regarding Lots 11 and 12 would be an undue financial hardship on the developer. Further, they
could build 59 houses in that plat. Wes Mand explained Lots 11 and 12 were recommended upon
/"~ request of Dehn's Addition residents as they had been playing ball in this area. The motion
',--,3 changed recommending the lots abutting Dehn' sPark. It was the City Council who made the
final decision of accepting cash in lieu of land. He also noted that the Johnson plat was
approved prior to the adoption of Ord. #lOD which places firmer guidelines on the subject of
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park dedication. Mrs. Sonsteby argued that by demanding parkland in her plat causes an undue
financial hardship due to the size and all the improvements, sewer, water and streets. She
. "'tated Lot 9 was a good high lot and there was nothing wrong with it. Wes Mand stated
'- ) was long and narrow, a back stop and a small ballfield would never fit. Steve Nichols
rrlentioned the 85' access. Mrs. Sonsteby said that was why she added on the two acres. Wes
Mand contended you could not get a tractor out there to mow. Mrs. Sonsteby stated there isn't
any water sitting there. Wes Mand said it wasn't a matter of standing water. He repeated that
he walked on that land last summer when it was dry, and if he stood 10 ft. away from Bill and
jumped on the ground, he could watch him wiggle. If you drove a tractor out there, and broke
through the turf cover, you would sink out of sight - just get mired down. Mrs. Sonsteby
stated trucks have been driven out there all the time when they were stealing wood. Wes Mand
felt they could only drive along the one edge. If the Commission was looking to take pieces
as a nature area, that would be one thing; but we are trying to provide parkland for a
neighborhood.
Chairman LeFebvre asked for a vote on the motion. Wes Mand stated he was in favor unless
something better was found. Lot 9 was unusable as far as parkland is concerned. He felt the
area would be a ponding area for storm water from the two 40's south and west of this.
He estimated 90 to 100 acres were draining into this area. Mrs. Sonsteby then asked that
Wes Mand's latest comments be placed in the Minutes. She said they never got any easement
from her and that there was going to be a law suit on that one too. Gary Longbella and
Steve Nichols were in favor of the original motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Mrs. Sonsteby stated the park board was just doing what the City Council wanted. She was told
this was not true, they disagreed with the original motion.
A question arose as to why this was on the agenda. The secretary stated the City Council, last
Tuesday, placed it on tonight's agenda. The Commission expressed some dissatisfaction over the
fact they had to deal with a revised preliminary plat with no prior background information.
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
Since unexpected items arise at regular meetings, the Commission agreed to meet next Thursday,
March 26th, to work on the capital improvement program.
MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Longbe11a, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted:
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