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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING- AGENDA
JUNE 10, 1986
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Call to order - 7:30 P.M.
2.
Approval of Minutes
3. Comm. #6-86-1
Gerald Lazarz Variance
4. Comma #12-85-5
Oak Bluff Preliminary Plat Public
Hearing
5. Comma #6-86-2
Stephen Nemeth Rezoning Public Hearing
6. Comma #6-86-3
Stephen Nemeth Lot Split Public Hearing
7. Comma #5-86-6
Rezoning Public Hearing (former Conroy
property)
8. Comma #3-86-5
Ordinance 8, Section 8.07, Cont.
9.
Ordinance Discussion
10. Adjournment
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CITY of ANDOVER
REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-JUNE 10, 1986
MINUTES
The regularly scheduled Andover Planning and Zoning Commission meeting was called to
order by Chairman Jacobson at 7:30 P.M., Tuesday, June 10, 1986 at the Andover City
Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard NW, Andover, MN.
COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
COMMISSIONERS ABSENT:
ALSO PRESENT:
Apel, Bosell, Pirkl, Rogers, Jovanovich
Vis tad
Gerald Lazarz; Chuck Cook; Stephen Nemeth; City Engineer,
Jim Schrantz; others
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MAY 13, 1986/MAY 27, 1986
MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Rogers to approve the minutes of May 13, 1986 and the
minutes of May 27, 1986 as written. Motion carried.
GERALD LAZARZ VARANCE (COMM. #6-86-1)
Chairman Jacobson explained that Mr. Lazarz is requesting to move his lot lines.
The City Attorney has said that this is fine and the Mayor said that if the Planning
Commission acts on this tonight, it can go to the Council next Tuesday.
Commissioner Bosell stated that according to the half seeton maps, the lot to the
east is only 330 feet wide.
Mr. Lazarz noted that he owns three lots: one is 7 acres, one is 2.8 acres and the
other is 5 acres. He stated that he did not indicate the 5 acre lot on this applicaton.
Ms. Bosell asked when these became lots of record. Mr. Lazarz stated that he did not
know.
MOTION by Apel, seconded by Pirkl that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval of a variance requested by Gerald A. Lazarz
to move a property line on PIN 17 32 24 34 0003 two hundred feet to the west which
will result in a parcel with 300 feet of frontage and 660 feet in depth and PIN'
17 32 24 34 0002 will be 398 feet wide by 660 feet deep pursuant to Ordinance 10,
Section 4.14.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on June 17, 1986.
STEPHEN NEMETH REZONING (COMM. #6-86-2)
Stephen Nemeth, 13449 Jonquil Street N.W. - explained that he would like to rezone this
property so that they can be developed into 4 residential lots.
Commissioner Bosell asked if any of these two parcels are property that is the sitet
of the old Hockey Inn. Mr. Nemeth replied that they are not.
Ms. Bosell felt that this would be compatible with the surrounding district and didn't
anticipate any traffic congestion.
Commissioner Rogers also felt that this is the proper zoning for that area.
Regular Planning Commissi r.' l1eeting
June 10, 1986 - Minutes \ /
Page 2
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(Nemeth Rezoning, Cont.)
At this time, Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Pirkl to close the public hearing. Motion carried.
MOTION by Apel, seconded by Pirkl that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning requested by Stephen Nemeth
to rezone the property known as PINs 33 32 24 43 0012 and 33 32 24 43 0020 from
Neighborhood Business to R-4, single family residential for the following reasons:
1) It will not adversely affect surrounding property values; 2) it will not have an
adverse affect on the health, safety or general welfare of the community; 3) it compli-
ments the Comprehensive Plan. It should be noted that a public hearing was held ad
there was no opposition. Approval is pursuant to Ordinance 8G, Section 5.02.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on July 1, 1986.
STEPHEN NEMETH LOT SPLIT (COMM. #6-86-3)
Chairman Jacobson explained that Mr. Nemeth wishes to split his property into two
parcels which will be 90' x 135' and 75' x 135'.
Commissioner Bosell stated that a variance will be required for lot width and area for
the lot with 75 feet of frontage.
Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing.
MOTION by Bosell seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried.
It was noted that the lots are served by sanitary sewer but there is only one sewer
stub.
Mr. Jacobson asked if park dedication fees had ever been paid on this property. Mr.
Nemeth didn't know if they had. Mr. Jacobson explained that if they have not, the
requirement is $100.00 for each newly created lot.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the City Council approval of a lot split requested by Stephen Nemeth for
the property described as PIN 33 32 24 43 0012 for the following reasons: 1) It will
not have an adverse affect on adjacent properties; 2) it is the most reasonable use of
the land.
The smaller of the two lots will require a variance for frontage and area (75' of
frontage instead of 80'; lot area will be 10,125 square feet instead of 11,400 sf.).
Approval of the lot split is subject to the payment of park dedication fees and the
lots all fronting on interior streets.
It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was no opposition.
Motion carried unanimously.
This will go to the City Council on July 1, 1986.
Chairman Jacobson explained that Mr. Nemeth is also requesting a second lot split
for property on l33rd Lane. These lots will be bigger and meet the requirements.
At this time Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing.
Regular Planning Commiss:l.,-", .1eeting
June 10, 1986 - Minutes
Page 3
(Nemeth Lot Split, Cont.)
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; MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jovanovich to close the public hearing. Motion
carried unanimously.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission
recommend to the City council approval of a lot split requested by Stephen Nemeth
for the property described as PIN 33 32 24 43 0020 pursuant to Ordinance 40B and 8T
for the following reasons: 1) it will not have an adverse affect on adjacent properties;
2) it is the most reasonable use of the land.
It should be noted that a public hearing was held and there was no opposition.
Approval of the lot is subject to the payment of park dedication fees, and the lots all
fronting on interior streets.
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The existing garage on the property will be removed upon completion of building.
Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the City Council on July 1, 1986.
OAK BLUFF PRELIMINARY PLAT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #12-85-5)
Chairman Jacobson explained that the City Council approved the Special Use Permit for
density zoning, but not the variance for the open space.
Chuck Cook, developer - noted that the plat explaines the layout quite well. He also
noted that they are taking advantage of the nicer parts of the property.
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Mr. Schrantz noted that the property is zoned R-l and will be developed under density
zoning. Anoka County Highway Department prefers two ultimate accesses. Mr. Schrantz
also stated that he would like to see an overlay showing the second phase.
Chairman Jacobson noted that there is a drainage easement on Outlot B, which is the
green space. He asked how Mr. Cook can put water on that property if it is semi-public.
Mr. Cook explained that he will be the fee owner and the city will be leasing it.
Mr. Schrantz didn't know how the ponds will fit into the overlay of the plat.
Mr. Cook noted that there may be a storm sewer system when the 2nd phase is done. If
not, there will be water retention areas. Mr. Schrantz felt that the storm sewer issue
should be resolved.
At this time Chairman Jacobson opened the public hearing.
Jana Balvin, 1419 - l46th Lane N.W. - asked where the excess water will go as they
already have standing water on their property.
Mr. Jacobson noted that the water will go into the ponds. He asked if Mr. Schrantz
felt the ponds will work. Mr. Schrantz stated that he has a problem with the location
of the ponds. He asked that the storm sewer system be looked at.
Mr. Jacobson asked Mr. Cook to obtain the information that Mr. Schrantz needs.
Mr. Schrantz noted that the water table in Phase II is 2 to 5 feet.
Commissioner Bosell asked how much of the water goes into Ditch 57. Mr. Schrantz didn't
know if any of the water moves into that ditch.
Regular Planning Commissi'o" d~eting
June 10, 1986 - Minutes
Page 4
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(Oak Bluff, Cont.)
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Mr. Jacobson asked if the drainage from Block 2 will all go to the west onto Xeon Street.
Mr. Cook noted that it will.
Mr. Jacobson suggested that Mr. Schrantz, Mr. Cook and someone from TKDA look at the
storm drainage to see how it should be handled.
Dick Schneider - asked if the streets will have concrete curb and gutter.
Bosell noted that curb and gutter are only used when there are utilities.
streets will be blacktopped.
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Mr. Schrantz felt that the 24 foot roadway like Meadowood has would work here. He
also would like to see the street go all the way to Xeon Street. He also stated that
we should decide whether Xeon is a city street; it's a private driveway now. He noted
that we are in the process of reclassifying our streets.
Mr. Jacobson felt that it should be up to the Council as to what should be done with
Xeon Street as it is outside of the plat.
David Schneider - stated that his property adjoins the 100' lot. He suggested putting
the green space to the east side and develop that part which is now shown as green space.
Mr. Jacobson asked if the Commission wants to do anything else with the cul-de-sac
other than bringing it to the property line.
Ms. Bosell asked if the Schneider property could be developed if the cul-de-sac is
extended to Xeon Street. Mr. Schrantz noted that that property is high and dry.
Mr. Schrantz also noted that we should adjust some of the minimum floor elevations on
the plat.
Mr. Jacobson asked what the purpose of the out lots is. Mr. Cook stated that he labeled
the property as outlots because they might not be developed for 20 years.
Mr. Schrantz stated that he streets will be 24' with a berm and when sewer and water
come in, they will go to 32 feet.
Chairman Jacobson noted the following concerns: water table; buildability and drainage.
Winslow Holasek - noted that the original plat showed the street without a stub and
asked why that had been changed. Mr. Jacobson stated that it's reasonable planning to
extend it out to Xeon Street.
Mr. Schrantz asked Mr. Holasek if Xeon wIll remain a driveway or if it will be a city
street. Mr. Holasek stated that it will function as a driveway like it has for the last
70 years. Mr. Schrantz suggested that we vacate that street.
David Schneider felt that if the plat design is creating problems then Mr. Cook should
redesign it.
Chairman Jacobson recommended that Mr. Cook come back to the next meeting with the
items requested by Mr. Schrantz, including an overlay.
MOTION by Apel, seconded by Pirkl to continue this item to the next meeting. Motion
carried.
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Regular Planning Commission Meeting
June 10, 1986 - Minutes
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Recess 9:30 P.M. - Reconvene 9:40 P.M.
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REZONING PUBLIC HEARING (FORMER CONROY PROPERTY) (COMM. #5-86-6)
Commissioner Bosell noted that there is talk of realigining
it would cut through this property. She asked if we want to
sides of Crooked Lake Boulevard if it is realigned.
Crooked Lake Boulevard and
have residential on both
Councilman Orttel noted that the city owns the former Conroy property and that Crooked
Lake Boulevard wil be done next year.
Discussion centered on whether this property should be rezoned because of Crooked Lake
Boulevard with it being noted that the property where the Speedy Market is located only
has one of four NB parcels being used for Neighborhood Business. It was also noted that
it might not be good to have two Neighborhood Business properties that close together.
MOTION by Bosell, seconded by Pirkl to continue this item to the next meeting. Motion
carried.
ORDINANCE 8, SECTION 8.07, CONT.
This item will be continued to the next meeting.
The item regarding helicopters will be on the agenda for July 8, 1986.
MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Apel that the Economic Development Commission develop a
community profile as they are better able to do so than the Planning Commission.
Motion carried.
MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Apel to adjourn. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 9:55 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Vicki Volk
Commission Secretary