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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJune 2, 1983 ... o 0 ~ 01 ANDOVER o PARK COMMISSION 1{EETING - JUNE 2, 1983 MINUTES The Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Andover Park Commission was called to order by Chairman Nichols at 7:35 p.m., Thursday, June 2, 1983, at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Blvd. N.W. Commission Members Present: Commission Members Absent: Also Present: Carlson, LeFebvre, Longbella and Prochniak Mand Jim Schrantz - City Engineer/Public Works Director Sylvia Britton and Lary Carlson - Carlson's Sketch Plan Oak Hollow residents Tony Strukel - Community School/Summer School Coordinator COMMUNITY SCHOOL/SUMMER SCHOOL Tony Strukel reported the summer school program is basically the same as last year although several new classes at the school have been added. He then handed out attendance figures for the spring program and commented 30,000 people went through the school between 3:30 and 9:30 p.m. The three fields behind the school are booked for every night of the week. OAK HOLLOW An unidentified couple from this area requested the stumps be removed from this park so they could play ball. Jim Schrantz suggested renting some equipment and shoving them onto private property. They then asked that they be removed as they are an eyesore. Jim stated he could possibly send a letter to the developers asking them to get the stumps out of there. MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Longbella, authorizing the Public Works Director to arrange for the removal of stumps off the Oak Hollow park property and disposal of same. Motion carried unanimously. LARY CARLSON SKETCH PLAN The Commission was advised Mr. Carlson is planning on platting a portion of the old North Birch Creek Estates plat which was never finaled. Shown on this sketch plan is a 4.22 acre park at the northwest corner. Sylvia Britton advised 1~. Carlson would be late. Chairman Nichols stated he was not impressed to see a park off a county road. Also noted was that most of the proposed park area was low and a drainage ditch ran through a portion of it. Merlyn Prochniak felt the Commission should walk the land to see what it was like. He then asked Ms. Britton if Mr. Carlson would be willing to grade and fill the area. She stated she didn't think Mr. Carlson planned on that. Chairman Nichols suggested cash in lieu of land. Mr. Carlson arrived and readily agreed to cash in lieu of land advising there is a park in Pingers Plaza which abuts this property. ~OTION by Nichols, seconded by Longbella, to recommend the City Council accept cash in lieu of land on Lary Carlson's unnamed sketch plan. Discussion: Mr. Carlson will furnish documents showing how much he paid for the properties involved so a dollar amount can be established. Page #~ - Minutes June 2, 1983 u u Vote on Motion: Yes - Carlson, Longbella, Nichols; No - Prochniak. Motion carried. ~ SOFTBALL TOURNAMENT The Commission had been advised Concrete Concepts would like to use the City Hall field August 27th and 28th for a softball tournament. It was assumed they would be drinking beer, however, the ordinance prohibits the excessive use of alcohol. Merlyn Prochniak expressed concern over the fact they might tear up the new fields. He was told the grass should be pretty well established by the end of August. MOTION by Prochniak, seconded by Nichols, allowing Concrete Concepts to hold a softball tournament August 27th and 28th at City Hall with the stipulations the premises are cleaned up afterwards and a damage deposit has been received. Motion carried unanimously. SODERVILLE ATHLETIC ASSOC. The Commission had been informed of the recent problems with this organization in that they came to use the City Hall field and found Dist. #11 playing. The secretary then accepted a request from them to use the City Hall site next year. Attempts to contact Laurie Phillips have been unsuccessful. They then made a request to use Pine Hills Monday through Thursday this season. Further improvements to this park have already been started per previous motions. Yesterday Larry Bross called asking for a satellite. This was discouraged due to the expense and the fact Gary West advised none was needed last year for his teams in Northwoods East as they soon learn to control their liquid intake before playing. ~Ar. Bross stated he would go to the association to see if they would pay for the rental for 10 weeks. The Commission agreed not to provide them with a satellite at this location due to the expense adding that it, being in an isolated area, would be a source of vandalism. MOTION by Prochniak, seconded by NiChOls, allowing the Soderville Athletic Association to use the Pine Hills ballfield this season. Motion carried unanimously. NORTHGLEN II PARK The Commission reviewed the proposed master plan for this park and found it to be unacceptable as it was, for the most part, entirely different than agreed upon at the April 21st meeting. Jim Schrantz felt one reason for the changes would be trying to save trees. A copy of this plan was then marked deleting the parking lot, the hockey area and relocating the softball field to off the northerly entrance. Also discussed on April 21st was a berm to be placed between the southern edge of the soccer field and Bunker Lake Blvd. _ this was not reflected in the Minutes. The marked plan will be given to Jim Schrantz. MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Longbella, to request that Jim Schrantz work with Good Value to develop a park plan similar to the one originally talked about. Vote on Motion: Yes - Carlson, Longbella, Nichols; No _ Prochniak Discussion: Merlyn Prochniak's no vote reflects the fact he thought a better deal could have been made. Motion carried. GREEN ACRES :.JA request has been received to put some ag lime on the softball field in this park. MOTION by Prochniak, seconded by Longbella, to authorize Jim Schrantz to purchase and arrange to spread a sufficient quantity of ag lime at the Green Acres backstop location. Motion carried unanimously. () () Page # 3 - Minutes June 2, 1983 ~) Bill LeFebvre arrived at 8:15 p.m. KELSEY PARK!MAYOR'S PROPERTY No one, except Bill LeFebvre, had seen the property involved, nor had they read the City Council May 17th Minutes for background information. MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Longbella, to table the matter of whether or not to also purchase the Mayor's property until the Commission had a chance to view the topography. Motion carried unanimously. Discussion: The Commission would like Jim Schrantz to be present when the property is viewed. PROPOSED 138TH AVE. PARK Jim Schrantz reported the City Council at their May 17th meeting did not like the location of the recommended park on Parcel 1670 due to its proximity to commercial development and to Crosstown Blvd. Gilbert Menkveld was willing to sell this parcel for $20,000 which included the assessments. They considered two other areas which the City already owns for holding ponds. The areas would have to be filled and an easement purchased for the one site. When asked, Jim Schrantz stated there was about $60,000 available. The Commission wondered where the water would go if a ponding area was filled; possibly a more dangerous situation would be created. There must have been a good reason in the first place for the creation of these ponds. Chairman Nichols was very adamant and stated he would not agree to the other sites as they would show the kids where the water was instead of leading them away from it. The rest of the Commission agreed. Jim Schrantz stated Parcel 1670 could be fenced to alleviate some of the anticipated problems. MOTION by Nichols, seconded by Prochniak, to recommend the City Council authorize the purchase of Parcel 1670 and its development by using CDBG funds because it is dry. Motion carried unanimOUSly. BACKSTOP - CITY HALL Jim Schrantz wanted authorization to buy a backstop with no hood for City Hall this year. MOTION by Prochniak, seconded by Longbella, authorizing Jim Schrantz to order a straight backstop for City Hall as soon as possible. Motion carried unanimously. Merlyn Prochniak expressed the need for a water system that would adequately serve the area. Jim Schrantz stated he felt the water truck could handle it this summer. His priority, if there is any excess money left in Phase I, would be posts and cable to define the parking areas. The Commission agreed noting tonight people had to park on Crosstown. HOCKEY RINK Jim Schrantz was asked to obtain prices on fixing the hockey rink and also prices on the " cost of new one( s ). '--) ~OTION by Nichols, seconded by Longbella, to adjourn. Meeting adjourned 9:00 p.m. u o " # ... Page 4 - Minutes '- ' June 2, 1983 Respectfully submitted: :f:~~~~tary After the meeting adjourned, Jim Schrantz and the Commission went and looked at the hockey rink. It was decided to leave it as it is this year just making the necessary repairs and possibly hauling in some clay or other type of material to make flooding easier. \ ~. /