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HomeMy WebLinkAboutJuly 2, 1986 ", \J ,-) '----./ ': ') '-' (J l~ CITY of ANDOVER SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-AGENDA JULY 2, 1986 Call to order - 7:30 P.M. 1. Comm. #4-86-7 Woodland Meadows Preliminary Plat Public Hearing 2. Adjournment lJ ~J ~) CITY of ANDOVER SPECIAL PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING-MINUTES JULY 2, 1986 A Special meeting of the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission was called to order by Chairman Jacobson at 7:28 P.M., Wednesday, July 2, 1986 at the Andover City Hall, 1685 Crosstown Boulevard N.W., Andover, MN. Commissioners Present: Bosell, Jovanovich, Rogers, Pirkl, Vistad, Apel (Arrived at 7:50 P.M.) None John Peterson, Good Value Homes; Lawrence Carlson, Woodland Development; James Schrantz, City Engineer; others Commissioners Absent: Also Present: GOOD VALUE HOMES John Peterson asked if they could take four lots out of Hidden Creek 3rd Addition to make the other lots larger and to save some trees. The lots that will be taken out are in Block 4 and Block 6. -j '-~ MOTION by Pirkl, seconded by Jovanovich that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Good Value Homes to delete 2 lots in Block 4 and 2 lots in Block 6, Hidden Creek 3rd Addition and reconfigure the remaining lots pursuant to the drawing received July 2, 1986. Motion carried. WOODLAND MEADOWS PRELIMINARY PLAT PUBLIC HEARING (COMM. #4-86-7) Mr. Schrantz stated that the sketch plan has been before the City Council and the Planning Commission. The Council was interested in seeing an east/west street. 174th was suggested for the east/west street and also the route along the power line. Mr. Schrantz felt that the Council might still want that street. He also noted that there are some elevations on the ponds, most of which are outside of the easements. The finsihed contours are not shown. We need to have 39,000 square feet at 895.5, 6~' above the mottled water table. The lowest floor elevation is not shown; however, the pad elevation is. The fill area on Lot 9, Block 6 is not shaded. Mr. Schrantz noted that there should not be a large impact on traffic. The plat is in School District #11 and also School District #15. In reading the Comprehensive Plan, this area should not have been developed for 10 years. The 24' urban street section should be satisfactory. Block 5 is longer than the 1320' maximum. Commissioner Pirkl stated that her only concern is the east/west street. C) Commissioner Vistad noted that the east/west street was discussed at a previous meeting and it was decided that we would not require it. He also stated that the developer should make sure he has 300 feet of frontage on Lot 8, Block 3. Special Planningco~ission Meeting July 2, 1986 Page 2 ~ ~ Mr. Schrantz noted that the Council has determined that on a cul-de- sac, it's difficult to get 300' of frontage but as long as they're not trying to get an extra lot in, less than 300' is OK. Commissioner Bosell noted Avenue and Swallow Street to be filed at City Hall. that the type of surface on 174th Lane, 176th are not shown. Restrictive covenants need She asked if Mr. Carlson is the fee owner. Mr. Carlson replied that he is not the fee owner. Ms. Bosell noted that we need to have a letter of consent from the fee owner. She also noted that some lots have dimensions that are not appropriate. Lot 8, Block 3 and Lot 6, Block 3 may not meet the 300' requirement at the setback line. She asked if Lot 22, Block 7 is going to have 39,000 square feet of buildable area because of the pipeline easement. Mr. Carlson noted that you can put the septic system into the easement. There is enough room on the lot for a house. Ms. Bosell noted that the lots on Raven Circle have the setback at 85 feet. She asked if the plat needs to go before the watershed. Mr. Schrantz stated that this is in the Rum River Water Management District and they don't have a review process as yet. Chairman Jacobson stated that Lot 15, Block 7 will need a variance because of the power line easement. There is only 100' of frontage on the street. He also noted that there are about 5 different street names on the same street which makes it quite confusing. He suggested giving that street a unique name. He asked if the Park Board only wants the small park as shown on the plat. Mr. Carlson stated that was the only land they requested. Mr. Jacobson noted that some of the drainage and utility easements are square and asked if they should follow the contour lines. Mr. Schrantz noted that they could be square. At this time Chairman Jacobson opened the public heairng. Sharon Robinson, 17115 Verdin Street N.W. - asked for a guaranty that they would not get sewer and water because of this plat. Chairman Jacobson stated that the reason for 2~ acre lots is because those areas are not proposed to get sewer and water. Ms. Robinson questioned the statement that this was not supposed to be developed for 10 years. Mr. Jacobson explained that that is what the Comprehensive Plan says. However, this is not an inappropriate use of the land. Ms. Robinson asked if the line of pine trees will be left. Mr. Schrantz stated that there should be no reason to cut down the trees. Mr. Carlson also stated that they certainly don't want to cut down the trees. \ Special Planning \ _~ission Meeting July 2, 1986 - Minutes Page 3 ) / Ms. Robinson stated that there are many people who have been flooded this year and they are concerned that this water drain properly. Mr. Jacobson noted that the Commission will be looking at the drainage and ponding so it does not flood. Mr. Schrantz explained that since 1981 we have had an above average rainfall. Our average rainfall is 28" and last year we had 41". Dick Slayton, 17139 Verdin Street N.W. - noted that he is confused about the legal description. Chairman Jacobson explained that the legal goes to the center of Verdin Street which is a normal ~vay of describing property. Verlyn Robinson, 17115 Verdin Street N.W. - stated that his only concern is the three letters that were sent out regarding the public hearing. Mr. Jacobson stated that the second letter that went out had an incorrect date in it, but everything was done properly. Pete Noll, 17506 Verdin Street N.W. - stated that most of the accesses will be corning off Verdin Street and there are already enough people speeding on that street. Mr. Jacobson noted that most times when we get a plat in, there are concerns about the traffic. If it becomes a problem, we can request that a deputy run radar on the street. Speeding is something we can- not address on a plat. \ / Mr. Noll asked if this development will raise the water table in this area. Mr. Schrantz didn't know why it would. He noted that at one time, the water was 2 to 3 feet higher than it is now. Mr. Jacobson felt that this plat should corne back at the next meeting with the changes on it. Sylvia Britton stated that this plat is on the July 15th Council agenda and they would like to keep that schedule. MOTION by Vistad, seconded by Rogers to close the public hearing. Motion carried. MOTION by Apel, seconded by Vistad that the Andover Planning and Zoning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat of Woodland Meadows legally described as the North Half of the northwest quarter of Section 10, Township 32, Range 24, and the Southwest Quarter of Section 3, Township 32, Range 24. Sub- ject to County Road No. 59 over the west 33.00 feet thereof. Subject to easements of record, if any' for the following reasons: 1) A public hearing was held. There were some concerns expressed but there was no real opposition; 2) The plat is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan; 3) The plat has been reviewed by the City Engineer. His comments have been made available to the developer; 4) The Park Board recommendation has been received; 5) The plat meets the ordinances with the following variances: a) Lot 8, Block 3 and Lot 6, Block 3 for definition of lot front; b) Lot 6, Block 7 and Lot 18, Block 6 for definition of lot front; c) Lot 15, Block 7 and Lot 12, Block 6 as the setback is measured at greater than 40 feet; d) Block 5 for block length. Approval is contingent upon the following being , Special Planning ~ull~ission Meeting July 2, 1986 - Minutes Page 4 corrected: a) Indicate type of surface of Swallow Street, 174th and 176th; b) Perc tests need to be provided; c) A consent letter from the fee owner needs to be provided. It should be noted that a letter has been received from the Anoka County Highway Department. It should also be noted that restrictive covenants need to be provided to City Hall if there are any. Motion carried unanimously. This will go to the Planning Commission for review on July 8, 1986 and to the City Council on July 15, 1986. MOTION by Rogers, seconded by Jovanovich to adjourn. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 8:40 P.M. Respectfully submitted, b'& Vicki Volk Planning Commission Secretary ;