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Call to order
Approval of minutes
1. Comma #5-81-9
2. Comma #2-81-2
3. Comma #8-80-12
4. Comma #5-81-8
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
JUNE 23, 1981
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Northern Natural Gas Special Use Permit Public Hearing, Cont.
Multiple Conversion Ordinance
Ordinance 8 Amendment (Zones allowing liquor) Public Hearing
Ordinance 8, Section 4.05, Accessory Buildings
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
JUNE 23, 1981
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The regularly scheduled Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chair-
person d'Arcy Bosell at 7:33 P.M., Tuesday, June 23, 1981 at the Andover City Hall, 1685
Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Anoka, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Kishel, Scherer, Anstett, Johnson
Commissioners Absent: Apel, Lobb
Also Present: City Engineer, Larry Winner; John Callahan, Northern Natural Gas
Company; interested residents.
Approval of Minutes
June 9, 1981
MOTION by Kishel, seconded by Anstett to approve the minutes of June 9, 1981 as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
Northern Natural Gas Company Special Use Permit Public Hearing (Comm. #5-81-9)
Chairperson Bosell opened the Public Hearing.
John Callahan, Right-of-way Agent for Northern Natural Gas - explained that they would like to
install a 6-5/8" diameter natural gas pipeline crossing the Rum River. It will run parallel
with the existing line, which was installed 22 years ago. The reason for the additional line
is increased capacity.
Chairperson Bosell noted that she spoke to David Leuthe of the Department of Natural Resources
and they stated that they will certify this request if the pipeline is in the same alignment
as the existing pipeline.
commissioner Anstett asked if there have been any problems with the existing pipeline. Mr.
Callahan stated that there haven't been any problems. They have crews that go out if there
are any problems and they also fly over the pipeline to check it for leaks.
MOTION by Kishel, seconded by Anstett to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Johnson, seconded by Scherer that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval of a Special Use Permit requested by Northern Natural
Gas Company, division of InterNorth, Inc., to install a 6-5/8" diameter natural gas pipeline
crossing the Rum River at Government Lot 7, SEa of the NWa, Section 13, Township 32N, Range
25W, Anoka County, Minnesota, for the following reasons: 1) The proposed pipeline will not
be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 2) It will not pose
a serious hazard; 3) It will not depreciate surrounding property values; 4) It does not con-
flict with the general purpose or intent of the zoning ordinance or the Comprehensive Plan;
5) A public hearing was held and there was no opposition; 6) The pipeline will run parallel
with an existing pipeline of the same size.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on July 7, 1981.
c=)ordinance 8 Amendment (Zones Allowing Liquor) Public Hearing (Comm. #2-81-2)
Chairperson Bosell opened the public hearing. She explained that the Commission has received
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r~"\rom the Liquor study Committee the proposed draft ordinance for the licensing
"-liquor. The Commission is to look at where liquor would best fit in the city.
the ordinance allows for liquor in a Shopping Center district only (this would
clubs which are licensed by the state; there is no city control over them).
and sale of
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be setups and
Jim Elling, 13829 Northwood Drive, Chairman of the Liquor Study Committee - stated that at
the public hearing on the liquor question, there was a lack of input from the residents.
Because of this lack of response, the Committee members went door to door asking peoples'
opinions. They heard indifference as long as it wasn't allowed in a residential area.
The Committee felt it should be allowed in LI, SC and some other limited areas.
Chairperson Bosell asked if the Committee is recommending that liquor not be allowed in a
Neighborhood Business. Mr. Elling said that was their recommendation.
Commissioner Kishel felt that a Special Use Permit should be required. Mr. Elling stated that
he checked with other cities to see what they do. In Minneapolis it is done strictly by
district. Certain districts are allowed certain kinds of licenses.
Commissioner Johnson noted that looking at an ordinance that isn't adopted makes it difficult
to make a decision.
Mr. Elling noted that you are allowed to have one liquor license for every 1500 people.
Commissioner Kishel questioned Section 6 of the Liquor Ordinance that requires an applicant
be a resident of the city. Mr. Elling stated that the Committee felt the residents be allowed
first chance at the licenses. A resident would feel more responsibility toward the liquor
store or restaurant. He also noted that the City Council would more than likely not go along
with that recommendation.
Chairperson Bosell asked whether a public hearing should be held by the Planning Commission
prior to the issuance of a liquor license. According to the Liquor Ordinance, the City
Council has to have a public hearing for the license. It was generally agreed that the
Planning Commission hold a public hearing so that the people within 350 feet of the proposed
liquor store or restaurant are notified.
Frank Padula, 4550 - 173rd Avenue N.W. - suggested that the city be divided into different
sections and the city issue so many licenses for each section.
Marge Perry, 17337 Roanoke Street N.W. - felt that what the Liquor Study Committee has proposed
makes a lot of sense; the residents will know in advance what is proposed for each,\area.
Jan Sturgeon, 17307 Roanoke Street N.W. - asked how a restaurant got included in the Neighbor-
hood Business Classification. Chairperson Bosell noted that when the ordinance was written,
that's where it was put.
Commissioner Scherer stated that he would like to have the public hearing held at the Planning
Commission level.
Richard Wandersee, 17315 Navajo Street N.W. - Felt that if a person meets the zoning
requirements, a Special Use Permit should be required also.
r-~Chairperson Bosell stated that a provision should be made to have a liquor license in the
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~/rural area were there ~s no sewer.
Jacki Padula, 4550 - 173rd Avenue N.W. - asked how this whole liquor thing came about. Mr.
Elling explained that about 3 years ago, Stephen Nemeth and Jim Conroy asked about the
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Commissioner Scherer noted that a good reason for not having liquor in a Neighborhood Business
is because a Neighborhood Business is usually in a residential area.
Jan Sturgeon - asked how liquor licenses benefit the city. Commissioner Johnson stated that
the license fee for on-sale will be $3,500.00.
Recess 9:00 - Reconvene 9:13
Wayne Anderson, 1018 N.E. Main Street, representing Wm. C. Rademacher - stated that their
plans always include a restaurant in their Neighborhood Business area. They are interested
in attracting a good quality restaurant and are hopeful that a liquor license will be avail-
able. Mr. Anderson felt that the City's Neighborhood Business classification should be changed
to Retail Business as Neighborhood Business scares everyone. The residents should be more
afraid of Limited Industrial where smaller lot sizes are required. He also stated that they
were not the stimulus for the liquor question; they are simply trying to do their project in
good taste.
Chairperson Bosell noted that until our Comprehensive Plan is approved by the Metropolitan
Council, we are in limbo. When our ordinances are updated, we should change our districts.
As two members of the Commission are absent tonight, this item will be continued to July 14th.
Multiple Conversion Ordinance (Comm. #8-80-12)
This will be continued to July 14, 1981.
Ordinance 8, Section 4.05, Accessory Buildings (Comm. #5-81-8)
Commissioner Johnson noted that he checked the nature of the complaints regarding too many
accessory buildings on a lot. There were two complaints. He checked with different cities
to see how they handle this and noted the following: Blaine has no control; Ramsey, East
Bethel and Apple Valley limit it to one accessory building. Apple Valley also limits the
size to 144 square feet; anything larger than that requires a variance. In Coon Rapids, any-
thing over 100 square feet requires a slab.
It was noted that there are other areas in the city where we need more enforcement. The
Visual Standards section of the ordinance should take care of accessory buildings.
Commissioner Johnson will prepare a written report on his findings for the next meeting. This
will be continued to July 14, 1981.
Chairperson Bosell noted that at the last City Council meeting they dealt with Mr. padula's
rezoning request and Mr. Babcock, the attorney for the Northwest Area Homeowner's Association,
attempted to make the Planning Commission look foolish because of the reasons used for
approving the rezoning. In the future, the Commission should be more careful in making
recommendations so that we distinguish ordinance criteria from reasons for approval/denial.
Commissioner Anstett reminded the Commissioners of the Farm Tour scheduled for Tuesday,
June 30th. It was noted that the City Council will not be attending as they have a special
/ 'meeting scheduled for that night. Commissioner Anstett also noted that she spoke to Dick
\.~swanson, the County Extension Agent, and he felt there should be an informational meeting
at City Hall regarding the agricultural preserve question. He thought that the City Council
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and he should chair the meeting. Commissioner Anstett will take care of the details for
"setting up the meeting.
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MOTION by Kishel, seconded by Johnson to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting
adjourned at 10:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Vicki Volk, Commission Secretary
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