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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMarch 25, 1986 : ) '--- /-, o ':~) u l) CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 25, 1986 - AGENDA Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes 1. Comm. #3-86-1 2. Comm. #3-86-2 3. Comm. #12-85-5 4 . Comm. #1-86-7 5 . Batson Variance L. Johnson/Park Construction Mining Permit, Public Hearing Universal Properties Sketch Plan, Cont. Ord. 8 Amendment Public Hearing, Cont. Ordinance Discussions Adjournment u u o CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMMISSION MEETING MARCH 25, 1986-MINUTES The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Jacobson at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, March 25, 1986 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commmissioners Absent: Also Present: Apel, Bosell, Jovanovich, Pirkl, Rogers, Vistad None Dave Almgren, Building Official; William Batson; Chuck Rugroden, Park Construction; Chuck Cook; others #3-86-1 BATSON VARIANCE (COMM. William Batson - stated that he owns three parcels of land. The frontages of the parcels are 264 feet, 80 feet and 30 feet. He obtained building permits from the city to build garages on two of the lots. He would like to have the property split so he can do something with it. Chairman Jacobson suggested that Mr. Batson have new legal descriptions drawn up, present them to the City Council asking for permission to change the lot lines. Mr. Jacobson felt that it is up to the City Council to approve the moving of the lot lines as it is not a lot split. r,\ ',,---, Commissioner Bosell noted that he has some frontage requirements to meet. The one parcel only has ~O feet of frontage the way Mr. Batson has it proposed to be split. She asked Mr. Batson who owns the property to the west. Mr. Batson stated that it is owned by Bob's Auto Parts. Chairman Jacobson asked if there are any other structures on the property other than what is shown on the survey. Mr. Batson noted that there are two other structures. Commissioner Bosell suggested sending a memo to the City Council that this is simply a rearrangement of interior lot lines and that the zoning requires 100 feet of frontage at the setback line. Mr. Jacobson stated that he should redo the legals, have it put on the City Council agenda and request a variance from the platting procedure. If the Council denies the request, Mr. Batson will have to come in with a plat and follow the normal procedure. The following memo will be sent to the City Council: "We have reviewed Mr. Batson's request and feel that it is not within our jurisdiction to make that decision since he is moving interior lot lines. The property is zoned GI and the minimum lot size requirement is 24,000 square feet, with 150 feet of depth and the minimum frontage is 100 feet at the setback line." () ~~ L. JOHNSON/PARK CONSTRUCTION MINING PERMIT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #3-86-2) Chuck Ruqroden, Park Construction -stated that they have a need for sand in Regular Planning Com.. "ion Meeting March 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 2 ) (Johnson/Park Mining Permit, Cant.) Fridley and they contacted Leroy Johnson to see if he would be interested in having them mine the sand from his property. The area that will be mined is 800' x 600'. Mr. Rugroden noted that they have shown on the grading plan what they intend to do. Once they are finished, you won't know the area was ever mined. They are taking the knob off the top of a hill. Chairman Jacobson noted that according to the drawings, only 50,000 cubic yards of sand is being mined. Mr. Rugroden noted that they are taking the topsoil off the hill and bringing in peat to put on when they're through. They will not go below 900. Commissioner Rogers asked if they will be going out to Bunker to Hanson Boulevard and down to the freeway. Mr. Rugroden stated yes. Ms. Bosell noted that the application form requires that a security bond be posted and a certificate of insurance be provided. She asked if they have been provided to the city. Mr. Rugroden stated no, that he understood that they don't need to provide them until the mining permit has been approved. At this time, Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Helen Franz, 16663 Ward Lake Drive - asked exactly where in Section 36 this will occur. Dave Almgren showedd Ms. Franz on the map where the property is located. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Pirkl to close the public hearing. carried unanimously. Motion MOIION~- by Apel, seconded by Rogers that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a Special Use Permit requested by Leroy Johnson and Park Construction to remove the sand as shown on the grading plan presented from the area legally described as 'The West one-half of the Northeast one-quarter of Section, 36, Township 32, Range 24' for the following reasons: 1) removal of the sant is in conformance with City ordinances; 2) removal will leave the remaining land in a buildable condition. It should be noted that 1) a public hearing was held and there was no opposition; 2) comopletion date will be May 31, 1986; 3) not more than 100,000 cubic yards of sand will be removed; 4) the traffic pattern will be from Bunker Lake Boulevard to Hanson Boulevard and south to the freeway; 5) maximum excavation will still be within 6~' of the water table as per ordinance; 6) excavation and restoration will be per the grading plan. Approval of the Special Use Permit is contingent upon the receipt of the bonds and certificate of insurance. Motion carried unanimously. 1986. This will go to the City Council on hApril 1, ORDINANCE 8 AMENDMENT PUBLIC HEARING, CONT. (COMM. #1-86-1) Commissioner Bosell noted that she asked the City Attorney to determine how the open space in a cluster development should be dealt with. Mr. ~ / Regular Planning Commission Meeting March 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 3 (Ord. 8 Amendment, Cant.) ~ ) Hawkins felt that restrictive covenants could be put on the open space and that would be tied to the title of the property. Even if the land owner changed, the covenant would go with the land and not the owner. The City Council could rescind the covenant. She also noted that Mr. Hawkins felt the proposed language for the amendment was appropriate. Chairman Jacobson noted that the intent is to allow land to be developed into small lots as long as the number of lots does not exceed the number of lots that would be allowed in a 2~ acre plat. There would be a lot of green space left over and according to the ordinance, that green space would go into public ownership. That is what we are trying to get rid of. We don't want the owner to sell the property and have another developer come in and develop into small lots. The Council was concerned that if large lots are platted and sewer comes in, the assessments on the large lots would be extemely high. They came up with the idea that they should plat small lots but not have the crowding that comes with it. They could have 10 smaller lots and have green space left over. Ken Heil, 1425 Andover Boulevard - felt that by clustering you are causing contimation of sewers. The City Council is forcing the people on the larger lots to get sanitary sewer. Commissioner Bosell suggested the following language for the amendment: Oevelopment of said open space shall be prohibited until such time as public utilities are available to service such open space. Such develop- ment restrictions shall be evidenced by the recording of a Restrictive Covenant which shall run with the title of said open space property.' / Chairman Jacobson felt there should be a square footage requirement in the ordinance also. Dick Schneider, 1343 Andover Bouelvard - stated that he has heard so much about the future. Mr. Schneider feels that consideration should be shown to the people who are already living there. If this ordinance was changed six months ago he would not have sold this property. He hoped that the Planning Commission would recommend to the Council that it stays like it is (2~ acre lots). He believes that it is the job of the Commission to be concerned and listen to the people already living in the area. There are a lot of people who have 5 and 10 acre parcels that have lived there for years. If the requirement stays at 2~ acre lots there will never be a need for city sewer and water. Commissioner Rogers noted that looking at Hartfiel's Estates, he feels that they will need the sewer and water first. Mr. Schneider noted that Hartfiel's was platted before the zoning ordinance was adopted and the Town board said they could only build on every other lot. Gene Paschen, 14632 Orake Street N.W. - felt that 2~ acre lots are good and the area should be left that way. Harvey Kuklok, 1533 - 146th Lane N.W. - stated that he bought his property because it was country living and suggested that the 2~ acre requirement stay. He is opposed to the amendment. \ Regular Planning Cor. /3ion Meeting March 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 4 COrd. 8 Amendment, Cant.) , ) Bob Erickson - 146th Lane stated he is for 2Y, acre lots. Rita Burgoyne, 1522 - 146th Lane N.W. - opposed to the amendment. Tom Adler, 1480 Andover Boulevard N.W. - stated that he is opposed to the ordinance amendment. He also stated that it would be nice to keep the area without sewer and water for as long as possible. MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Jovanovich to close the public hearing. carried. Motion Commissioner Bosell noted that the numbers we could use would be floor area for home 960 square feet, lot would be one acre is size and lot width would be less than 100 feet. Commissioner Jovanovich agreed with Ms. Bosell's suggestions regarding lot size. Commissioner Vistad stated that he would be more in favor if we're concerned with sewer and water coming in, to have a plat with one acre parcels with one person owning two parcels. Then if sewer and water comes in they could sell the other parcel. MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Pirkl that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council adoption of an amendment to Ordinance 8 and include therein the R-l Transition Area as presented in the memo dated March 21, 1986 and further amended on March 25, 1986. In Section 6.02 of Ordinance 8, the Transition Area would be 39,000 square feet for lot size; floor area 960 square feet; lot width 165 feet; side yard setback from the street, 30 feet; side yard setback on interior lots 10 feet; rear yard 50 feet; maximum height 35 feet; lot coverage 20%; lot depth 150 feet; front yard setback 40 feet; front yard setback along a major arterial 50 feet; and garage requirement of 440 square feet. Vote on Motion: Apel, Jacobson. the City Council Yes - Pirkl, Jovanovich, Bosell; No - Vistad, Rogers, Motion failed on a 3 yes, 4 no vote. This will go to on April 15, 1986. UNIVERSAL PROPERTIES SKETCH PLAN, CONT. CCOMM. #12-85-5) Chuck lots. lots. Cook, developer - presented a sketch plan showing the small size He stated that the only swamp land is the back portion of the deep On the smaller lots, the developed part is on the higher ground. Chairman Jacobson noted that Phase II will have to be looked at carefully in regard to street alignment. Mr. Cook stated that Phase II will have 147th Lane, 148th Avenue and Crane Street. Ms. Bosell noted that 148th Lane could be changed to 60 feet; however, Bluebird Street should be 66 feet to tie into existing Bluebird Street. She asked what the average lot size will be. Tom O'Malley, surveyor for the developer, stated it will be close to 39,000 square feet. - / Regular Planning Commission Meeting March 25, 1986 - Minutes Page 5 (Universal Properties, Cant.) , ) , , ; Mr. Jacobson asked if it would be possible to extend Zilla Street out to Xeon Street. Mr. Cook stated that the owner of the property between his plat and Xeon Street would not agree to that proposal. He stated the he would provide an easement for the extension of Zilla Street in the event it would ever go through. Ms. Bosell suggested that instead of putting a bubble on the end of Zilla Street, it should be brought to the property line and have a temporary turnaround. GOODRIDGE ACRES PRELIMINARY PLAT Tom O'Malley presented a new drawing of the property showing some changes. He noted that variances will be needed for frontage. There was general discussion on the plat with it being noted that the street can be 60 feet rather than 66 feet. This will give the lots more square footage. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel to adjourn. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M. \ Respectfully submitted, J U~ Vicki Volk Commission Secretary !