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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJuly 27, 1982 (~ ") u C~ C~ ~ 01 ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COfI,MISSION MEETING JULY 27, 1982 AGENDA Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes - July 13, 1982 1. Comma #7-82-1 2: Comma #11-81-1 3. Comma #7-82-2 4, () o Bunker Lake Auto Special Use Permit Public Hearing Firearms Ordinance Public Hearing, Cont. Ordinance 10 Amendment - Subdivision Regulations Kickoff Meeting - Ordinance Update - Barton-Aschman C~ U ~ 01 ANDOVER (-") ~-,' REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING JULY 27, 1982 MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell at 7:34 P.M., Tuesday, July 27, 1982 at the Andover City Hall, )685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Anstett, Elling, Perry, Randklev, Spotts Apel Bill Short and Susan B1achman, Barton-Aschman Associates; interested residents; City Engineer, James Schrantz Approval of Minutes July 13, 1982 MOTION by Anstett, seconded by Elling to approve the minutes of July 13, 1982 as written. Motion carried on a 5 yes, 1 present (Spotts) vote. Firearms Ordinance Public Hearing, Cont. (Comm. #11-81-1) Chairperson Bosell reopened the public hearing. () Commissioner Elling noted that he, Commissioner Apel and Frank Schoonover met to discuss this ordinance and they decided that it will be left basically the same. Ordinance 12, 12A, 12B, and 12C will be eliminated and the new Firearms Ordinance will be number 61. The definitions for rifle, shotguns and hand guns will be changed and BB guns will be eliminated from the ordinance. The lot size for hunting on one's own property will be 10 acres or more. The description of the backstop will be redone and the ordinance will have a disclaimer in it. Commissioner Anstett asked how the slaughtering of livestock will be handled. Commissioner Elling noted that it could be put into the ordinance as an exception. Commissioner Anstett also felt that people slaughtering their livestock should not have to come in to the city to get a permit. Commissioner Elling felt that the city should be notified of who is hunting but that a fee should not be required. He noted that if someone is hunting on their property and someone complains, the sheriff will be called. With a permit, City Hall will know who is hunting. Ken Taylor - stated that the fee was for those people who drive out here from the city and just start shooting anywhere. Commissioner Perry asked about hunting on Round Lake. Commissioner Elling stated that it will be left as it is. Chairperson Bosell noted that because of the 500' requirement and the fact that you can't hunt in open waters, Round Lake is more or less closed. Commissioner Spotts felt that those people with larger parcels of land should be able to hunt on them. He felt that we should have permits, but no fees. (\ ~_.1 Chairperson Bosell noted that we have to make sure we publicize this so everyone is aware of what the rules are. C' Planning and Zoning commissioj Meeting July 27, 1982 - Minutes Page 2 ?~ (Firearms Ordinance, Cont.) V C' -) Commissioner Elling will get the revised ordinance to City Hall to be retyped. The clerk was asked to send several copies of the ordinance to Frank Schoonover. This item will be continued on August 10, 1982. Ordinance 10 Amendment/Subdivision Regulations (Comm. #7-82-2) Chairperson Bosell noted area. If the city wants resolution Chapter 564. office and have anything that these regulations cover the seven county Metropolitan to participate in this, the City Council has to adopt by Before this act was passed, a person could go to the Auditor's recorded, such as lot splits. Commissioner Perry felt that there is a need for the city to know in advance what is happening. The procedure to be followed is not difficult. The clerk was asked to contact the cities of Coon Rapids, Blaine and Lino Lakes to see what advantages and disadvantages there are because of this act. City Engineer Schrantz noted that there is an existing law now that says the same thing as this act. Hennepin County has been doing this for years. One of the problems is where there is a five acre subdivision and people cut out one acre and have it recorded. He also noted that in the sewered area, a person could cut out the part of the property his house is on, and let the land go tax delinquent. The only disadvantage he could think of is that someone has to do the paperwork. o Commissioner Spotts volunteered to research this item. 10, 1982. This will be continued to August Recess 8:30 - Reconvene 8:40 Kickoff Meeting - Ordinance Update - Barton-Aschman Bill Short, Barton-Aschman - asked if the City Council has accepted the Planning Commission's recommendation that his firm update the ordinances. Chairperson Bose11 noted that they have and are waiting for Barton-Aschman to submit a contract and work program. Mr. Short asked if he could get a copy of the Comprehensive Plan. It was noted that there are no extra copies of the Plan at City Hall; however, TKDA is supposed to have more printed. The clerk was asked to check to see if the City Council recommended that TKDA do the printing rather than have Northwest Associated Consultants do it. Mr. Short explained that they will have a six step update program, starting with this kickoff meeting. City Engineer Schrantz asked if the updated ordinance will be in the same format as the old ordinance. Mr. Short noted it will be. There will be an index, table of contents and references. He stated that they will encourage the City Council members to attend the Planning Commission review meetings. o Commissioner Elling asked if it would be possible to put margins on the sides so that the sections of the old ordinance could be referenced to go along with the new ordinance. Mr. Short noted that they could do that. Commissioner Elling also felt that it should be double spaced so that it is easier to read and make changes. f- "' "-.j c.) Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting July 27, 1982 - Minutes Page 3 ,~ '\.J (Ordinance Update, Cont.) Mr. Short noted that one of the problems in other communities has been accessory buildings. Commissioner Anstett noted that that is a problem here also. Chairperson Bosell felt that we need something for the rural area and something for the urban area. Mr. Short stated that one of the biggest changes they will suggest is to list the permitted uses, accessory uses and special uses for each district rather than having a separate section for each. Commissioner Elling felt that two of the city's biggest problems are the landfill and the junkyards. Commissioner Anstett noted that another problem is new businesses coming into the city. Chairperson Bosell stated that the rules are too general; all have some areas that are too broad. City Engineer Schrantz asked Mr. Short if they are going to look at setting up a site plan procedure for industrial and commercial developments. Mr. Short stated'that they could look at that. r~, , ) Discussion was on the zoning map and rezonings. Chairperson Bosell noted that the city has had trouble with the definition of Neighborhood Business. Mr. Short stated that Shoreland Lot District is shown in the ordinance and that should be compared with the Shoreland Management Regulations. It was mentioned that there is a 1980 law that allows cities to request park land dedication in a metes and bounds subdivision. The clerk was asked to check with the City Attorney on this. Bunker Lake Auto Special Use Permit Public Hearing (Comm. #7-82-1) Inasmuch as there was no one present representing this item, it will be continued to August 10th. MOTION by Anstett to adjourn. Meeting adjourned at 10:35 P.M. Respectfully submitted, L.~ Vicki Volk, Recording Clerk o