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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 5, 1981 , o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o PARK Ca~AISSION MEETING - FEBRUARY 5, 1981 MINUTES The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Park Commission was called to order by Chairman Mand at 7:40 p.m., Thursday, February 5, 1981, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W. Commission Members Present: Commission Members Absent: Also Present: LeFebvre, Longbella and Rogers Anderson and Nichols Lary Carlson, Oakwood Estates OAKWOOD ESTATES Mr. Carlson stated the only change in the plat will be 170th Lane will curve slightly to the north where it joins Co. Rd. 9. The reason for this is the property line of Lot 2, Block 1 is now in the center of the road. The plat is 34.6 acres and he requested the Commission recommend cash in lieu of land. He went on to explain the negotiations involved in purchasing the land from ~~. Harstad. An agreement was signed after they agreed on a purchase price of $1650.00 per acre. The total price was $57,570 plus $9,750 for the paperwork. All the engineering, surveying, etc. had been done up to the final plat stage. He felt the price was high as he just purchased 50 acres on Co. Rd. 9 for under $1,000 an acre. Mr. Carlson stated the area is mostly wooded but of poor quality. Chairman Mand suggested land on Lots 1 & 2, Block 5 although it wouldn't be quite large enough for playing fields. Mr. Carlson said those lots had the better trees on them and he would prefer to keep them as residential lots. Glen Rogers~felt a 3 1/2 acre park would be another nuisance. IAr. Carlson agreed adding people on 2 1/2~~ots could furnish their own swing sets and picnic areas. Being that far north, he felt it would be many years before any subdivision could take place, if ever. Mr. Carlson was then asked if any of the lots around White Oaks park were vacant. He stated no, the entire area was almost fully developed. Chairman Mand then advised Mr. Carlson the DNR has this area designated as a Class #3 wetland. This was not known at the time the money received from the Kadlec and Wobegon Woods was designated for the improvement of this park. In addition: to being a designated wetland, it is also a City ponding area. 1~. Carlson then mentioned the property he just purchased was across the road from Oakwood Estates and is a more open area if the Commission is looking for playing fields. He possibly would be willing to donate land when he plats this area. Chairman Mand asked Mr. Carlson if he knew who owned the 80 acres east of Wobegon and north of White Oaks. Mr. Carlson thought it belonged to a gentleman who lived in Illinois. (Russell Johnson, North Canton, Ohio) It is mostly open land with some pine trees - no buildings. Chairman Mand commented some time in the future it may be possible to purchase land in this area for playing fields. Noted was this area is close to Hawk Ridge. Mr. Carlson then offered $5800.00 cash in lieu of land on his plat. Gary Longbella and Bill LeFebvre felt this was the best alternative. Glen Rogers agreed, adding the park area would be too small and also there is no land available to tie into it making a larger park except c:=rSSiblY to the north. Mr. Carlson then informed the Commission he tried to purchase land from the property owner north of this plat when he platted White Oaks. His intention was to run 171st Ave. out to Page. #2 - "Minutes February 5, 1981 u u Co. Rd. 9. This person refused to sell his property. He doubted if this area would ever be platted because there is a 150' power line easement running across it. ~airman Mand then suggested taking one lot abutting Kadlec Addition and then purchasing a vacant lot from Mr. Kadlec. Mr. Carlson stated those lots were wooded if playing fields were what he had in mind. He thought the lots were selling for $15-17,000 each but offered to call Mr. Kadlec for verification. Further discussion involved the streets. Glen Rogers stated he definitely did not like to see the jog in Flora St. Mr. Carlson said this was done to obtain three lots instead of two (Lots 1, 2, & 3, Bl. 1) and that this jog meets City standards. Chairman Mand then asked the rest of the Commission if they wished to pursue the subject of buying a lot from Mr. Kadlec. Gary Longbella said he thought it would be too expensive. Also mentioned was the cost of clearing, leveling, ,etc. MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Longbella, to recommend the City Council accept cash in lieu of land in the amount of $5,800.00 on the Oakwood Estates plat. Motion carried unanimously. CROOKED LAKE BOAT LANDING Chairman Mand stated Terri Helmstetter has to redraw her plans due to a letter from the DNR regarding adequate room for free movement of vehicles with trailers. He asked that a copy of the joint powers agreement and a copy of a design guide for boat launch facilities be sent to her. Lary Carlson offered the use of his tree His spade is able to take trees up to 4" length of the tap root. spade and operator for one or two days, at no cost. in diameter. ~ cannot be relocated due to the OP/<5 Larry Winner, Public Works Director, was requested to determine if City staff had the time and equipment to develop this park or go out on bids. He is then to contact M~s. Helmstetter to let her know what is required for biddable plans and specs for this project. Mr. Sloth has requested,verbal1y and in writing, a 6-8' privacy fence to be placed at the edge of the boat landing property. He anticipates trespassers ruining his nursery stock in order to get to the park. Glen Rogers then told of the problems they had in Coon Rapids with fences separating parks from residential property. They no longer install fence for any reason. Also mentioned was if Mr. Sloth got his fence, the Fredericksons' would want a fence also. The Commission generally agreed that the existing fence should be moved and thorny bushes, such as Russian olive shrubs, be planted along the fence as soon as possible, although the secretary was asked to check into the price of stockade type fencing. CEDAR CREST PARK Chairman Mand mentioned he received a phone call inquiring what was planned for Cedar Crest park. He then showed the Commission the original and final drainage plans. The final plan shows the holding pond totally in the park. Glen Rogers stated they've created a sliding hill in the winter and turned the pond into a lake. There was no further discussion on this subject. MINUTE APPROVAL ,-"OTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Longbella, to approve the September 4, 1980 Minutes as \....,.rritten. Motion carried unanimously. Page. #3 ~ Minutes February 5, 1981 ::) o MOTION by Longbella, seconded by LeFebvre, to approve the September 18, 1980 Minutes as wri tten. Motion carr.ied unanimously. .,- , ,-,DTION by Longbella, seconded by LeFebvre, to approve the October 2~ 1980 Minutes as written. Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Longbella, to approve the November 6, 1980 ~~inutes as written. Motion carried unanimously. 1980 EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES The Commission received handwritten sheets of the 1980 expenditures and revenues. Chairman Mand asked what the interest rate was on the savings account thinking that putting this money into savings certificates would draw a higher interest rate. He also asked for an explanation of why the third quarter's interest was less than the second quarter's when there had been no activity in the account during these periods. The secretary stated she would obtain this information. Chairman Mand also asked that Larry Winner be present at the next meeting. MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Rogers, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 9:30 p.m. Respectfully submitted: /}?t LJ II ~'tU C,j(i.JJkdb R e Ellen BakRe( Secretary /r--,,\ 'j OJ'Y 01 ANDOVER 0 M E M 0 RAN DUM ,:) \...' TO: Mayor and City Council Planning and Zoning Commission COPIES TO: FROM: Park Commission DA TE:: February 11, 1981 REFERENCE: Oakwood Estates Plat The following motion was made at the February 5, 1981 Park Commission meeting and is for your consideration: MOTION by LeFebvre, seconded by Longbella, to recommend the City Council accept cash in lieu of land in the amount of $5,800.00 on the Oakwood Estates plat. Motion carried unanimously. Please refer to the Minutes for details. /J / Cz",1 db '~?/~~ Wes Mand, Ac ing Chairman ,,) \.-....~...