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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 13, 1983
AGENDA
Call to order - 7:30 P.M.
Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. #9-83-1
Rosella Sonsteby Rezoning Public Hearing
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Ordinance 8 Update
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 13, 1983
MINUTES
The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting was called to
order by Chairman d'Arcy Bosell at 7:35 P.M., Tuesday, December 13,1983 at the Andover
City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Knutson, Perry, Spotts, Rogers
Commissioners Absent: Apel
Also Present: Rosella Sonsteby
Approval of Minutes
November 8, 1983
MOTION by Perry, seconded by Knutson to approve the minutes of November 8, 1983 as
written. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 1 present (Rogers) vote.
November 15, 1983
MOTION by Rogers, Seconded by Spotts to approve the minutes of November 15, 1983 as
written. Motion carried unanimously.
November 22, 1983
MOTION by Perry, seconded by Knutson to approve the mi nutes of November 22, 1983 as
written. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 1 present (Rogers) vote.
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Rose 11 a Sonsteby Rezoni ng Pub 1 i c Hearing (Comm. #9-83';' 1 )
Chairman Bosell opened the public hearing. It was noted for the record that no one was
present for this item other than Mrs. Sonsteby.
Rosella Sonsteby, 4151 - 141st Avenue N.W. - Mrs. Sonsteby explained that the City Council
refen::ed this back to the Planning Commission for a public hearing to rezone the property
to Neighborhood Business as she wants to build a grocery store. They said that a grocery
store is not allowed in General Business but is allowed in Neighborhood Business. She
stated that the Council misinformed her, as a grocery store is not allowed in Neighbor-
hood Business. She also explained that in 1969 she came in to have that property rezoned
to commercial. There was no Neighborhood Business designation on that property at all;
the City rezoned her property like it shows on the map now. She stated that the city
had no right to do that. She noted that General Business allows for retail shopping
and asked if that would include a grocery store. Chairman Bosell stated that a grocery
store is retail shopping.
Chairman Bosell explained what happened when Delano Skeim came in with a proposal for
Strawberry Commons; the property was across from Hugh's Industrial Park and they wanted
approximately 10 acres for Neighborhood Business and the remainder for other uses. The
Council turned it down because our Neighborhood Business maximum size is 5 acres and
because it wasn't served by sewer. Mrs. Sonsteby's property probably won't be served
until after 1990.
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Regular Planning Commission Meeting
December 13, 1983 - Minutes
Page 2
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(Sonsteby Rezoning, Cont.)
Commissioner Perry stated that it would be very hard to fill 15 acres with Neighborhood
Business type businesses.
Commissioner Spotts felt that
recommendation on this item.
happened with the rezoning in
the Planning Commission should stay with their original
He also felt that the City Attorney should research what
1969 on this property.
Commissioner Perry stated that the 1969 rezoning does not say what kind of commercial
zoning it is. She asked Mrs. Sonsteby if she has any serious plans for the property.
Mrs. Sonsteby stated that she doesn't know yet what is going to go in there. They aren't
going to let. someone come in there and do something that is not good for the city. She
does have plans for a large grocery store.
Chairman Bosell asked if this item should be tabled until the next meeting so that the
City Attorney has a chance to research the 1969 rezoning.
Commissioner Spotts didn't feel that it should be tabled. It's a legal situation that
the Planning Commission shouldn't get involved in. His recommendation would be to have
our attorney do some research and then have him contact Mrs. Sonsteby's attorney.
Chairman Bosell asked if the 1969 rezoning would appear on the abstract. Mrs. Sonsteby
said it wouldn't be one there now because the property has never been sold. The records
of it, however, are somewhere at the Courthouse.
Commissioner Rogers suggested sending a recommendation to the City Council stating that
Mrs. Sonsteby is rejecting the Neighborhood Business zoning.
Commissioner Perry noted that she would like to table this item and ask for clarification
from the City Attorney as to what the property actually is. We should assist Mrs.
Sonsteby in finding a zoning that would meet her needs and we can't do that until we
know what we're dealing with.
Chairman Bosell stated that after the City Council meeting on this item, the City of
Anoka was solicited to respond as they had not responded prior to the Public Hearing,
during the public hearing or at the City Council meeting.
Mrs. Sonsteby stated that she was misled by the Council and does not want Neighborhood
Business zoning on that property.
MOTION by Spotts, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried
unanimously.
MOTION by Knutson, seconded by Rogers that Mrs. Sonsteby withdraw her request for
Neighborhood Business and the. City Council reconsider the original motion on this item
which recommends a rezoning to General Business, (September 27,1983 Planning Commission
meeting). There is a question as to the actural zoning of the property at this time
in light of the 1969 document but even if the property is found to be commercial, there
are no guidelines in our ordinance.
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Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on January 3, 1984.
Recess 8:50 P.M. - Reconvene 9:08 P.M.
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Regular Planning Commission Meeting
December 13, 1983 - Minutes
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At this time, the Planning Commission discussed the update of Ordinance 8. The concensus
of the Commission was that the work Barton-Aschman has done has not been satisfactory
and they would like to see the contract terminated. The following memo will be sent to
the Council for their December 20, 1983 meeting:
After considerable deliberation and by unanimous agreement, the Planning and Zoning
Commission recommends that we terminate the agreement with Barton-Aschman to complete
Ordinance 8. We feel we have the expertise to finish the draft and submit it to the
City Council.
The reasons we as a commission do not want to go ahead with Barton-Aschman are:
1. For the first meeting, we were told to be prepared to discuss Section 4; however,
when we arrived at the meeting, Mr. Short started with Section 6, which no one had
reviewed.
2. Much of the material we received was lifted directly from our existing ordinance.
3. In the Administrative Section, many pages dealt with Ordinance 10 and were mixed
in with Ordinance 8.
4. We have sent letters to Barton-Aschman asking for clarification on several items
and have received no response.
5. Because of the numerous revisions and corrections that had to be made in the
materials received, the Planning Commission was spending time which should have
been spent in discussion of philosophy, acting as proofers and research people in
order, to reflect in the draft the needs of the city.
6. The format of the materials received was not what was presented and we had
difficulty comparing the new recommendations with the present ordinance (the
format was to have had the new recommendations on one side of the page and the
old ordinance on the other for comparison).
7. As a Commission, we feel we can have a finished draft available to you by January
31, 1983.
The secretary will send a copy of the Anoka County Landfill Ordinance to Commissioner
Knutson and he will redo our section on landfills.
At the next meeting, December 27th, the Commission will begin with Service Stations.
The meeting was declared adjourned by the Chairman.
Meeting adjourned at 10:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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C) Vicki Vol k
.' Commission Secretary