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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 11, 1982 o o o Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes l. Comm. #3-82-4 2. Comm. #2-82-5 3. Comm. #11-81-1 4. Comm. #3-82-5 5. Comm. #5-82-1 o 0 e<<, tJ/ ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 11, 1982 AGENDA Ordinance 8, Section 7.03 Amendment Public Hearing Ordinance 8, Section 6.02 Amendment, Cont. Firearms Ordinance Draft Ordinance Update Proposals, Cont. Comprehensive Plan Amendment U 0 e<<, 01 ANDOVER o REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 11, 1982 MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting was called to order by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell at 7:36 P.M., Tuesday, May 11, 1982 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Anstett, Apel, Randklev, Perry, Spotts Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: James Schrantz, City Engineer; Mark Schumacher, T.K.D.A. Engineer Approval of Minutes Apri 1 27, 1982 MOTION by Anstett, seconded by Spotts to approve the minutes of April 27, 1982 as written. Motion carried unanimously. Ordinance 8, Section 7.03 Amendment Public Hearing (Comm. #3-82-4) Chairperson Bosell opened the Public Hearing. She noted that at the last meeting, the Commission talked about what they wanted to have to convert a single family home into a two-family home. She felt that rather than have the criteria for a two-family home in Section 7.03 of the ordinance it should be in Section 5.03. o Commissioner Anstett suggested having a check list typed up so that when someone applies for a Special Use Permit they are aware of everything that is required. Chairperson Bosell noted that when the City Council reviewed the amendment to the ordinance allowing beauty salons in non-sewered areas, they took out the provision that the conditions of the Special Use Permit shall be on file with the title at the county. She felt that it should be taken out of this amendment also. Commissioner Perry noted that her main reason for insisting that the property be owner occupied is that we are trying to provide affordable housing for those who cannot afford to buy homes, and we should not be providing ways for people who are going to be speculating. City Engineer Schrantz suggested that we leave Ordinance 8M as it is, allowing for two- family homes only when lot locations are established and approved on original plats, and add a section for single family homes with apartments. He also noted that the lot area should be 13,000 square feet as that is the minimum required in a R-4 District. He suggested that the part dealing with the Building Inspector and Fire Department should be changed to read: 'meets the Uniform Building Code and shall be approved by the Fire Marshal.' o Commissioner Spotts felt that they should also be allowed in R-3 districts. Chairperson Bosell concurred, noting that the criteria for R-3 and R-4 are the same except for the lot area. (R-3 requires 20,000 square feet). The secretary will type a new draft of the amendment and send it to the City Attorney for his written comments. This will be continued on May 25, 1982. Recess 8:57 - Reconvene 9:00 l \ ,J Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 11, 1982 - Minutes Page 2 ~ Ordinance 8, Section 6.02 Amendment, Cont. (Comm. #2-82-5) Chairperson Bosell noted that this item was taken care of when the Commission decided that basements should not be a requirement of new home construction. This item will be continued as dwelling unit requirements, i.e., requirements for mobile homes. l-.J Commissioner Spotts noted that the items we can regulate are the width of the mobile homes and the type of foundation. The secretary will check with the city attorney to see what the difference is between mobile homes and manufactured homes according to the act that was passed. This will be continued on May 25th as Dwelling Unit Requirements. Firearms Ordinance Draft (Comm. #11-81-1) Commissioner Apel noted that the Firearms Committee met on Tuesday, May 4th and came up with a draft ordinance which he presented to the Commissioners. Commissioner Anstett asked if any consideration was given to people who slaughter their animals with a handgun. Commissioner Apel stated no. The Commissioners will go over the ordinance and this item will be continued on May 25, 1982. Ordinance Update Proposals, Cont. (Comm. #3-82-5) ,~ "\ ,~ Chairperson Bosell noted that at the last meeting the Commission selected three firms that they felt would do a good job for the city: Barton-Aschman; Northwest Associated Consultants; and Wehrman Associates. She also noted that Commissioner Spotts had called some of their references. Commissioner Spotts noted that he contacted Lino Lakes in regard to Barton Aschman and they were very impressed with Bill Short. Spring Lake Park had used Wehrman Consultants in 1972 and the people who were there then have since left. Plymouth used them in 1976 and noted that they did a fairly good job. The City of Anoka has used Wehrman Consultants and is still using them. They are very impressed with John Bergly. The City of Robbinsdale had North- west Associated Consultants do their Comprehensive Plan in 1974; they noted that the overall plan was not good. In 1977, Robbinsdale had them do something else for them and they stated that they got what they paid for. Commissioner Spotts felt that the Planning Commission could do just as good a job by them- selves rather than hiring an outside firm to update the ordinances. Chairperson Bosell noted that she spoke to the Mayor about the Commission doing the work and he stated that once the Comprehensive Plan is adopted, we only have a certain amount of time to update our ordinances. If the Commission does the updating, we will have four meetings a month rather than 2. Commissioner Spotts suggested the Commission do it and if there are any problems, we could hire a consultant for a few hours. : lCity Engineer Schrantz felt that the Commission should look at Urban Planning and Design's ,J proposa 1 . T.K.D.A. Engineer Mark Schumacher noted that with what Commissioner Spotts is suggesting, the city doesn't have anyone who is familiar with the ordinances and it would be difficult to hire a consultant for just a few hours to help. l~ CJ Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 11, 1982 - Minutes Page 3 ~)(Ordinance Update, Cont.) Commissioner Anstett asked if the Commission is that much more experienced with our community than a planner might be. Commissioner Apel felt that we should hire someone to do the updating. Commissioner Perry stated that we need the assistance of someone to help us organize but she did not want to turn over to an outside party what her responsibility is. She felt the Commission should make a commitment to be involved with the process. Commissioner Randklev stated that she would be more comfortable with having someone help out. Commissioner Spotts noted that if we have someone else do the updating he doesn't want to end up with a Xerox copy of someone else's ordinances. At this time the Commissioners went over the proposals again with Chairperson Bosell noting that Howard Dahlgren Associates would not be a good choice since they are working with Good Value Homes at this time and it might be a conflict of interest. Commissioner Randklev didn't feel that Northwest Associated Consultants should be in the top three. She felt that Urban Planning and Design should be looked at as the money involved was good and she liked the conciseness of their letter. v City Engineer Schrantz felt that the Commission should invite the consultants out to ,-~ discuss their proposals. It was the concensus of the Commission that the following firms be invited to City Hall on Wednesday, May 19th starting at 7:30 P.M. to discuss their proposals: Urban Planning and Design, Barton-Aschman Associates, Wehrman Associates and BRW. The interviews will be for 45 minutes each, with the first 15 minutes being devoted to the firm's proposal, the second 15 minutes will be a dialogue between the firm and the Planning Commission and the last 15 minutes will be a closed discussion by the Planning Commission. The secretary will notify the firms and ask them to have the following prepared: current references (which communities they are now working with); completed samples of what they have done for other communities; who will be representing their firm; what procedure they will follow; and if their proposal includes codifying the ordinances. Comprehensive Plan Amendments (Comm. #5-82-1) T.K.D.A. Engineer Mark Schumacher presented the amendments to the Commission noting that the Urban Service area line is being changed. These changes came about as a result of a meeting with Metropolitan Council and Charles Weaver. Another of the amendments is an acreage summary of which land is available for residential development in the Urban Service Area between now and 1990. He noted that the second set of amendments has do to with the Comprehensive Sanitary Sewer Plan. The present sewer plan dates back to 1976. When the City Council rezoned the city in 1980 the Urban Service Area line was changed and now there are six maps in the plan that need to be changed. Commissioner Anstett asked if the city has any idea of what the other interceptors are going to be. Engineer Schumacher stated that we don't now as yet; one is the CAB inter- (~cePtor. The others are not even in the planning stages yet. The Planning Commission compared the amendments with the originals in the Comprehensive Plan. The original Urban Service Area included what was to be known as Rolling Creek Trails; that is now excluded (Page numbered 44A). Number 63A is the Staged Provision of Urban Services map; number 63B is the 1990 Urban Service Area map; number 64A is the ~ ') _J Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting May 11, 1982 - Minutes Page 4 (~ (Comprehensive Plan Amendments, Cont.) "City of Andover Estimated Gross Area land Use, Consumption, Breakdown between Urban and Rural table; 64B is the "Acreage Summary"; 78A is the City of Andover, Population by TAZ, Andover Projections, Breakdown between Urban and Rural table; and 72A is the Adopted Zoning 1980 map. , \ LJ MOTION by Apel, seconded by Anstett~+ the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval and adoption of the amendments to the Comprehensive Plan dated May 18, 1982, items 1 through 7, except for a change on Page 72A to change 3,900 feet to 39,000 square feet. These amendments are the product of meetings and research done by the consulting engineer, T.K.D.A. and City Staff. These amendments document the changes made by Metropolitan Council in our land Use Plan review process. Vote on motion: Yes - Anstett, Apel, Bosell, Randklev, Spotts; Present - Perry. Motion carried. This will go to the City Council on May 18, 1982. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Spotts that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval and adoption of the amendments to the Comprehensive Sanitary Sewer Plan dated May 18, 1982, items 1 through 6 as attached. The changes were a result of the change in the Urban Service Area boundary. These changes were a result of meetings between the City Engineer and T.K.D.A. represented by Mark Schumacher. These amendments will bring the Comprehensive Sanitary Sewer Plan into compliance with the requirements of c_) the land Use Planning Act. Vote on Motion: Yes - Anstett, Apel, Bosell, Randklev, Spotts; Present - Perry. Motion carried. This will go to the City Council on May 18, 1982. MOTION by Spotts, Seconded by Randklev to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 11:33 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ~~~~~~------------------------ Vicki Volk, Commission Secretary ()