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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFebruary 25, 1986 r-\ '---- J .r '\ <,.; ,\ ,-.....J lJ CITY of ANDOVER L) REGULAR PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 25, 1986 - AGENDA Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes Swearing-In Ceremony 1. Comm. #10-85-3 2. Cornrn. #1-86-7 Hidden Creek Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Ord. 8 Amendment, Cont. (Density Zoning) /- '\ } '-- -' F \ ',-../' ,', ; ) \.,J lJ CJ CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 25, 1986 - MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Don Jacobson at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, February 25, 1986 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Apel, Jovanovich, Pirkl, Rogers, Vistad Bosell Jim Schrantz, City Engineer; John Peterson, Good Value Homes Approval of Minutes-February 11, 1986 Page 3, Retail Sales, 4th paragraph, 3rd sentence, should read 'We would consider the Special Use Permit....." MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Rogers to approve the minutes of February 11, 1986 as amended. Motion carried. HIDDEN CREEK PRELIMINARY PLAT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #10-85-3) John Peterson, Good Value Homes - stated that several years ago they purchased 188 acres south of Bunker Lake Boulevard and have not been able to develop it because there was no sewer or water service available. Now the city plans to bring sewer and water into the area this summer. The property is now able to be developed to an R-4 density, which is single family residential. Mr. Peterson noted that this parcel is more intensely planned than any parcel they have ever developed. They have received direction from the Park Board, City Council, Planning and Zoning, Anoka County Highway Department, Department of Natural Resources, TKDA, the Corps of Engineers, traffic analysts from TKDA, the City of Coon Rapids and the Watershed Board. One of the primary issues was the proposed relocation of Crooked Lake Bou~avard. The way it is drawn on the plat is satisfactory with the County if the City can get the permits. There is a property owner whose home is in the way and Good Value is look- ing at acquiring the property. Mr. Peterson also noted that the parcel that they have chosen for park property is open with no low land. They worked hard to get lots around the ponds, and lots that back up to the creek so that the people can take a canoe out of their garage and go right down the creek. Good Value has met with Jim Johnson from TKDA and Jim Schrantz and there seems to be some problem with the cul-de-sacs. 136th Lane was put in to eliminate the number of accesses onto the county road. 135th Court is a cul-de-sac because it would have to go through a pond if it was brought through. The first phase of the plat will be the lots around the park. Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing at this time. Leslie Bever, 2380 Bunker Lake Boulevard N.W. - asked what the parcel Regular Planning Co~~~~ian Meeting February 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 2 (Hidden Creek, Cant.) \ ~ ; ~ without a number on it is. Mr. Peterson explained that they will ask that that property be rezoned to commercial. Mr. Bever felt that a commercial piece of property in that area would lower the value of his property. Commissioner Rogers noted that the legend shows there are 177 lots in the plat but he counted 178. He asked if the fire station is going to go in the property shown as park. Mr. Peterson stated that they are leaving it up to the city to decide what they want to do with the park property. Mr. Rogers asked if there will be berming or fencing along Bunker Lake Boulevard. Mr. Peterson stated that it will be bermed. He also noted that they have a disagreement with the Park Board. Good Value has proposed to give the land, grade and seed it, add berms along Bunker and put in posts and cables. The Park Board has given them some conditions that they cannot live with. Mr. Rogers asked if there will be a tot lot in the plat somewhere. Mr. Peterson stated that when they plat the easterly two forty acre parcels they will give land and perhaps there will be a tot lot there. Commissioner Apel noted that his only concern would be getting approval from the DNR to go through the wetland with the road. , DeWayne Olson, enqineer for Good Value - noted that they have had favorable comments from the DNR and the Corps of Engineers. The permits have been applied for. Commissioner Pirkl noted that the idea of having the commercial area next to residential bothers her. Mr. Schrantz noted that the commercial area will need to provide a buffer from the residential area. Mr. Peterson stated that their largest subdivision has an area zoned commercial and they have put fencing around it to buffer it from the residential area. Mr. Jacobson noted that on the legend it should say that the property will be served by municipal sewer and water. Also, the number of lots should be counted to make sure the correct number are shown on the plat. Lots 37 and 38 in Block 4 should be checked to make sure that the front footage requirement is met. Lot 13, Block 4 doesn't look like it will meet the frontage at the setback line. Hidden Creek Court should be Hidden Creek Drive. Mr. Jacobson suggested taking Lots 1 and 2, Block 2 and making them into parking for the park; otherwise there will be a lot of traffic at that intersection with the fire station and park in the same area. The walkway between Lot 7, Block 2 and Lot 7, Block 3 should be widened to 20 feet. Xavis Court should be changed to Xavis Street. Regarding the ponds, Mr. Olson stated that the DNR wants them to keep the water level where it is now. There will be easements for the city to do maintenance on the ponds. Regular Planning Com~ lion Meeting February 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 3 (Hidden Creek, Cont.) ~~ Chairman Jacobson also noted that the plat should indicate where Phase I will be. A letter from the county highway department should be pro- vided stating that they have no problem with the accesses onto the county roads. He also stated that originally 135th Court was a through street and asked if making it a through street again would cause the loss of any lots. Mr. Peterson stated that there was a problem making that corner work with the wetlands and providing enough high land. Mr. Jacobson stated that Lot 48, Block 4 should be checked to make sure it meets the frontage requirements. Also Lot 49 should be checked. He also noted that the setbacks along county roads are different than those for interior lots. That should be indicated on the legend. The width of proposed Crosstown is 50 feet from centerline; he asked if that is the right-of-way. Mr. Olson stated yes, the county agreed with that as it gets greater to the north. Mr. Jacobson explained that when they come in for the commercial piece of property they should ask for a PUD. Diane Nutt, 2410 Bunker Lake Boulevard - asked how eminent domain works. Mr. Schrantz noted that if the developer cannot obtain the property for the street, the city can have it taken by condemnation. However, it is not the city's intention to do that. Cecil Heidelberger, 15955 Nightingale Street N.W. - asked if the property would all be platted within the next year. Mr. Peterson stated no. Commissioner Vistad asked if the trees will be preserved when the streets are put in. Mr. Peterson stated that they are making a substantial effort to preserve all the trees that they can. At this time, the Commission recessed so that the new Commissioners could be sworn in by Mr. Schrantz. Chairman Jacobson noted that the property owner south of the plat needs to be shown. Mr. Schrantz explained the different choices for the north/south collector street noting that the way it is shown on the plat will eliminate a lot of traffic going north on Crosstown from Bunker by the Speedy Market. The Cities of Coon Rapids and Andover have discussed an east/west street going to Hanson; perhaps it will be 133rd Avenue. If that happens, then 133rd Lane should be extended to go out to Verdin Street. He also noted that Hidden Creek Drive is about 512 feet long and will require a variance as it is a cul-de-sac and the maximum length of a cul-de-sac is only 500 feet. The Park Board will have to decide what they want to do with the park. Mr. Jacobson felt that 135th Court should be a through street rather than a cul-de-sac. Commissioner Apel thought that the reason for it being a cul-de-sac is because there is a chance that you could disrupt the water flow in the ponding area. I Mr. Olson noted that the Corps of Engineers has been more restrictive than the DNR as they control all wetlands; they would make it very Regular Planning Coni,,_ j3ion Meeting February 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 4 (Hidden Creek, Cont.) \ j difficult to extend the street. Leslie Bever asked if Good Value gets commercial zoning on the one piece of property would he be able to have his property zoned commercial also. Mr. Jacobson stated that he would have to apply for a rezoning and go through the same process as Good Value. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. Chairman Jacobson noted that the areas needing fill need to be shaded on the plat. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of Hidden Creek being developed by Good Value Homes, legally described as: 'The Northeast Quarter of the Southeast Quarter, except the North 264 feet of the East 165 feet thereof; The Southeast Quarter of the Southeast Quarter; Lot 12, Auditor's Subdivision No. 137; That part of Lot 1, Auditor's Subdivision No. 137 that lies Easterly of the following described line; Commencing at the Northwest corner of Lot 1, said point being the Northwest corner of the Northwest Quarter of the Southeast Quarter of Section 33, Township 32, Range 24; thence East along the North line of said Lot 1 a distance of 690 feet to the actual point of beginning of the line to be described; thence South at right angles to said North line a distance of 290 feet; thence west at right / angles to last course a distance of 120 feet; thence South at right angles to last course a distance of 275 feet; thence Southeasterly deflecting 16 degrees 30 minutes to the left for a distance of 784 feet and to the South line of said Lot 1 and there terminating; all above in Section 33, Township 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota.', for the following reasons: 1) It is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; 2) the plat has been reviewed by the Andover Review Committee; 3) The Anoka County Highway Department has reviewed the plat; 4) We have received the Park Board recommendation; 5) The plat meets City ordinances with a variance for Hidden Creek Drive, which is a cul-de-sac that exceeds the maximum 500 foot length. It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was no opposition. It should also be noted that when Phase II is ready to be platted, the developer needs to go before the Council. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on March 20,1986. ORDINANCE 8 AMENDMENT, CONT. (COMM. #1-86-7) Chairman Jacobson explained that the City Council suggested that we have a new zoning district to deal with cluster zoning by PUD. This area will be known as an R-l transition area. The semi public space could be kept in the ownership of the landowner. The Council has provided us with a map showing which area of the city will be zoned R-l Transition Area. ) MOTION by Apel, seconded by Rogers to instruct the secretary to insert \ j 1 Regular Planning Commission Meeting February 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 5 / (Ord. 8 Amendment, Cont.) a public hearing notice in the newspaper for this item. Motion carried unanimously. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel to adjourn. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 9:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, U~ Vicki Volk Commission Secretary )