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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAugust 24, 1982 U cJ ~ 01 ANDOVER ,,,....., \J REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AUGUST 24, 1982 AGENDA Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes - August 10, 1982 l. Comm. #8-82-1 Paul Henry Lot Split 2. Comm. #7-82-3 Accessory Buildings 3. Comm. #8-82-2 Neighborhood Business Districts 4. Comm. #8-82-3 Review Ordinance 8, Sections 4:23 & 4.24 5. State Planning Slide Presentation () o o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER (-\ V REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AUGUST 24, 1982 MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell at 7:38 P.M., Tuesday, August 24, 1982 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Anstett, Apel, Elling, Perry, Randklev, Spotts None City Engineer, James Schrantz; Paul Henry; others Approval of Minutes August 10, 1982 Page 1, Motion on Bunker Lake Auto Sales, last line - change to 'the parking requirements...'. Page 3, under Accessory Buildings, second sentence, and the word 'and' between Snyder and Gary. MOTION by Elling, seconded by Apel to approve the minutes of August 10, 1982 as corrected. Motion carried on a 5 yes, 2 present (Anstett, Randklev) vote. ~>aul Henry Lot Split (Comm. #8-82-1) Paul Henry, 4310 - 145th Avenue N.W. - stated that he bought a five acre parcel of land south of Andover West prior to the platting of Andover West and he would like to split it into two 2! acre lots. He stated that he would like to build a house on the northern part of the property. This portion of the property abuts a public road. Commissioner Elling noted that if the property is split into two parcels, they do not meet the 2! acre requirement; they are short by 5415 square feet. Mr. Henry noted that he recently had the property surveyed and it is 330' by 660'. Chairperson Bosell explained that the street has to be excluded from those dimensions, which makes it less than five acres. She noted that if this lot split goes to the City Council, it will require a variance for the substandard size lots. Commissioner Apel also noted that another variance would be required because there is not 300 feet of frontage on a public road on the northern part of the parcel; it only abuts a public road. Chairperson Bosell asked Mr. Henry if he had considered extending Guarani street coming down from Andover West so that he would have the required frontage. Mr. Henry stated that he has not considered that. He felt that.a cul-de-sac could be constructed off of Guarani Street, giving him the required frontage. (~~ommissioner Elling noted that if you take 33 feet from Mr. Henry's property and Mr. Burger's ~vroperty to the west, Guarani Street will not line up on the south. Discussion continued on the alignment of Guarani Street if it is to be extended. l' ) L_J Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting August 24, 1982 - Minutes Page 2 ') '_ .(P. Henry Lot Split, Cont.) City Engineer Schrantz asked Mr. Henry what his timetable is for building on this property. Mr. Henry noted that his house is sold contingent upon this lot split and Al Parent is ready to start construction on the new house. Commissioner Apel stated that in order to put a house on that property, Mr. Henry will have to consider that Guarani Street will eventually go through to the south. Chairperson Bosell noted that the whole purpose of Guarani in Andover West was to tie it into Guarani Street in Lund's Round Lake Estates. Commissioner Elling suggested that Mr. Henry drop the lot split and simply build his house. That way he does not need to put in a street or a cul-de-sac. It was noted that the sewer will be going to that area eventually and at that time, Mr. Henry may want to split the property into more than two lots. Mr. Henry stated that he would like to pursue the lot split. Chairperson Bosell noted that if he does pursue the lot split, two variances would be required. Commissioner Elling suggested that Mr. Henry could make one of the lots bigger than the other and then only one variance would be required. Chairperson Bosell stated that the northern lot would not have the 300 feet of required frontage and two variances would be required, one for the substandard lot and one for the frontage. , ~i ty Engi neer Schrantz felt tha t Mr. Henry should buil d a cul-de-sac and spl it the lot. '. I --Commissioner Apel felt that Mr. Henry should just build the house and not split the lot. Chairperson Bosell suggested that Mr. Henry go before the City Council at their next meeting and explain what he wants to do and ask their direction. Recess 9:00 - Reconvene 9:20 (P. Henry Lot Split, Cont.) Mr. Henry stated that he does not want to go to the City Council to see what they want him to do; he would like the Planning Commission make a decision tonight. He'felt that he will need a variance in either case. Commissioner Elling felt that the City will want to have Guarani Street extended. Commissioners Anstett, Apel, Perry, Randklev, Spotts, and Bosell all felt that Guarani Street should be extended. Mr. Henry asked if he could dedicate 66 feet to the city but not put the road in. Chair- person Bosell noted that generally, the City doesn't take a dedicated road without construction. City Engineer Schrantz noted that if Mr. Henry dedicates 66 feet for the street, he will end up with four acres, rather than five. And if he splits that, he will have two 2 acre lots. '---~hairperson Bosell didn't feel that ~1r. Henry should have to dedicate 66 feet; he should '--calk to Mr. Burger to see if they can join in building the road so each one can give 33 feet. This item should be continued to the next meeting so that Mr. Henry can talk to Mr. Burger. l) l) Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting August 24, 1982 - Minutes Page 3 ~~P. Henry Lot Split, Cont.) MOTION by Elling, seconded by Anstett that we continue this item to the next meeting to give the Chairman an opportunity to see what the city wants~done with Guarani Street and also to give the Planning Commission an opportunity to do further research on this item. Commissioner Perry asked the City Engineer to read Ordinance 10, Section 9.03 (B) and (E) regarding street jogs and asked how much of Mr. Burger1s property would be used if the road deflects. City Engineer Schrantz noted that 33 feet would be used. Vote on Motion: Carried unanimously. This item will be continued at the next"meeting. Chairperson Bosell noted that September 14th, which is the date of the next meeting, is primary election day and we either have to reschedule the meeting or start after 8:00 on the 14th. It was agreed that the meeting will be held on September 13th, which is a Monday. Commissioner Anstett informed the Commission that she will be absent from the two meetings in September and the first one in October as she will be out of the country. Accessory Buildings (Comm. #7-82-3) Commissioner Perry stated that she received ordinances from other cities regarding accessory buildings and most of them have the same definition that we have for accessory buildings. The cities of Bloomington and Coon Rapids do not allow any accessory buildings forward of the primary structure. ~__Lhairperson Bosell felt that the variance section of the ordinance should be changed rather than the section dealing with accessory buildings. She suggested waiting until the ordinances are updated to deal with this item. It was the concensus of the commission to wait until the ordinances are updated before dealing with this item. Neighborhood Business Districts (Comm. #8-82-2) Commissioner Elling stated that when he brought this up at the last meeting he was not aware of what the Commission had done last year. He did note that he would like to see some of the NB districts, such as Conroy's and Nemeth's, revert back to zonings which are compatible with the surrounding areas. Chairperson Bosell noted that the Commission also talked about changing Neighborhood Business to something else. This item will be continued the first meeting in November. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Elling to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M. Respectfully submitted, C)Lz.& Vicki Volk Commission Secretary