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HomeMy WebLinkAboutApril 20, 1982 Call to order - 7:30 P.M. l. Comm. #3-82-4 2. Comm. #2-82-5 3. Comm. #12-81-1 4. Comm. #11-81-1 5. Comm. #3-82-5 o o o o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 20, 1982 AGENDA Multiples in R-4 Zones Ordinance 8, Sec. 6.02 Amendment, Cont. Noise Control Ordinance, Cont. Firearms Committee Update, Cont. Ordinance Update Proposals o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 20, 1982 MINUTES A Special Meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairperson d'Arcy Bosell at 7:35 P.M., Tuesday, April 20, 1982 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Perry, Randklev, Spotts, Anstett Apel Multiples in R-4 Zones (Comm. #3-82-4) Chairperson Bosell explained why the City Council referred this item to the Planning Commission again, noting that at the present time multiples are not allowed to be built anywhere in the city unless they are a part of a plat. She noted that if we do allow them we have to have some criteria such as: 1) Should they be owner-occupied; 2) should we limit the number of occupants; 3) should we limit the number of vehicles; 4) do they need to have separate sewer stubs; 5) they should meet the building code requirements. Accord- ing to Ordinance 8, a two family home requires 800 square feet per unit and a lot size of 14,000 square feet. Commissioner Perry felt that a two car garage plus parking in the driveway for 2 cars should be sufficient. C=:'Commissioner Spotts stated that he called the surrounding communities to see what kind of ordinance they have for allowing a person to rent out a part of their home. The City of Champlin and the City of Coon Rapids do not have any kind of ordinance; they have received several calls recently aSking if this can be done however. Spring Lake Park recently had one home converted to a two-family. In that case the owner got a Special Use Permit, which states that it must be owner-occupied and in the event the home is sold, it will revert back to a single family dwelling. Chairperson Bosell asked if separate entrances are required and your home is a walkout, can you get a sliding glass door that can be locked with a key. Commissioner Anstett noted that she had a company tell her recently that you cannot do that. Commissioner Perry felt that for fire protection there should be an exit from each unit. Commissioner Spotts noted that he will be attending a seminar on Thursday evening at which time he expects this item to be brought up and would like to wait until after that meeting to make any decisions. Commissioner Perry stated that the homes should be owner-occupied, a Special Use Permit should be required and at the time the property is sold it reverts back to a single family dwelling and that the Special Use Permit have an annual review. It was the concensus of the Commissioners that separate entrances should be a requirement. Commissioner Perry noted that if we allow conversions without requiring owner-occupancy, c=)if there are problems do the people have any recourse. Is the city going to have some enforcement power? She stated that she would not object to a non-owner occupied home if there was some way of assuring that problems could be dealt with promptly and effectively. ( ~ ~) L) Special Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting April 20, 1982 - Minutes Page 2 \ ,~(Multiples in R-4, Cont.) The Commissioners agreed that a requirement be owner-occupancy. Commissioner Anstett asked the secretary to check with the City Attorney to see how enforce- ment of this ordinance will be handled. Discussion centered on whether these houses had to be in the sewered area or if they will be allowed in the non-sewered area. Commissioner Randklev felt that if they are in the non- sewered area, the lot might not be big enough for two septic systems. Commissioner Anstett noted that Ordinance 8, Section 7.01, R-4 Single Family Urban requires that private sewer and water are only allowed on every third lot or no more frequently than one system for each 39,000 square feet. She felt that one sewer stub would be sufficient if it is owner occupied because when the property is sold the Special Use Permit would be revoked. The secretary was asked to draft an ordinance that could be discussed at the next meeting. Items that should be included in the ordinance are: 1) the lot must have 7,000 square feet for each unit; 2) each unit must have a minimum of 800 square feet of floor area; 3) a Special Use Permit is required and this permit will expire at the time of sale; 4) a floor plan must be provided and shall be approved by the Building Inspector and the Fire Department; 5) there shall be separate entrances; 6) it shall be owner occupied; 7) there shall be off- street parking for 4 cars; 8) it has to be served by sanitary sewer. This item will be continued on April 27, 1982. . 'Ordinance 8, Section 6.02 Amendment, Cont. (Comm. #2-82-5) Commissioner Spotts has researched the idea of requiring attached garages on new dwellings. He noted that Brooklyn Park, Ham Lake, Ramsey and Champlin do not require a garage at all. Blaine requires a 14' x 20' garage, either attached or detached. In Coon Rapids, in the Shannon Park development, attached garages are required. The remaining part of the city does not have to have garages. The City of Anoka requires either an attached or detached garage at the time of building. In Fridley, either an attached or detached garage is required, the lot must be a minimum of 75 feet wide and 9,000 square feet. Commissioner Perry felt that the Commission should review the act allowing mobile homes anywhere in the city before this item is acted on as that act is the reason this is being considered. The secretary will ask the City Attorney if the State's definition of manufactured housing includes mobile homes per our ordinance definitions for mobile homes and manufactured housing. This item will be continued on April 27, 1982. Noise Control Ordinance (Comm. #12-81-1) It was noted that former Commissioner Lobb was in charge of this item and that no one else has been assigned to research it. , 'Commissioner Perry noted that under our ordinance now, if a person is arrested at a noisy '-/)party, the police officer would have to have a decible reading in order to prosecute that person. When the Planning Commission recommended that Ordinance 8, Section 8.19 be amended to include noisy parties the City Attorney didn't feel that was appropriate as that section deals more with on-going permanent noise. She felt that the State Statute is broad enough ( Special Planning and Zoning\.... )ission Meeting April 20, 1982 - Minutes Page 3 , , ~.) :-)(Noise Control Ordinance, Cont.) ,,--,' and is something we could use. Recess 9:35 - Reconvene 9:50. It was decided that portions of the State Statute, the model ordinance and the City of Brainerd's ordinance would be incorporated into a draft ordinance and will be discussed at the April 27, 1982 meeting. Firearms Committee Update (Comm. #11-81-1) Commissioner Anstett noted that the City Clerk has written a letter to Commissioner Apel asking him to let us know what is happening with this ordinance as he is the Chairman of the Committee. At this time John Uban of Howard Dahlgren Associates approached the Commission asking that his firm be considered as a consultant for the updating of the ordinances. He noted that they are the planning consultants for Monticello, Roseville, Mendota Heights and Burnsville. The Commission agreed to wait to make a decision until after reviewing the proposal from Howard Dahlgren Associates. Firearms Committee Update, Cont. Chairperson Bosell suggested that the secretary contact Ken Taylor of the Firearms Committee ,-,to see if he would be interested in chairing the committee if Commissioner Apel is unable '___jto do so and that a report be given to the Planning Commission on April 27, 1982. Ordinance Update Proposals (Comm. #3-82-5) After reviewing the proposals that have been submitted, the Commissioners noted their choices. Commissioner Anstett chose Wehrman Consultants and Barton-Aschman Associates; Commissioner Perry chose Wehrman Consultants, Barton Aschman Associates and Yaggy Associates; Commissioner Randklev chose Northwest Associated Consultants, Wehrman Consultants, Urban Planning and Tom Loucks; Commissioner Spotts chose Wehrman Consultants and Northwest Associated Consultants. The Commissioners will again review the following proposals and discuss this at the next meeting: Wehrman Consultants, Barton-Aschman Associates and Northwest Associated Consultants. The secretary was asked to contact John Uban and ask that their proposal be sent to the city as soon as possible. The secretary was also asked to obtain a copy of the Burnsville zoning ordinance as it has recently been updated. MOTION by Spotts, seconded by Anstett to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 10:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ~-) LL.LdJ Vicki Volk Recording Secretary