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HomeMy WebLinkAboutApril 8, 1986 ~ \ V '\ \...J :~ u u CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING APRIL 8, 1986 - AGENDA Call to order - 7:30 P.M. Approval of Minutes l. Comrn. #2-86-1 Goodridge Acres Preliminary Plat, Cont. 2 . Comrn. #3-86-3 Esther Olson Sketch Plan 3 . Comrn. #3-86-4 Round Barn Special Use Permit Public Hearing 4. Comrn. #1-86-5 Ordinance 8 Amendment Public Hearing (Corner Lots) 5. Comrn. #3-86-5 Sign Ordinance Discussion 6. Comrn. #3-86-6 Ordinance 8, Section 8.23(4) Discussion 7 . Ordinance Discussion Adjournment /- \ ,---) o 8 CJ u CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-MINUTES APRIL 8, 1986 The regulsrly scheduled Andover Plsnning and Zoning Commission meeting wss cslled to order by Chsirmsn Jscobson st 7:30 P.M., Tuesdsy, April 8, 1986 st the Andover City Hsll, 1685 Crosstown Boulevsrd NW, Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Apel; Jovsnovich; Pirkl; Rogers Bosell; Vistsd Tam o'Mslley; Glen Geving; Esther Olson; Cathy Adolfson; others APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MARCH 11, 1986 MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Jovsnovich to spprove the minutes of Msrch 11, 1986 ss written. Motion carried an s 4 yes, 1 present (Apel) vote. MARCH 25, 1986 MOTION by Apel, seconded by Pirkl to spprove the minutes of Msrch 25, 1986 ss written. Motion csrried unsnimously. ORDINANCE 8 AMENDMENT PUBLIC HEARING (CoMM. #1-86-5) Chsirmsn Jscobson opened the public hesring. MOTION by Pirkl, regulsr meeting. seconded by Apel to csrry this item over to the next Motion carried. GOODRIDGE ACRES PRELIMINARY PLAT (CoMM. #2-86-1) Tam o'Mslley, Csine snd Associstes - ststed thst there wss some concern regsrding the future street alignment, psrticulsrly to the north and Eidelweiss to the south. Mr. Wstson to the north would have s hsrd time subdividing his property. The plst hss been revised to include s section of Eidelweiss from the south plst boundsry to the north plst boundsry. Also, Eidelweiss snd Hesther hsve been connected with s smsll section of 176th Avenue. The lot lines of Lots 1 snd 2, Block 1 hsve been chsnged to provide more frontsge to Lot 1, Black 1. Three vsrisnces far frontsge would be required: Lot 1, Block 1; Lot 3, Block 3; snd Lot 4, Block 3. Commissioner Pirkl felt thst wster would be drsining into someone else's property. Mr. o'Mslley ststed thst there will be s slight incresse to the existing drsinsge. He slso noted thst the Psrk Bosrd hss requested money in lieu of land. Regular Planning C_. ission Meeting April 8, 1986 - Minutes Page 2 ~ ~ (Goodridge Acres, Cont.) Commissioner Apel noted that the Andover Review Committee brought up the problem of Eidelweiss and we should consider if we are going to extend it. It was also mentioned that this plat does not allow access to the Carson property. Glen Geving - stated that the only way they can come up with a solution for the Carson property is to give him some of their land. He noted that he offered to sell Mr. Carson one of their lots so he gould get access. Mr. Jacobson asked if there will be restrictive covenants. Mr. Geving stated that they will probably have the same covenants as Wobegon Woods. Mr. Jacobson said that Eidelweiss to the south side of the property should have a temporary turn-around. On Lots 2 and 3 of Block 4 it says 'proposed drainage easements', The word 'proposed' should be taken off of the plat. A variance will be needed for the length of the cul- de-sac. Also, Lots 3 and 4 of Block 2 and Lot 1, Block 1 will require variances because of the width. Somewhere on the plat it should state that footing drain tile may be required. Mr. Watson - asked which way the water will be draining. Tom O'Malley explained that it will drain east to the pond and some to a low area in Wobegon Woods. / MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Jovanovich to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Pirkl that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of Goodridge Acres being developed by Glen Geving and Walter Johnson for the following reasons: 1) A public hearing was held; there was no public opposition; 2) The plat is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; 3) The plat has been reviewed by the Andover Review Committee and the City Engineer; 4) The Park Board has recommended cash in lieu of land; 5) The plat meets the city ordinances with the following variances: a) Lot 1, Block 1 and Lots 3 and 4, Block 2 for lot width pursuant to Ordinance 8, Section 6.02 (Lots 3 and 4, Block 2 will appear as Lots 1 and 2 on the final plat); b) A variance will be granted for the length of Eidelweiss, Heather Street and 176th Avenue that will terminate with a temporary turnaround. In order that it will be apparent to people purchasing lots, noted on the plat that footing drain tile may be required as engineer has determined this is a perched water table. it will be the city Motion carried unanimously. 1986. This will go to the City Council on May 6, ESTHER OLSON SKETCH PLAT (COMM. #3-86-3) Esther Olson - stated that the sketch she presented to the City Council had one less lot than the sketch plan before the Planning Commission. The Council encouraged her to put in one more lot. Also, the previous ) ) Regular Planning Commission Meeting April 8, 1986 - Minutes Page 3 (E. Olson Sketch Plan) plan had two cul-de-sacs which the Council did not like. been eliminated. They have Bhairman ~acobson asked why 153rd Lane stops 56 feet short of the property line. Mrs. Olson stated she ended it there because the lot had 300 feet of Frontage. It was noted that the street will have to be extended to the property line. Discussion centered on whether there should be an east/west road in the plat or a north/south road. It was the concensus that an east/west road would be best for future development. Chairman ~acobson suggested that Mrs. Olson talk to the City Engineer regarding the radius on the corners. ROUND BARN SPECIAL USE PERMIT (COMM. #3-86-4) Chairman ~acobson noted that this is a business that has been operating in an R-4 zone. Cathy Adolfson, one of the owners of the Round Barn - stated that prior to opening the Round Barn she spoke to the former City Clerk and was told that there was no problem with them operating this business because it was temporary. Mrs. Adolfson said that they opened the business and then last summer or fall they received a letter from the city. Mr. ~acobson noted that the City Council and the City Attorney felt that the best way to handle this would be by Special Use Permit. He also noted that everyone agrees that the former City Clerk provided some bad information. Mrs. Adolfson noted that this is a consignment operation; everything belongs to someone else. Commmissioner Pirkl asked why they didn't want a rezoning rather than a Special Use Permit. Mrs. Adolfson stated that the owner of the property, George Adolfson, does not want to rezone the property at this time. Chairman ~acobson opened the public hearing. Commissioner ~ovanovich asked if the parking is adequate. Mrs. Adolfson noted that there is parking in the back which will accommodate 15 to 20 cars and there is also parking around the barn. Mr. Jacobson asked if the Round Barn is on the historical register. Mrs. Adolfson stated yes, and explained that because it's on the register, you can't make any significant structural changes. It was on the register long before the antique and craft business was opened. Mr. Jacobson asked what the hours of operation are. Mrs. Adolfson stated that they are open on Thursdays from 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and Regular Planning Co~nission Meeting April 8, 1986 - Minutes Page 4 '--. ) (Round Barn, Cont.) on Fridays and Saturdays from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. During the Christmas Holidays, they are open an extra day. Mr. Jacobson suggested that the following conditions should apply to the Special Use Permit is it is recommended for approval: 1) No increased use of floor space; 2) no outside sales; 3) Parking - 1 space for every 150 square feet of retail space pursuant to Ordinance 8, Section 8.08; 4) Goods to be only of craft, antique or similar nature; 5) Subject to the approval of the Fire Department and the Building Official; 6) The sign should be limited to the existing sign; 7) A stop sign should be installed coming out of the driveway; 8) No exterior storage. MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Jovanovich to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Jovanovich, seconded by Apel that the Andover Planning and Zoning commission recommend to the City Council approval of a Special Use Permit as requested by George Adolfson to operate a gift and antique business known as the Round Barn located at 3331 Bunker Lake Boulevard N.W., for the following reasons: 1) It will not be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 2) It will not cause serious traffic congestion; 3) It will not depreciate surrounding property values; 4) It is in harmony with the general purpose and intent of the zoning ordinance. A public hearing was held and there was no opposition. It should be noted that the hours of operation will be Thursdays from 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and Fridays and Saturdays from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. The Special Use Permit will be subject to the following conditions: 1) No increased use of floor space; 2) No outside sales; 3) Parking - per Ordinance 8, Section 8.08; 4) Goods to be only of craft, antique or similar nature; 5) subject to the approval of the Fire Department and the Building Official; 6) The sign shall should be limited to the existing sign; 7) A stop sign shall be installed at the end of the driveway; and 8)No exterior storage will be allowed. The City Council is requested to look at hooking this property to the city sewer system. It should be noted that Cathy Adolfson had the authority to speak for George Adolfson, the owner of the property. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on May 6, 1986. Steve Nemeth - stated that he would like to develop his property on Crooked Lake Boulevard where his store was prior to it burning down. He presented the Council with a sketch plan last week and they said it should be fine. Mr. Nemeth was instructed to come back with a preliminary plat. The rezoning procedure will be checked because the property is now zoned Neighborhood Business. Ordinance Discussion Several ordinance violations in the city were mentioned. ~ ) Regular Planning Commission Meeting April 8, 1986 - Minutes Page 5 SIGN ORDINANCE DISCUSSION (COMM. #3-86-5) This item will be on the next regular agenda. ORDINANCE 8, section 8.23 (4) DISCUSSION (COMM. #3-86-6) This item will be on the next regular agenda. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Rogers to adjourn. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 8:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ~~ Vicki Volk, Commission Secretary 1