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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 22, 1983
AGENDA
Call to order - 7:30 P.M.
Approval of Minutes
1. Comm. #11-83-1
2. Comm. #11-83-2
Rosella Sonsteby Vacation of Easement
Bialke-DeGardner Variance
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REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING
NOVEMBER 22, 1983
MINUTES
The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order
by Chairman d'Arcy Bosell at 7:40 P.M., Tuesday, November 22,1983 at the Andover City Hall,
1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota.
Commissioners Present: Knutson, Perry, Spotts
Commissioners Absent: Apel, Rogers
Also Present: James Schrantz, City Engineer; Rosella Sonsteby; Ben Bialke
Rosella Sonsteby Vacation of Easement Public Hearing (Comm. #11-83-1)
Chairman Bosell opened the public hearing.
Rosella Sonsteby, 4151 - 141st Avenue N.W. - stated that the way the legals are worded, the
easement was not vacated to the west as she thought it was supposed to be. Her attorney
felt that it should be corrected.
Chairman Bosell asked if the easement to the east has been taken care of. Mrs. Sonsteby
noted that it has.
City Engineer Schrantz stated that he thought it was vacated at the time the plat was approved.
However, when the Council passed the resolution, it was vacated from Vintage Street to the
east.
David Jablonic, 14269 Woodbine Street N.W. - stated that his concern is what the city plans to
do with the end of Woodbine Street. They would like it to remain as a dead end as children
play out there and they feel that it is safe.
Harry Moberg, 14279 Woodbine Street N.W. - noted that his feelings are the same. He didn't
see any reason in having a big U-turn at the end of that street for the snow plow.
Jim Schrantz explained that Woodbine is a problem area because the snow plow has to back
down the street because there is no place to turn around. If a cul-de-sac is constructed,
that indicates that itJis the end of the street. If you leave it as it is, it means that
the street will be extended. If the easement is vacated, that would mean that Woodbine
Street would be extended in the future.
Mrs. Sonsteby stated that if she will be expected to put in a cul-de-sac, the easement might
as well remain where it is.
After more discussion on the construction of a cul-de-sac at the end of Woodbine, Chairman
Bosell noted that the vacation of the easement and the cul-de-sac are two different issues.
Mrs. Sonsteby stated that she is opposed to having a cul-de-sac there.
~missioner Perry asked if we could just vacate the easement within the plat.
Chairman Bosell noted that we could; however, it would serve no purpose. If we vacate, it
has to be the whole easement or nothing. She also noted that if the Commission feels that
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the cul-de-sac should be constructed we could make a recommendation to the Council that it
be done and they will make the decision.
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Commissioner Spotts asked what the Commission's recommendation was when the original plat
was presented.
Chairman Bosell
never finaled.
same thing when
stated that the intention was to vacate the entire easement. The
The Commission assumed that the easement was vacated and intended
the new plat came in.
plat was
to do the
It was the concensus of the Commission that a memo be sent to the City Council for their
December 6th meeting indicating the following: If it was the Council's intention to vacate
the easement and that it wasr.an oversight that it was not done, Planning and Zoning would
recommend that the entire easement be vacated at this time. If they don't vacate it to the
west because of the Woodbine situation, they should advise the Planning Commission so we can
review it further. We also suggest that the Council discuss the cul-de-sac on the end of
Woodbine and let the Planning Commission know their feelings.
MOTION by Spotts, seconded by Knutson to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously.
MOTION by Spotts, seconded by Knutson that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend
to the City Council approval of a request by Rosella Sonsteby to vacate an easement lying
west of Vintage Street starting in Rosella's~Additionand continuing west for the following
reasons: 1) A public hearing was held; however, most of the discussion centered around the
possibility of constructing a cul-de-sac on Woodbine Street; 2) It would not be detrimental
to the development of additional property;.3) It would clear the title on the plat; 4) the
vacation does not render any property in that area landlocked at this time.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on December 20, 1983.
Bialke-DeGardner Variance (Comm. #11-83-2)
Ben Bialke, 641 - 90th Lane N.E. - stated that they are requesting a variance because of a
problem concerning the former owner of the Bialke-DeGardner Subdivision. One of the lots
they want to build on is not five acres in size. This was discovered when they went to have
the property recorded. The parcel is only about 4-3/4 acres.
MOTION by Spotts, seconded by Perry that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend
to the Ci ty Council approval of a variance requested by Bia 1 ke-DeGardner for the property
known as Tract "A", Bialke-DeGardner Metes and Bounds Subdivi.sion for the following reasons:
l} There are practical difficulties and hardships caused by the characteristics of the land
and not the property owner; 2) A public meeting was held and there was no opposition; 3)
It is necessary because of the meets and bounds requirement of five acres or greater; 4) It
is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on December 20, 1983.
Recess 8:50 - Reconvene 9:03.
r-'dinance 8 Update
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At this time, the Commissioners explained what they felt was the city's philosophy is
concerning development with the concensus being that the city's intention is to be a bedroom
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Commissioner Knutson felt that the two could be mixed.
Commissioner Spotts felt that if the city wanted big corporations like Control Data to locate
in Andover, they could get them out here.
Commissioner Perry stated that in talking to people in the community, most of them moved out
here because of the rural atmosphere. They moved here because it is a bedroom community and
they would like it to stay that way. She also felt that the big corporations like Control
Data would be looking at the first tier suburbs (Roseville, Blaine, etc.) before they look
at Andover. The companies looking at Andover would be those that don't have the status of
a Control Data.
Chai,rman Bosell felt that the highway system serving Andover is a problem for commercial
deve 1 opment.
The secretary will retype those sections of the ordinance that have been reviewed and changed
and mail them out to the Commissioners prior to the next meeting. Further discussion on the
update will be on the agenda for December 13th.
MOTION by Knutson to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 11:10 P.M.
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Vicki Volk
Commission Secretary
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