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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMay 13, 1986 " ') '-..J " '] '-/ ~-) l~ L~ CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MAY 13, 1986 - AGENDA Call to Order - 7:30 P.M. l. Comm. #4-86-3 2. Comm. #4-86-4 3 . Comm. #4-86-5 4 . Comm. #4-86-6 5 . Comm. #4-86-7 6 . Comm. #4-86-8 7. Comm. #4-86-9 8. Comm. #3-86-3 9. Comm. #3-86-5 Adjournment Menkveld Company Rezoning Public Hearing L.B. Carlson Amended Special Use Permit Public Hearing Woodland Terrace 2nd Addition Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Woodland Terrace 3rd Addition Preliminary Plat Public Hearing Woodland Meadows Sketch Plan Terry Hanson Special Use Permit Public Hearing Continental Development Special Use Permit Public Hearing Esther Olson Sketch Plan Ordinance 8, Section 8.07 (Signs) l-.J l~ , ') ~ CITY of ANDOVER REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-MINUTES MAY 13, 1986 The Regularly Scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to order by Chairman Jacobson at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, May 13, 1986 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Commissioners Absent: Also Present: Apel, Bosell, Jovanovich, Pirkl, Rogers, Vistad None Gilbert Menkveld; Lawrence Carlson; Terry Hanson; Chuck Cook; Esther Olson; others APPROVAL OF MINUTES - APRIL 22, 1986 MOTION by Apel, seconded by Jovanovich to approve the minutes of April 22, 1986 as written. TERRY HANSON SPECIAL USE PERMIT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #4-86-8) Shad Brand - stated that they are requesting a special use permit to put in a car wash. ~ Chairman Jacobson stated that the area proposed for the car wash is in the area zoned Shopping Center. The property is across the street from Bill's Superette. They are applying under Ordinance 8, Section 7.03 and Section 5.03. There are two items to this application - one is the Special Use Permit for the car wash and the other is a request for a variance. Commissioner Bosell- explained where the car wash will be located. The proposal is to put in a self serve car wash and as the demand increases, the proposal is to extend to the north. This will be an 8 bay car wash. It is being built by the same people who have the Typhoon Car Wash on 7th Avenue and Coon Rapids Boulevard. The variance being requested is for the front yard setback; the ordinance requires 40 feet from the property line but in order to do what they want, they are requesting that the front yard setback be only 30 feet. This variance request will not put the structure in front of the homes to the east as the front yard setback in Northglen is 30 feet. They plan to have two vacuum stations, a vending and equipment area, There will be two points of entry off 140th. The rear yard setback is 10 feet. There will be a berm on the east, perhaps with plantings. .~-j Chairman Jacobson explained that there are certain uses permitted by ordinance in a Shopping Center District. Those include medical offices, restaurants, etc. A car wash is not a permitted use; however, it can be allowed in a shopping center when 25,000 square feet of retail floor space has been constructed. Bill's Superette and the strip mall meet that criteria. Some of the things that the Planning Commission has to consider are the affect the building will have on surrounding properties, the effect on scenic views, traffic, etc, , / ~~ Regular Planning Commission Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 2 (T. Hanson Special Use Permit, Cont.) At this time Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Tim Casey, 3517 - 140th Lane N.W. - stated that he lives two houses away from this site. He noted that they have enough problems without a car wash. There is an extreme traffic problem in their area. There are a lot of young school children and there is a problem now with the traffic from the liquor store and Bill's Superette. He also noted that there are kids hanging around the stores after they close. Mr. Casey stated that they moved out here to be in a semi-country setting. He felt that a car wash would depreciate their property values and that it would be a detriment to the neighborhood. Larry Banhorn, 14058 Silverod Street N.W. - He stated that he is opposed because he lives behind Bill's Superette and from 12:00 midnight to 4:00 a.m. there have been cars in the store's parking lot with people in them drinking. If they put the car wash in, there will be another hangout for the kids. James Norman, 3503 - 140th Lane N.W. - stated that he is against it because of the traffic congestion and the fact that there are a lot of accidents in that area. I Richard Martin - 3552-141st Lane N.W. - stated that they can hardly keep the paper from the stores picked up now and with a car wash they will have oil cans, etc. to pick up also. If it's a self service car wash no one will be watching it at all. He also noted that they were told a small professional building would be on that lot. He does not want the car wash if it is self service; it would be better if it were a full service car wash. Bonnie Casey, 3517 - 140th Lane N.W. - concerned with the traffic. She stated that she works next to the Typhoon Car Wash and they don't keep theri property clean, Shad Brand - stated that they have plenty of off-street parking and traffic should not be a problem. He noted that he owns a car wash in Hopkins and he doesn't have kids hanging around. The proposed building will cost about $400,000 and there will be someone who will be checking the car wash three or four times a day. As far as the traffic, if it's zoned Shopping Center, he didn't feel that it would be any differnet than any other building. Mr. Martin - Asked if someone would be there three or four times a day to pick up the money or to clean pu the building. He felt that someone should police it. Mrs. Casey - felt that there will be a lack of police protection. Terry Hanson - stated that the car wash would be open the same hours / as Bill's Superette. ) ~ ) Regular Planning Commission Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 3 (T. Hanson Special Use Permit, Cont.) Melvin Kitzberqer - stated that his house will be 10 feet from his house. James Norman - asked if the people will enter and exit from 140th Lane. Chairman Jacobson stated that they will, Larry Banhorn noted that there is a lot of speeding on 140th Lane. Mrs. Casey - said that she asked to have the city put up a sign that says "Slow - children at play" or "Park" and the city said that they could not put one up. Mr. Jacobson noted that the City Council has received a petition to put stop lights at that intersection. Commissioner Jovanovich felt that a car wash would generate more traffic on Round Lake Boulevard. Commissioner Vistad asked what the noise factor would be for the proposed future car wash and when it would be built. Mr. Brand said that he didn't know what the noise factor would be and that the expansion would occur in one to two years. Mr. Vistad stated that Round Lake Boulevard. for the car wash. his only concern would be traffic on 140th and He asked what the volume of business would be Mr. Brand did ot know how many cars a day would be going through the wash but guessed it would be about 50. Mr. Vistad asked if there would be any kind of barrier between the car wash and the property to the north. Mr. Brand said there would be some kind of plantings or berm. Commissioner Pirkl asked what they would charge for a car wash. Mr. Brand noted that it would cost about $1.25. Ms. Pirkl noted that at 50 cars per day at $1.25 each, they would not make it. Commissioner Rogers asked Mr. Brand if they actually own the property. Mr. Brand stated that they have a purchase agreement that is contingent upon the approval of the Special Use Permit. Wayne Anderson, Rademacher and Associates - stated that they are the owners of the property and agree with the use proposed. Jim Schrantz, City Engineer - felt that it would be better if the plan was flipped. Commissioner Rogers expressed concern with 140th Lane and Round Lake Boulevard, feeling that we are going to create more problems then we have now. ~J Regular Planning Commission Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 4 '--~ , Commissioner Bosell stated that one concern would be whether there would be a fence similar to what is on the east side of Bil~s Superette. Mr. Brand stated that there will be such a fence. Ms. Bosell asked what would happen if the plan was if the noise would be a problem for the residents. see a problem with the noise. flipped. She asked Mr. Brand didn't Terry Hanson - did not want to flip the plan because the way it is now would prevent headlights from going toward the houses. Mr. Casey - stated that when they moved into Northglen, they were under the impression that that lot would contain an office building, a barber shop, but not a car wash. There are three entrances into that sub- division and there is a problem now with l40th being the main entrance into the subdivision. He felt that the car wash should go further down on Round Lake Boulevard in the shopping center district. Mr. Kitzberger - stated that he was there before Bill's Superette and he is opposed to his property being devalued because someone wants a car wash. Mr. Martin asked how long it would be before they come in with a request for gas pumps. Terry Hanson stated that a provision of the purchase agreement is that they can't have gas pumps. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried unanimously. Chairman Jacobson stated that the Commission can approve this with conditions, they can move to disapprove it or it can be carried over to the next meeting and request the applicant to redesign the plan. Commissioner Bosell asked for clarification on the hours of operation. Mr. Hanson stated that it would possibly be open the same hours as Bill's Superette but probably would only be from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 P.M., 7 days a week. Mr. Kitzberger asked the dimensions of the building. It was noted that it would be 55' x 73' and the future expansion would be 37 feet. Commissioner Bosell stated that the following conditions could be part of the special use permit: Fencing, hours of operation and a yearly review of the operation. She asked if this could be held over for two weeks and have them look at flipping the proposal to alleviate the exit problem on l40th and Round Lake Boulevard. She noted that they meet the ordinance requirements. The Commission needs to deal with the 10' variance request also. ) MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Vistad to continue this item to our next meeting for the purpose of the applicant redrawing the proposal. , ~J Regular Planning Commission Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 5 ~ , ! J '. Discussion: Commissioner Pirkl stated that she would like to see some projections on who many cars they expect every day. Commissioner Jovanovich asked if we could wait to see the reports from the County on the traffic signal. Mr. Jacobson said we would probably not get anything in by the end of the year. Motion carried unanimously. MENKVELD COMPANY REZONING PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #4-86-3) Gilbert Menkveld, Box 547, Anoka, stated that he is requesting a rezoning to single family residential instead of apartments. Chairman Jacobson noted that the property is currently zoned M-l and M-2 which is basically multiple family housing, condos, apartment buildings, etc. As a part of the rezoning a public hearing needs to be held. At this time Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Les Bever, 2380 Bunker Lake Boulevard - asked how many acres Mr. Menkveld is talking about, Mr. Menkveld stated that there are 40 acres, 32 of which are only buildable because of the swamp. / Bob Halek, 13754 Quinn Street N.W. - asked what type of homes we are talking about. Mr. Menkveld explained that he will be selling the lots to builders. However, the homes would be 1100 square feet or bigger and would sell in the mid 80's. Mr. Halek stated that he would be in favor of the rezoning. Steve Rosa, 13818 Quinn Street N.W. - asked if the property would have to get city water and if they do, does their area have to get it. Chairman Jacobson said that Mr. Menkveld's property needs to have city water but that Mr. Rosa's area does not. William Schaefer, 13828 Quinn Street N.W. - stated that he is in favor of single family homes. Mr. Jacobson asked if R-4 zoning is better for the city than M-l and M-2. Within the city right now we only have two areas zoned for apart- ments. One is across the street from the high school and the other is this property and the developed area by the Speedy Market. If you remove Menkveld's property you only have the property off 7th Avenue. Bob Halek stated that he would not want to live next to apartments. Leonard Mattson, 1502 - 146th Lane N.W.- asked what the advantage would be in keeping that area zoned for multiples. Mr. Jacobson stated that as the city grows, there may be a demand for more multiple housing. Regular Planning ~ ~ssion Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minut~~ Page 6 (Menkveld Rezoning, Cont.) ~ I J MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried. Commissioner Bosell noted that the Comprehensive Plans shows this property in the Metropolitan Urban Service Area. The plan deals with the need to provide low and modest cost housing. We far exceeded what we were required to have as far as low and modest cost housing. Commissioner Rogers felt that the zoning is controlled by the market. Right now the trend is for single family housing; when money tightens up, it will go to condos, apartments, etc. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Pirkl that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a request by G. M. Investment Company to rezone the property described as the Southwest one-quarter of the Northwest one-quarter of Section 34, Town- ship 32, Range 24, Anoka County, Minnesota, from M-l and M-2 to R-4 for the following reasons: 1) The proposed will not be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 2) it will not cause serious traffic congestion; 3) it will not seriously depreciate surround- ing property values; 4) the proposed use is in harmony and meets the intent of the zoning ordinance and the comprehensive plan. It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was no opposition. Motion carried on a 6 yes, 1 no (Jacobson) vote. This will go to the City Council on June 3, 1986. / CONTINENTAL DEVELOPMENT SPECIAL USE PERMIT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #4-86-9) Chuck Cook, Coon Rapids - stated that he attempted to plat this land in December. He came in with a 2~ acre plat and the Council requested that he plat it in 1 acre lots. The City Administrator and the Council asked the City Attorney for an opinion in regard to platting this under density zoning. The attorney said that it was within the existing ordinances. Mr. Cook was then requested by the Council to apply for a special use permit to develop this property under density zoning. He noted that sewer and water are a real concern. It was Mr. Cook's opinion that this concern exists whether or not he plats this land, He stated that he is not petitioning for sewer and water and he is not asking for R-4 zoning. He is requesting a special use permit. Chairman Jacobson explained that with denisty zoning, you do not ge~ any more lots than you would under the regular zoning for the area. Mr. Cook could plat 25 lots smaller than 2~ acres. The land that is not platted goes into public or semi-public open space. Mr. Cook also has a request for a variance so the green space will not be given to public use. He would want to reserve it for private use. At this time Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. / Lary Carlson, 17750 Aztec Street N.W. he be asking for this on his property. apply for density zoning. - asked if this is allowed should Mr. Jacobson said that he could , ~ Regular Planning Commission Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 7 ~ J (Continental Development SUP, Cont.) Dick Schneider, 1343 Andover Boulevard N.W. - stated that when he sold this property to Mr. Cook it was with the understanding that the lots would be 2~ acres. Mr. Schneider stated that he did not ask Mr. Cook to buy the land, Mr. Cook came to him. There are a lot of people who have lived in this area for years and Mr. Cook does not even live in the city. He stated that if this is approved, the city is setting a precedent for the future. Mr. Jacobson explained that under the current ordinance, any developer can come in an apply for this. Leonard Mattson, 1502 - 146th Lane N.W. - stated that there was an agreement that this would be 2~ acre lots. Chairman Jacobson asked Mr. Schneider if this was in writing. Mr. Schneider said no. Tom Adler, 1480 Andover Boulevard N.W. - asked what the green space is. Mr. Jacobson explained that when someone plat by density zoning, they lose control over the green space. Mr. Cook, however, has a request to allow him to keep that green space for himself. Gilbert Menkveld -asked if the green space is for public use, who pays the taxes. Mr. Cook said that it becomes tax exempt. Winslow Holasek, 1159 Andover Boulevard N.W. - asked will still be tax exempt if the variance is granted. that he would be paying the taxes. if the property Mr. Cook said no, Mr. Holasek - felt that this is misuse of a Special Use Permit. He could see no unique features about this property. The problem is from the Council. They want the sewer up here. The ordinances were designed to make use of unique situations. If the city is going to do this, the proper way is to rezone the property. He also noted that he owns property on two sides of this and if this plat raises the water level, the city will have to take care of it. There is a dead end road on the plat which is bad for maintenance and emergency vehicles. The Coon Creek Watershed wants $5,000 in ponding fees; however, they might cut that in half if the water is ponded on-site. Chairman Jacobson asked what unique features this property has. Mr. Cook noted the following: 1) the close proximity to the landfill and concern about contiminated water; 2) high water table in the general area; 3) Council has established an area defining the area that they feel would be of special consideration. Tom Adler asked why Mr. Cook wants to plat this property if it's so close to the landfill. Mr. Cook stated that he is not concerned today; the PCA has lifted their ban. It could be a potential concern in the future. , / Commissioner Bosell asked what the lot size would be if this is developed under density zoning. Mr. Cook noted that they would be 39,000 square feet. Regular May 13, Page 8 . \,,-- - I. Plann1ng Comrn1~s10n Meeting 1986 - Minutes , J Ms. Bosell noted that the area of a lot is the same as on a 2~ acre lot. The buildability does not change. Hartfiel's Estates was platted prior to our ordinance being adopted. If sanitary sewer were needed, they would have to petition for it. She also noted that under the PUD, the only thing we're allowing for is to develop it at a density greater than what is allowed in an R-l zone. The setbacks, the size of the home, the garage requirement do not change. Dick Schneider - stated that the purpose of a Special Use Permit is a unlque sltuation. He didn't feel there is anything unique about this property. Jan Balvin, 1419 - 146th Lane N.W. - asked why one acre lots would be better than 2-1/2 acre lots when the water table is so high. Chuck Cook - stated that the ordinance requires 39,000 square feet of buildable area 6~ feet above the water table. He is not changing these the requirements for sewer. He also noted that he lived in a city where they had private wells and septic systems and then city sewer and water came in and he was assessed $10,000. On a 2~ acre lot the assessments would be $30-50,000. The density zoning came about because of a concern that sewer and water would be coming in. His feelings were that Hartfiel's Estates is going to need sewer and water soon. He then stated that he originally came in with 2~ acre lots. / Tom Adler - asked if there was anything in the ordinance describing what unique is. Chuck Cook - stated that it is the opinion of the Council that this property is of a unique nature. Chairman Jacobson noted that unique can be the land conditions. It could be because the Council is concerned about the cost to landowners should sewer and water be required. Leonard Mattson, 1502 - 146th Lane N.W. - felt that there are financial considerations being considered in this request. Mr. Kuklok, 1533 - 146th Lane - stated that the developer has stated he didn't want this, but that he wanted 2~ acre lots. Mr. Jacobson explained to the audience that Mr. Cook originally came in with a 2~ acre plat, but changed it when Council expressed a concern about sewer and w'a ter. Several letters were presented from residents expressing their opposition to the smaller lots. Gilbert Menkveld - stated that many of the small communities ruin the land be putting it into large acreages. He also said that we are not going to keep sewer and water out of that area forever. I MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by pirkl, seconded by Apel that the Andover Planning and Zoning J Regular Planning Commission Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 9 , J Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the Special Use Permit requested by Continental Development for density zoning for the following reasons: 1) the proposed use will not be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 2) it will not cause serious traffic congestion; 3) it is in harmony with the intent and purpose of the Comprehensive Plan and the Zoining Ordinance; 4) it will not depreciate surrounding property values. It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was opposition. The Commission basically finds development is of a unique nature and requires a Special Use Permit for its best use. Approval of the Special Use Permit is subject to the condition that the minimum lot size will be 39,000 square feet. Discussion: Commissioner Bosell stated that a Special Use Permit onlly deviates from the placement of lots in that they will be clustered. This will not affect the front, side or rear yard setbacks. Commissioner Rogers felt that by approving this request, we are circumventing the ordinance and that will vote against approval. Vote on Motion: No - Rogers, Jacobson, Vistad, Jovanovich; Yes - Pirkl, Bosell, Apel. Motion fails on a 4 no, 3 yes vote. Recess 9:50 - Reconvene 10:01 CONTINENTAL DEVELOPMENT VARIANCE Chairman Jacobson explained that Mr. Cook is requesting that the open space be excluded from the requirements, which requires a variance. Mr. Cook stated that this request is at the direction of the City Council and the City Attorney, He felt that dedicating the open space to the city is not appropriate. Mr. Jacboson asked Mr. Cook what he is going to do with the open space. Mr. Cook said that he will retain it for future development. It will be left as is for now. The concerns of tax forfeiture is not any different than any other land like this. Commissioner Bosell noted that the City Council minutes indicate that Mr. Cook would put a restrictive covenant on that open space until it is buildable and asked Mr. Cook if he is willing to do that. Mr. Cook replied yes. Ms. Bosell asked if the land stays as public or semi-public land, what purpose would the city have for it other than an unofficial park. Would the city be able to sell it? Chairman Jacobson stated that when park land is dedicated, it is for parks only. It was noted that the open space would not be used for ponding. / Commissioner Vistad asked if any of the open space would be developed as parkland. Mr. Cook noted that they are dedicating 4~ acres for park w~ich is in excess of the requirements. A t such time as Phase II is Regular Planning COk 3ion Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 10 ~ ) / developed, they will again go to the Park Board. With the open space remaining in private ownership, he woudl sign a covenant that he would not petition for sewer and water. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Pirkl that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of a variance requested by Continental Development to retain the open space in private ownership by the developer for the following reasons: 1) In order for the philoso- phy behind the request for the Special Use Permit to work as has been attempted, this variance should be approved; 2) it will not be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 3) it is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; 4) it is necessary to the reasonable use of the land. If granted, the developer shall agree as part of the protective covenant not to petition for public utilities until pUblic utilities adjoin the property. Approval of the variance is contingent upon the approval of the Special Use Permit. Vote on Motion: Yes - Vistad, Pirkl, Apel; No - Jovanovich, Rogers, Jacobson; Abstain - Bosell. Motion fails. Commissioner Bosell stated that she would like the city to have control over the green space, but the city does not want to have to sell that property or plat it themselves. She also stated that we have never done I this before and she was not sure how it really would work. Without the City Attorney's opinion, she was not sure if we have the right vehicle. This will go to the City Council on June 3, 1986. L.B. CARLSON AMENDED SPECIAL USE PERMIT (COMM. #4-86-4) PUBLIC HEARING Byron Westlund, Woodland Development - explained that they are requesting a change from multiple zoning to R-4, single family residential for Outlots A and B. Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. Commissioner Apel didn't see any problem with the request. Mr. Jacobson asked if the market is not suitable for multiple housing. Mr. Westlund stated that that is true. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the request of L.B. Carlson for an Amended Special Use Permit for the following reasons: 1) the proposed will not be detrimental to the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 2) it will not cause serious traffic congestion; 3) it will not depreciate surrounding property values; 4) it is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan. A public hearing was held and there was no opposition. This change does '- .J Regular Planning Commission Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 11 , ~ ) ~ not alter any of the other conditions in the PUD other than the two outlots. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on June 3rd. WOODLAND TERRACE 2ND ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. # 4-86-5) Chairman Jacobson noted that the 35' setback as required by ordinance is shown as 40'. However, the lots are larger then required. Commissioner Bosell asked if the access would be restricted to the interior streets. It was noted that they will. Ms. Bosell noted that the lot depth on Lot 1 needs a variance. Lots 3, 4 and 5 have double frontage and will require a variance. On the legend, the drainage and utility easements need to be 10' not 5'. Also, rather than 'proposed' it should say minimum side yard and front yard setbacks. MOTION by Jovanovich, seconded by Vistad that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the prelim- inary plat of Woodland Terrace 2nd Addition, described as Outlot A, Woodland Terrace for the following reasons: 1) it is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; 2) it has been reviewed by the City Engineer; 3) it has been reviewed by the County Hight Department. It is also recommended that the following variances be granted: 1) Lot 1, Block 1 ahs 75' of frontage rather than 80'; 2) Lots 3, 4 and 5 require variances because they have double frontage; 3) the setback line will be measured at 40' rather than 35'. Approval is subject to Lots 10, 1, 3, 4 and 5 fronting on Marigold Street and Lots 2 and 6 fronting on Narcissus Street. Ordinance 10, Section 9.06(A)(1) allows the area to be developed to 11,400 square foot lots. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on 6-3-86. WOODLAND TERRACE 3RD ADDITION PRELIMINARY PLAT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. # 4-86-6) Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing. was no one in the audience for this item. It was noted that there MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Pirkl to close the public hearing. Motion carried. It was noted that the drainage and utility easements need to be 10' and that in the legend, the word proposed should be changed to minimum. Commissioner Bosell asked if Lot 7 will front on Orchid Street. It was noted that it will. Also, Lot 1 will front on Orchid Lane. Ms. Bosell also noted that Lot 1 requires a variance for depth. The setback is shown at 40' instead of 35'. Regular May 13, Page 12 \ Planning Comm_~~ion Meeting 1986 - Minutes ~ -~ , MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of Woodland Terrace 3rd Addition, described as Outlot B, Woodland Terrace for the following reasons: 1) it is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan 2) the City Engineer has reviewed the plat; 3) it meets the city ordinances with the following variances: a) Lot 1, Block 1, the lot depth will be 105' rather than 130'; b) the setback is 40' rather than 35'. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on June 3, 1986. Jim Schrantz noted that Orchid Lane should be changed to Orchid Circle. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad to reconsider the motion on Woodland Terrace 2nd Addition. Motion carried. AMENDMENT TO MOTION by Apel, seconded by Bosell to grant a variance for Lot Depth for Lots 1, 2 and 6 on Woodland Terrace 2nd Addition. Motion carried unanimously. ESTHER OLSON SKETCH PLAN (COMM. #3-86-3) Mrs. Olson explained that they have eliminated the north/south street on the plat because by putting it in, they would have to remove too many trees. , eommissioner Apel noted that some variances would be required on frontage. It was the general feeling that the plat was fine and that Mrs. Olson should proceed with the preliminary plat. WOODLAND MEADOWS SKETCH PLAN (COMM. #4-86-7) Lary Carlson, developer - stated that the east side of the property is a sod farm; Partridge Street is a dead end that leads to 35 acres that he owns but does not want to develop; l76th Lane extends into Hawk Ridge East; there is a large stand of trees in the southwest corner that they are going to try to save. The one problem Mr. Carlson saw was the utility easement; the farmers have been using it as a road. He would prefer to keep them out of the subdivision. There is also a pipeline and utility easement in the southwest corner of the property. On the south end of the plat is an NSP power line. Mr. Carlson also noted that there are only a couple of lots that will need fill. Chairman Jacobson noted that he does not like the bubble on the end of 173rd Avenue. He also suggested bringing Partridge Street to the east to 177th Lane. Mr. Schrantz noted that Ward Lake Drive is a dedicated state aid street across this plat. Mr. Jacobson felt that 175th Lane should be shortened and a cul-de-sac constructed. Mr. Carlson stated that they will be going to the Park Board on Thursday and will be aSking to gi ve cash in lieu of land. Regular Planning Co~mlision Meeting May 13, 1986 - Minutes Page 13 , / MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Jovanovich to adjourn. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 11:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, &'1$ Vicki Volk, Commission Secretary i