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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarch 8, 1983 o o 0 e<<, 01 ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 8, 1983 AGENDA Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes l. 2. Comm. #2-83-2 3. Comm. #2-83-5 4. Comm. #2-83-3 5. Comm. #2-83-4 o Rosella Sonsteby Sketch ~lan Gloyd Boyum Lot Split Al Bloomquist Variance Ordinance 8 Amendment Public Hearing Ordinance 10 Amendment Public Hearing o o 0 e<<, 05 ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING t1ARCH 8, 1983 mNUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman d'Arcy Bosell at 7:33 P.M., Tuesday, March 8,1983 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, Minnesota. Commissioners Present: Knutson, Perry, Rogers, Schreiner, Spotts Commissioners Absent: Apel Also Present: Rosella Sonsteby; Mr. & Mrs. Rick Davis Approval of Minutes February 22, 1983 MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Knutson to approve the minutes of February 22, 1983 as written. Motion carried on a 4 yes, 2 present (Perry, Spotts) vote. Rosella Sonsteby Sketch Plan Rosella Sonsteby, 4151 - 141st Avenue N.W. - stated that in addition to her sketch plan, she would like to talk to the Commission about manufactured housing. Chairman Bosell noted that after the Bloomquist variance the Commission would discuss that item. Mrs. Sonsteby explained that the property she is platting is on the west side of Auditor's Subdivision 82. It will consist of 6 lots plus an outlot, which will be attached to John Johanson's property (14349 Xenia Street). Mrs. Sonsteby noted that there are a lot of big oak trees in the proposed park and she wants a stipulation agreement that if the city cuts down the trees, she can have the wood. Chairman Bosell didn't think the city could make that stipulation; once you dedicate park property it belongs to the city. It was noted that Mrs. Sonsteby could come to the city to get a tree cutting permit. Mrs. Sonsteby noted that Good Value Homes and John Thomsen, in exchange for park land in their plats, are contributing money towards her park, which is why the park is 13.7 acres. Chairman Bosell stated that Lot 1 is more than twice the size of the average lot and will require a variance if left that size. She then noted that in order to have the 10 foot strip indicated as Outlot A attached to Mr. Johanson's property Mrs. Sonsteby will have to come in for a lot split. This should be done at the same time as the preliminary plat. Mrs. Sonsteby asked if the cul-de-sac is the correct size as she didn't want any mistakes on the plat. Chairman Bosell stated that it has to have a 60 foot radius. Chairman Bosell asked Mrs. Sonsteby how much land she is platting at this time. Mrs. Sonsteby replied that she did not know. Chairman Bosell asked Mrs. Sonsteby if she is willing to r-J;ed the 13.7 acre park to the city as part of the plat as it is not necessary to have that ,--,uch park land for this plat. Mrs. Sonsteby noted that she is willing to do that as long as Good Value Homes and John Thomsen live up to their part of the agreement. U Regular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting March 8, 1983 - Minutes Page 2 'Sonsteby Sketch Plan, Cont.) , .j (j Chairman Bose11 told Mrs. Sonsteby that she should ask Caine and O'Malley what the total acreage of this plat is. She should also make sure that the City Council is aware that she is deeding the 10 foot Outlot A to Mr. Johanson. Chairman Bose11 also noted that the Council is going to question Lot 1 because it is much larger than the other lots and the legalities as far as the park land. Commissioner Rogers noted that the Council may ask that 143rd Avenue be extended. Mrs. Sonsteby felt that when Bruce Hay develops his mobile home park he will probably dedicate park land adjacent to her park. The secretary was asked to have this sketch plan added to the Council agenda for February 15, 1983 if possible. Gloyd Boyum Lot Split (Comm. #2-83-2) Rick Davis, 9280 University Avenue - noted that he is purchasing the lot being split off for the purpose of building a house. Chairman Bose11 reminded Mr. Davis of the park dedication fee. She also acre parcel this is being split from does not have any dimensions on it. be put on the drawing. She told Mr. Davis to make sure that when he has it is exactly 300 feet by 363 feet. Mr. Davis asked what would happen if, in the future, the Boyums decide to put a road in on the west side of his lot and take 30 feet of his property for the road. He would then end up with only 270 feet of frontage. noted that the 40 These will have to the property surveyed Chairman Bose11 stated that they cannot include his property unless he gives them permission to do so. Commissioner Perry asked Mr. Davis if he had contacted the County Highway Department regarding the placement of his driveway. Mr. Davis stated that he was not aware that he had to do that but that he would contact them. Commissioner Knutson asked if Ordinance 10 should be considered for this lot split. Chairman Bose11 stated no; however, the Boyums cannot split the property any further for another three years. MOTION by Perry, seconded by Schreiner that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a lot split requested by Gloyd Boyum for the property described as 'All that part of the NE quarter of Section 14, Township 32, Range 24 lying on the westerly side of the right of way of the Eastern Railway Company (except parcel #0200)'. Reasons for approval are: 1) A public discussion was held and Mr. and Mrs. Davis represented the Boyums; there was no opposition to the lot split. 2) The lot which would be created is a 2! acre parcel. 3) Mr. Davis will check with the Anoka County Highway Department regarding placement of a culvert and positioning of the driveway. 4) The lot split is in accordnace with Ordinance 40B and is compliant with the planned development for the rural area of the city in 2! acre lots. 5) The lot split is subject to a $100 park dedication fee. " I , "lotion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on April 5, 1983. A1 Bloomquist Variance (Comm. #2-83-5) The secretary informed the Commission that Mr. Bloomquist is in Florida and he asked that this Regular Planning and Zoning March 8, 1983 - Minutes Page 3 U Commission Meeting o \ '-,rlloomquist Variance, Cont.) item be rescheduled for April 12, 1983. Commissioner Knutson questioned the driveway on this property and if we can govern the type of surface. The way it is now, with a pond on each side, it could be covered by water if there is a lot of rain. The secretary was asked to check with -the Building Inspector to see whether a culvert should be required under that driveway. Rosella Sonsteby, 4151 - 141st Avenue N.W. - stated that according to some information she received from the Metropolitan Council, what the city has done about manufactured housing is illegal. Chairman Bosell explained that we are within the law. The law says that we can set design standards for manufactured housing. Commissioner Schreiner noted that the law simply says we cannot discriminate'against manu- factured housing. Discussion centered on the roof pitch with Mrs. Sonsteby noting that a 4/12 roof pitch will not fit under a bridge when the housing unit is transported to the site. Ordinance 8 Amendment Public Hearing (Comm. #2-83-3) Chairman Bosell opened the public hearing. She noted that the amendment will change the minimum lot size in the R-4 district from 13,000 square feet to 11,400 square feet. The width will be change'd from 85 feet to 80 feet. Two family homes will be required to be 150 percent of single family lot size and dimensions and such lots will be allowed only in new plats. Commissioner Rogers asked if this amendment should include the minimum depth required. Chair- man Bosell stated that it does not need to be included at this time. We haven't decided as yet if we want to change the depth. At the present time the ordinance requires 130 feet as a minimum lot depth. The purpose of this amendment is to allow for lower costs in building a home. Commissioner Spotts asked why we are amending the ordinance now rather than waiting until we are done updating the entire ordinance. Chairman Bosell stated it is because Good Value Homes and Mrs. Sonsteby want to plat their property and begin building in this construction season. Commissioner Schreiner asked if the front yard setback is going to be changed as was discussed at our meeting on March 2nd. Chairman Bosell noted that it's 30 feet now and it's proposed to stay at 30 feet. Commissioner Rogers noted that the planners in Coon Rapids are recommending that they change their's to 35 feet. 7mmissioner Spotts felt that if we are amending this ordinance so that Good Value and Mrs. " ~bnsteby can plat and build this year, we should change the setback now if that is what we want. Commissioner Schreiner felt it should be changed to 35 feet. Co~issioners Perry and Knutson o R~gular Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting March 8, 1983 - Minutes Page 4 . 'Ord. 8 Amendment, Cont.) '-- ~~ agreed with Commissioner Schreiner. o Mrs. Sonsteby didn't feel it should be changed to 35 feet. She didn't understand why we would change it. Chairman Bosell noted that it will eliminate the closed in feeling. Also, if a family has two cars and they are parked one behind the other, they extend out to the curb line. It also gives more front yard. Mrs. Sonsteby noted that she feels it is not necessary to have 60 foot roads; 40 foot roads are wide enough. She also stated that the city should allow smaller houses and not require garages. MOTION by Perry, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. Rather than making a motion on this amendment at this time, it was decided to hold the public hearing on Ordinance 10 and make one motion rather than two. Ordinance 10 Amendment Public Hearing (Comm. #2-83-4) Chairman Bosell opened the public hearing. She noted that this amendment deals with lands within the Metropolitan Urban Service Area. It changes the minimum lot size from 13,000 square feet to 11,400 feet with an 80 foot width rather than 85 feet. It also requires corner lots to be a minimum of 90 feet wide with a 20 foot side yard setback. The front yard setback will be changed from 30 feet to 35 feet. MOTION by Spotts, Seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. Commissioner Rogers asked how we are going to figure out what square footage we are going to use on existing plats for vacant lots that someone decides to build on. Chairman Bosell noted that we will have to add up all of the lot sizes and divide by the number of lots. MOTION by Knutson, seconded by Rogers that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of the amendments to Ordinance 8, Section 6.02 and Ordinance 10 and 10C, . Section 9.06 a(l) as presented. Publ ic hearings were held and there was no opposition. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on April 5, 1983. Chairman Bosell reminded the Commissioners that there will be a work session on the update of Ordinance 8 on Tuesday, March 15, 1983 at 7:30 P.M. MOTION by Spotts, seconded by Schreiner to adjourn. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 9:30 P.M. Respectfully submitted, L/", (&~ , icki Vol k , I . , S t - uommlSSlon ecre ary